Pakistan Air Force | News & Discussions.

[niaz]

Key is economy indeed. It is okay to wish that we should have this or that but how are we going to pay for the hardware?

Based on 2015 data as given in the Military Balance 2016; Pakistan’s GDP as of 2015 was Rs 27.4 trillion. Defence budget for 2015 being $7.456-billion is 2.75% of GDP. Indian GDP being $2.18- trillion. Defence expenditure of $48-billion is only 2.2% of the Indian GDP.

Among the super powers, Chinese GDP being $11.4-trilion, defence budget of $146-billion represents a mere 1.28%. USA Defence budget of $598-bilion represents 3.3% of GDP and Russia at $ 516-billion spends 4.18%.

In the Middle East Saudi Arabia’s defence expenditure of $81.8-billion represents 12.98% of GDP and Israel at $18.8-bilion spent 6.22% of her GDP on defence.

For a balance of power in the South Asian region; Pakistan needs to spend about 30% of Indian yearly defence budget or that about $15 to $16-billion. With GDP at current level it would represent 5.5% of GDP. This Pakistan cannot afford. Therefore only way to be strong enough to compete with India is by improving our economy to the extent that we can successfully defend against India with conventional forces; without resorting to nuclear weapons; as we did in 1965.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Sir, wouldn't this imply that the next generation fighter that the PAF is looking for will be considerably delayed in getting inducted. Correct me if I am wrong, then the only option would be a joint venture with Turkey or China after the infrastructure and requisite manpower necessary for such a program is developed and start functioning at the Aviation City. Will it not be safe to say that we are not getting any stealth fighter before 2030 or even later?

If the above case is true, then we will only be having later block iterations of the JF-17 and nothing else. The capabilities gap during the next 5 to 10 years will become critically lopsided in the adversaries favor.

Ideally, I imagine the PAF would love to have an intermediary jet such as the Su-35 or AESA equipped F-16 to hold the fort until the next gen platform.

 

[fatman17]

Mirage line up at night

 

[fatman17]

JF 17

 

[Rocky rock]

 

[fatman17]

Red Flag and Green Flag pics

 

[fatman17]

F16 C/D

 

[Inception-06]

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Notice the shelters in the backround:

Exelent picture, which air base is that ?Is it common in the Pakistan air force to build bunkers by using stone bricks ? Or have stone bricks and cement the same protection level ?

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Mirage line up at night

Impressive picture, are this weather shelters also camouflaged from above ?

 

[fatman17]

Notice the shelters in the backround:

Exelent picture, which air base is that ?Is it common in the Pakistan air force to build bunkers by using stone bricks ? Or have stone bricks and cement the same protection level ?



Impressive picture, are this weather shelters also camouflaged from above ?

To protect from intense heat of the sun.

 

[barbarosa]

Agar Magar say kam nahi chaley ga. PAF has need of new air crafts,Typoone or SU35.
F16 has gone, leave the dreams of F16.

 

[fatman17]

China has set up its own state-owned aircraft engine maker . Registered with $7.5 billion in capital, the move comes as Beijing seeks to push Chinese products and services up the value chain, prioritizing aircraft engines, high-speed rail, and nuclear power as areas in which it wants China to excel. State-owned AVIC said in March that it was finalizing a 129 billion yuan merger of its aircraft engine businesses in a move to create a giant that could eventually compete with the likes of United Technologies Corp’s aircraft engine maker Pratt & Whitney.

 

[mingle]

China has set up its own state-owned aircraft engine maker . Registered with $7.5 billion in capital, the move comes as Beijing seeks to push Chinese products and services up the value chain, prioritizing aircraft engines, high-speed rail, and nuclear power as areas in which it wants China to excel. State-owned AVIC said in March that it was finalizing a 129 billion yuan merger of its aircraft engine businesses in a move to create a giant that could eventually compete with the likes of United Technologies Corp’s aircraft engine maker Pratt & Whitney.

Its great move

 

[newindiandefence]

I think u should go for. Mig 35 best option for pak. Egypt signed deal for 50 its @ 2 billion .... it's affordable and 4.5+ gen fighter........ buy 100 Mig 35 if Russia allow .

 

[fatman17]

I think u should go for. Mig 35 best option for pak. Egypt signed deal for 50 its @ 2 billion .... it's affordable and 4.5+ gen fighter........ buy 100 Mig 35 if Russia allow .

will not happen. Pakistan's options are quite limited.

Key is economy indeed. It is okay to wish that we should have this or that but how are we going to pay for the hardware?

Based on 2015 data as given in the Military Balance 2016; Pakistan’s GDP as of 2015 was Rs 27.4 trillion. Defence budget for 2015 being $7.456-billion is 2.75% of GDP. Indian GDP being $2.18- trillion. Defence expenditure of $48-billion is only 2.2% of the Indian GDP.

Among the super powers, Chinese GDP being $11.4-trilion, defence budget of $146-billion represents a mere 1.28%. USA Defence budget of $598-bilion represents 3.3% of GDP and Russia at $ 516-billion spends 4.18%.

In the Middle East Saudi Arabia’s defence expenditure of $81.8-billion represents 12.98% of GDP and Israel at $18.8-bilion spent 6.22% of her GDP on defence.

For a balance of power in the South Asian region; Pakistan needs to spend about 30% of Indian yearly defence budget or that about $15 to $16-billion. With GDP at current level it would represent 5.5% of GDP. This Pakistan cannot afford. Therefore only way to be strong enough to compete with India is by improving our economy to the extent that we can successfully defend against India with conventional forces; without resorting to nuclear weapons; as we did in 1965.

we have to resolve our electricity power crisis before we can do anything. factories cannot run on water. our exports are dwindling since 2013.

 

[immehdis]

A breif information about this would be appreciated.

Any who..

So total number of F-16s planned are?

18 New F-16 Block 50+
18 New F-16 Block 50+ (Option, but not ordered)
36 F-16 Block 15+ with few Block 40+.

Any other orders? Can anybody confirm the old F-16s we are getting. What was the number?