Your opinions regarding Afghan Taliban policy vis-a-vis TTP.

[Patriot forever]

Meanwhile TTP ( Mohmand)/ISKP is at a constant war with Afghan Taliban. They carry out an attack almost everyday.

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[Winchester]

"b" and "c" are more likely. It is getting frustrating seeing fellow countrymen hail TTA advances in Afghanistan. I do not want them to face embarrassment when they see no letup to terrorism in Pakistan and maybe even its amplification by the operational flexibility TTP would be afforded by the TTA (their ideological brethren).

I think we are in for another round of terrorism unfortunately. Plenty of people in Pakistan who will take the wrong inspiration from this Taliban victory. There is no understanding that the Afghan society is so messed up that your average street Mullah is miles better than there current bachay baaz leaders.

@waz The forum has a huge responsibilty. Making sure that this Afghan Taliban victory in a tribal conflict is not been used by Khwaraj in Pakistan to spread fitna here. Already one account is busy on each thread talking about a global takeover.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Savages, not suited for this century but the best option Pak had I guess

And won't be able to control ETEM,TTP,bla etc

 

[Goritoes]

The truth behind TTP and Afghan Taliban alliance will come out sooner or later, if they join forces than we will see massive bloodshed in Pakistan, but if Taliban somehow still respect Pakistan, they will root out TTP who has attacked Markets, Masjids, Children, women and elderly, even a distorted version of Islam does not allow attacks in Markets, Masajids, kids and women. TTP and ISIS are scum and animals, they should be treated as such, if they manage to made an alliance with AT than they will get safe heaven and logistical support, and the worse part will be that almost 40% of Pakistan will become facilitators of such attacks in Pakistan, as we have a massive public who supports Afghan Taliban.

 

[Pak Nationalist]

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I think we are in for another round of terrorism unfortunately. Plenty of people in Pakistan who will take the wrong inspiration from this Taliban victory. There is no understanding that the Afghan society is so messed up that your average street Mullah is miles better than there current bachay baaz leaders.

@waz The forum has a huge responsibilty. Making sure that this Afghan Taliban victory in a tribal conflict is not been used by Khwaraj in Pakistan to spread fitna here. Already one account is busy on each thread talking about a global takeover.

I was pointing to something else. Of course, Jihadists who want to overthrow the state and enforce their will on the 220 million Pakistanis would take inspiration from the Tali takeover of Afghanistan, but that is an indirect effect. I am more concerned about the possibility of TTA backing TTP more than ever before to wage its war in tribal districts. Many in Pakistan do not understand the linkages between TTP and TTA. They consider the complete victory of TTA, the victory of Pakistan believing the Western border would now be pacified. I take an exception to that. We must hold our horses, be patient and observe the TTA behavior. TTP is already back in force in tribal districts despite the farce of fencing. It is inflicting casualties on SFs. However, that is a domestic problem now that has metastasized courtesy of our pathetic intelligence effort and local law enforcement capacity. Cross-border raids would be massive red flags which would demonstrate that TTA is choosing to look the other way as TTP operates from Afghan land. Also, if TTP was able to move into Pakistan through the fenced area, its operatives could move back to Afghanistan through it as well. If that begins happening routinely, that would be another red flag pointing to continued TTA sanctuaries for the TTP.

 

[waz]

Three of the TTP higher ups are already dead in Afghanistan through assassinations in the last five days. Either the Taliban have turned a blind eye to ISI hit teams or they are doing it themselves.
On their social media feeds they have told their men to leave Afghanistan as soon as possible, why is that?
Their patrons were parts of the ANA and the Afghan government.

 

[Goritoes]

Three of the TTP higher ups are already dead in Afghanistan through assassinations in the last five days. Either the Taliban have turned a blind eye to ISI hit teams or they are doing it themselves.
On their social media feeds they have told their men to leave Afghanistan as soon as possible, why is that?
Their patrons were parts of the ANA and the Afghan government.

Really?

 

[Vapour]

I would say keep the faith in the Pakistan armed forces and intel, that they will ensure a repeat of the 2001-2016 era of mass attacks inside Pakistan won't happen again.

More than focusing on AFG, the focus should be on liquidating internal sleeper cells, traitors who openly spout venom and are actively indoctrinating the youth among the Pasthun population to pick up arms against the state.

 

[Patriot forever]

The truth behind TTP and Afghan Taliban alliance will come out sooner or later, if they join forces than we will see massive bloodshed in Pakistan, but if Taliban somehow still respect Pakistan, they will root out TTP who has attacked Markets, Masjids, Children, women and elderly, even a distorted version of Islam does not allow attacks in Markets, Masajids, kids and women. TTP and ISIS are scum and animals, they should be treated as such, if they manage to made an alliance with AT than they will get safe heaven and logistical support, and the worse part will be that almost 40% of Pakistan will become facilitators of such attacks in Pakistan, as we have a massive public who supports Afghan Taliban.

Current TTP leadership faction is more in alliance with ISKP. All we have to do is coordinate our operarion with IEA against ISKP. It will break TTP back in Pakistan.

Anyways apart from just this topic this shift in Afghanistan has ooened an entire era for Pakistan in terms of trade and connectivity. Besides BLA was more potent as of recent times and now its wings has been clipped with Tadin gone ( just need to neutralize Achakzai).

