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will the Jinnah-Class ships radar be the Smart S MK2 or a Chinese one ?
SMART-S Mk2 3D Search Radar,
Any news about its Air Defence Missiles and Anti Submarine systems?Pakistan – PN MILGEM Combat Systems Contract
Issue 97
Within the scope of the Pakistan MILGEM Project (PN MILGEM), which is the biggest export ever achieved by the Turkish defence industry in a single batch and includes the construction of 4 corvettes, the Pakistan MILGEM (PN MILGEM) Combat Systems Contract was signed between ASFAT, Havelsan and Aselsan. During the contract signing ceremony for the procurement and integration of combat systems, National Defence Minister Hulusi AKAR, Havelsan Chairman of the Board Prof. Hacı Ali MANTAR, Havelsan General Manager Ahmet Hamdi ATALAY, Aselsan Chairman of the Board and CEO Haluk GÖRGÜN were present.
ASFAT CEO Esad AKGÜN, the main contractor of the project, said in his speech at the ceremony that the project is important to reveal that Turkish engineers performed the design and production within international standards and even beyond and share these capabilities generously with their Pakistani brothers. Emphasizing that exports are the only solution for the sustainability and dynamism of the defence industry, AKGÜN said exports are not just an option for the defence industry, they are a necessity. Esad AKGÜN pointed out that the Pakistan Corvette Project will be completed with the principle of the lowest cost, highest quality and shortest time period and added that Pakistan will gain new capabilities in design and shipbuilding when the project is completed.
Minister of National Defence Hulusi AKAR expressed his gratitude to all employees who contributed to the project, while Havelsan General Manager Ahmet Hamdi ATALAY placed emphasis on the ADVENT Combat Management System in his speech and said: “We are proud that the next generation Network Enabled Data Integrated Combat Management System (ADVENT), jointly developed by Havelsan and the Turkish Navy and which is owned by only a few countries in the world, will be used on the ships of friendly and our brother country Pakistan”. Underlining that this system developed by nearly 6 million lines of code is being used for the first time on Turkey’s 4th MİLGEM ship, he said they aim to gain ADVENT also to other platforms in the inventory. ATALAY said that they will assume the task of integrating all weapons and sensors in the project as well. Havelsan, the Main Integrator of the project's Combat System, will also supply the ADVENT Combat Management System, Ship Data Distribution System and Ship Information System of the Pakistani Ships.
Aselsan CEO Haluk GÖRGÜN said the Electronic Warfare System, Fire Control Radar, Laser Warning System, Torpedo Countermeasure System, 3D Search Radar, Navigation and LPI Radar, Navigation Support Systems, Inertial Navigation System, Combat Systems, 76 mm Gun Fire Control System and 25 mm Stabilized Gun System will be provided by Aselsan.
Pakistan – PN MILGEM Combat Systems Contract | defenceturkey.com
don't worry. "Export-oriented arms" don't need to consider these problem. Turkey warships free to use Chinese missiles.The Search Radar is from Thales and Aselsan and the weapons LY 80 and C 802 are Chineese. Have Chineese allowed the integeration of their weapons with Turkish Radar?
Moreover, there is a size difference between Harbah and C 802 means there will alterations when Harbah will be fitted. Does'nt it shows that harbah is not operational as of now otherwise there is no need of first fitting it with C 802 and then Harbah
Dont u think we need 4 destroyers now with each accompanying 1 PN Battalion. We need long range Air defence systems like that of HQ 9 which PLAN have on its destroyers. The long range air defence offer better protection against likes of Supersonic AshM like Brahmos
Hold on a minute. These two are entirely different cetagory of ships meant to play entirely different roles. One is a corvette, other is frigate.totally supplementery purchase
nothing much in it after yarmouk induction seems like navy had to please someone
Agreed. Moreover, because the J-Class is coming with IP transfer (with the 4th ship being designed in Pakistan), this ship will also be the basis of next-generation PN frigates. But those contracts will go to NRDI, KSEW, Gwadar, etc.Hold on a minute. These two are entirely different cetagory of ships meant to play entirely different roles. One is a corvette, other is frigate.
Y-class is meant to deploy in North Arabia Sea while J-class work exists in South Arabian Sea.
In over simple comparison: 1 J-class, in terms of multidimensional combat capability, is equivalent to 3 Y-class vessels (if each Y-class is modeled specifically for surface, subsurface and air defense missions).
And this explains why J-class is uniquely important for PN despite purchasing Type-54AP frigates.Moreover, because the J-Class is coming with IP transfer (with the 4th ship being designed in Pakistan), this ship will also be the basis of next-generation PN frigates. But those contracts will go to NRDI, KSEW, Gwadar, etc.
Not aware of other vendors, but PN is acquiring Y-class (as far as I know) in different configurations. PNS Yarmook is more focussed towards Anti-Ship role while PNS Tabook will be configured differently (probably will house Torpedo tubes in place of ASM and SHORADS in place of CIWS).That said, there have been reports of the PN working with other vendors on corvettes and large patrol vessels (the latter with Swiftships). So, it'll be interesting to see if they buyout design rights for a smaller, low-cost ship too
Yep, there's the option for 2 additional corvettes, but Swiftships is also working on a FPC/LPC in Pakistan.And this explains why J-class is uniquely important for PN despite purchasing Type-54AP frigates.
Not aware of other vendors, but PN is acquiring Y-class (as far as I know) in different configurations. PNS Yarmook is more focussed towards Anti-Ship role while PNS Tabook will be configured differently (probably will house Torpedo tubes in place of ASM and SHORADS in place of CIWS).
And let's not forget, option for two more vessels is there too.
Swiftships is also working on a FPC/LPC in Pakistan.
Mr Shah confirmed the company was also in Pakistan to build a 45m steel FPV at the Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works as part of a joint venture.
They were, but Swiftships wants to work with the PN in other ways, besides ships. If things go according to plan, I think we could see an original Pakistani corvette with localized steel hull and aluminium superstructure supply. And Project Azm's industry inputs take off, then we may be able to factor in composite production too.,
I thought Swiftship and Daman shipyard were in competition for same order of PN. It's good thing if Swiftclass are in equation.
dont hold on my account buddyHold on a minute. These two are entirely different cetagory of ships meant to play entirely different roles. One is a corvette, other is frigate.
Y-class is meant to deploy in North Arabia Sea while J-class work exists in South Arabian Sea.
In over simple comparison: 1 J-class, in terms of multidimensional combat capability, is equivalent to 3 Y-class vessels (if each Y-class is modeled specifically for surface, subsurface and air defense missions).
The three Pakistan Navy Milgems are J-class frigates. Fourth Ship will be even different. We are not buying the Milgem corvettes in configuration which are operational in Turkish Navy.dont hold on my account buddy
i m not talking about jinnah class which we will see in 2028
m talking about milgem which is a corvette with a price of frigate
Yeah Air Force and Navy are slowly moving towards enhanced indigenization and development of domestically tailored weapon systems and support equipment, but our industrial and economic capability is very limited. We have barely managed to keep Jf17 project on track and are still struggling to evolve it into a project of our expectations. All because the economic support is limited. As long as the economic support is limited, all our initiatives of local defense production will end up in jeopardy.@Tipu7, seriously think about it, we're sitting on an amazing competitive edge, we just don't realize it nor are we leveraging it. Basically, because we've been sanctioned, and because we are low on fiscal flexibility, our forces must think outside of the box, and create solutions that deliver national security interests at an unrealistically low cost, except we made it a reality.
Combine the J-Class' design expertise with localized hull and superstructure manufacturing, original/domestic subsystem design (with mixed foreign and local inputs), and local weapons development (again with mixed foreign and COTS inputs), you can get a multirole corvette.
Now combine that with JF-17, MALE UAV, LRMPA, a PAC turboprop that can double as a special mission aircraft (AEW&C, MPA, ISTAR, etc), a mini-SSK/SWAT, etc. It's a turnkey defence package. We'll just need a helicopter program (utility, special mission and attack), and we're all good to go.