 

[waz]

Really?

Yes two were gunned down in the streets, another unknown method of kill.
It just seems odd that if the IEA supports them why are they being killed so readily?

It's not the first time either;

The fatal shooting of two men in the heart of the Afghan capital Kabul - a city unfortunately used to violence - went almost unnoticed.

One of the dead men was Sheikh Khalid Haqqani, who held a key position in the Pakistani Taliban's leadership council, and formerly served as the group's deputy leader.

The second man was Qari Saif Younis, a military commander within the group. In a statement on Thursday, the Pakistani Taliban confirmed the men's identities and their deaths but gave few other details.

Kabul Taliban: Spies, militants and a mysterious assassination

Two men were shot dead in the Afghan capital, Kabul. But who were they, and why were they there?

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Patriot forever]

Three of the TTP higher ups are already dead in Afghanistan through assassinations in the last five days. Either the Taliban have turned a blind eye to ISI hit teams or they are doing it themselves.
On their social media feeds they have told their men to leave Afghanistan as soon as possible, why is that?
Their patrons were parts of the ANA and the Afghan government.

This is what i am telling them, the current TTP is dominated by ISKP (its basically ISKP as alot of their fighters from other factions joined ISKP/TTP Mohmand). It even changed its flag to ISIS.

The moment AT go after ISKP fully, TTP will be dealth a severe blow.

We need to clear them on Pakistan side of border aswell.

 

[waz]

This is what i am telling them, the current TTP is dominated by ISKP (its basically ISKP as alot of their fighters from other factions joined ISKP/TTP Mohmand). It even changed its flag to ISIS.

The moment AT go after ISKP fully, TTP will be dealth a severe blow.

We need to clear them on Pakistan side of border aswell.

True the TTP has direct links with ISIS in Afghanistan. Why then did the IEA then wipe out the allies of the Pakistani TTP? It make no sense other than the TTP speaks a great deal of hot air.
Let's be honest, if the IEA really wanted to help the TTP they could cause a massive amount of damage in Pakistan and the state would be in peril.

 

[Goritoes]

Yes two were gunned down in the streets, another unknown method of kill.
It just seems odd that if the IEA supports them why are they being killed so readily?

It's not the first time either;

The fatal shooting of two men in the heart of the Afghan capital Kabul - a city unfortunately used to violence - went almost unnoticed.

One of the dead men was Sheikh Khalid Haqqani, who held a key position in the Pakistani Taliban's leadership council, and formerly served as the group's deputy leader.

The second man was Qari Saif Younis, a military commander within the group. In a statement on Thursday, the Pakistani Taliban confirmed the men's identities and their deaths but gave few other details.

Kabul Taliban: Spies, militants and a mysterious assassination

Two men were shot dead in the Afghan capital, Kabul. But who were they, and why were they there?

www.bbc.co.uk

If AT still have the same respect for some of the Pakistani clerics than we can use that to break a deal and declare TTP activities unislamic, and coordinate with AT to attack them in the provinces they are holding, similar thing can be done to BLA as they are also operating from Afghanistan and their recent attacks on workers can easily be used as their activities as not just anti Pakistan but Anti Islam.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

What line of action do you expect Afghan Taliban to take againt TTP?

a) Go hard against TTP and ensure they are not able to operate against Pakistan.

b) Use TTP as a leverage against Pakistan. Give and take policy to extract maximum concessions from Pakistan

c) Down the line, join TTP as their ideological brethren to implement their version of Sharia across the border.

I think Afghan Taliban will have their hands full at the moment and will be dealing with Northern Alliance militias that other countries will support in a new civil war.
once that is dealt with then maybe Afghan Taliban will go after Daesh or TTP but yes they are ideological brothers and there is a risk they might actually find a common ground and join together,
Pakistan can prevent it though active and effective diplomacy.

True the TTP has direct links with ISIS in Afghanistan. Why then did the IEA then wipe out the allies of the Pakistani TTP? It make no sense other than the TTP speaks a great deal of hot air.
Let's be honest, if the IEA really wanted to help the TTP they could cause a massive amount of damage in Pakistan and the state would be in peril.

to be honest IEA has looked the other way as well and didnt actively sought the TTP. now that they are going to be major stake holders of future Afghan government it is only fair that Pakistan expects them to do something about TTP and BLA camps and facilitate Pakistan in seeking and eliminating its leadership.

 

[Indos]

Yes two were gunned down in the streets, another unknown method of kill.
It just seems odd that if the IEA supports them why are they being killed so readily?

It's not the first time either;

The fatal shooting of two men in the heart of the Afghan capital Kabul - a city unfortunately used to violence - went almost unnoticed.

One of the dead men was Sheikh Khalid Haqqani, who held a key position in the Pakistani Taliban's leadership council, and formerly served as the group's deputy leader.

The second man was Qari Saif Younis, a military commander within the group. In a statement on Thursday, the Pakistani Taliban confirmed the men's identities and their deaths but gave few other details.

Kabul Taliban: Spies, militants and a mysterious assassination

Two men were shot dead in the Afghan capital, Kabul. But who were they, and why were they there?

www.bbc.co.uk

That was in Kabul, Afghan gov strong hold before current take over. It could be taken by Afghan Army and that TTP men could probably join Afghan Taliban and attempt to make attack on Kabul