“It’s A Suicide Mission, SAAR!”: Indian Air Force Squadron Disbanded Due to Refusal By Pilots To Get Airborne

[TopGun786]

Y DID CHAIWALA SEND MIG TO F-16 OF PAF ? TO MAKE SURE THAT MIG CRASHES AND CHAIWALA CAN CON THE 1.5 BILLION HINDOOS TO BUY RAFALES !

The Anovirum Organum of the IAF crashes – how the IAF plans its crashes ?

Step 1 – Identify the Pilots who are a pain or a threat – in terms of raising a stink,on matters of corruption,harassment,incompetence,rape …

Step 2 – Identify the Pilots who are or will likely be, medically or physically impaired,to fly fighter jets, based on their medical and genetic history – and thus, be a dead weight on the IAF – and then,probably turn against the state

Step 3- Identify the aircrafts wherein no insurance is claimed for years or a decade,as a part of the Group or Cluster Accident Insurance Policy – and the insurance paid,is essentially down the drain – especially if paid to the private sector.Since no asset replacement is possible – post crash,the claim is only for the Book Value or Technical value of the aircraft – which is not a material amount

Step 4 – Identify the aircraft with the highest allocated cost (spares and maintenance/repairs and time and opportunity cost of engineering time),per effective operating hours per annum.

Step 5 – Identify jets made by HAL and spares for Jets supplied by HAL – which IAF pilots DO NOT WANT TO FLY OR USE.

Every 60-90 days,the above list is upated and the Chief presses the KILL BUTTON.The Defense Minister is a Rajput clown, who wears a lungi.He is the LEADER of the IAF.

https://www.nationalheraldindia.com...as-rajnath-singh-takes-delivery-of-rafale-jet

For the West – who do not know – the lungi is a skirt,worn with a panty.In the above picture you can see the skirt.

IT IS A FACT IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN THAT THE INDIAN STATE IS NOW SHIFTING ITS PROCUREMENT TO THE EU – AND THIS HAS ALSO COINCIDED WITH SOME UNEXPLAINED MIG 29 CRASHES (RECENTLY) ON RUSSIAN CARRIERS – AND THE FACT THAT A FEW YEARS AGO ,THE USAF BOUGHT 12 – RUSSIAN MIG 29s – from a EASTERN EU nation –AND HAS DISSECTED THE MIGS (with GERMAN AID)

INDIAN MIGs crash at the minimum once in 60-90 days – and not in border areas,PLAF crashes Indian Sukhois and Choppers at will in the North East – especially in Arunachal and Sikkim – by EMP and EW – for which Indians have no Counter measures.In essence,the PLAF is conversant with all the IAF and ADS platforms in the Eastern Theatre.

AND PLAF is using its own Jets made for their specific needs – and no IAF pilot has even a reasonable idea about the capabilities of the latest Chinese Jets and the skills of their pilots.And the IAF will learn soon, the hard way.

Data on IAF crashes in India is TOP SECRET and no one knows how and why the planes crash !

IN THE CONTEXT OF LARGE NUMBER OF MIG CRASHES W.R.T MIGs MADE BY HAL – WHEREIN THE IAF HAS ACCUSED THE HAL OF POOR QUALITY AND THE HAL HAS ACCUSED THE IAF OF INEPTITUDE AND POOR TRAINING – IT MIGHT BE NOTED THAT ALMOST ALL EU/US AND RUSSIAN AIRCRAFT SUPPLIERS HAVE REFUSED TO ALLOW HAL TO DO A LICENSED MANUFACTURE IN INDIA
• THIS IS A TESTIMONY TO THE DEFENSE MANUFACTURING IN INDIA AND THE FACT THAT FOREIGN AIRCRAFT MAKERS DO NOT WANT TO DAMAGE THEIR BRAND BY ALLOWING A MAKE IN INDIA OPERATION and also,THAT THEY DO NOT TRUST HAL WITH THEIR TECHNOOLOGY SECRETS

IT IS ALSO A FACT THAT THE INDIAN AIRCRAFT CRASH INVESTIGATION AUTHORITY , HAS OPENLY DOUBTED THE CAPABILITIES OF THE INDIAN AIRFORCE TO CONDUCT AN IMPARTIAL AND INDEPENDENT COI

o IT IS A MATTER OF SPECULATION THAT THE AIR CRASH INVESTIGATION OF THE IAF IS DELIBERATELY UNDERSTAFFED ,UNDERSKILLED,UNSKILLED AND COMPROMISED TO SUIT THE AGENDA OF VESTED INTERESTS IN INDIA AND FOREIGN NATIONS

THE DEBATE IN THE INDIAN MEDIA AND INDIAN PARLIAMENT IS WORTHLESS AND MEANINGLESS AS THERE IS NO QUESTIONING OF THE IAF W.R.T. A STRUCTURED ANALYSIS OF THE IAF CRASHES AND ITS TRENDS AS UNDER :

• AIRCRAFT TYPE
• AIRCRAFT BRAND
• WHETHER BRANDED AIRCRAFT (MIG) MADE IN INDIA (LIKE IN HAL)
• WHETHER SPARES SOURCED FROM HAL OR IMPORTED
• WHETHER SPARES IMPORTED FROM OEM OR AGENTS OR 2ND HAND SUPPLIES OR REFURBISHED SUPPLIES
• WHETHER SINGLE OR DOUBLE ENGINE AIRCRAFTS
• CLASS 1 ACCIDENTS (DESTRUCTION OF CRAFT AND PILOT) PER 10000, OR 100000 HOURS OF AIRCRAFT
• CLASS 1 ACCIDENTS (DESTRUCTION OF CRAFT AND PILOT) PER 1000, OR 10000 HOURS OF PILOT
• ACCIDENT HISTORY BY AGE OF AIRCRAFT
o ALL OF THE ABOVE, MAKES THE DATA IN PARAMOUNT PUBLIC INTEREST

ALL THE LEADING AIR FORCES OF THE WORLD, HAVE DONE A DETAILED STATISTICAL ANALYSIS OF THE ABOVE,AND PLACED IT IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN

• AS AN EXAMPLE,THE AIR CRASH AND FATALITY RECORD OF THE USAF PER 100000 FLYING HOURS IS LESS THAN 1 (AND THUS,IN DECIMAL DIGITS)

IN INDIA THIS OPACITY IS A PART OF A PLAN TO HIDE INCOMPETENCE IN THE IAF /HAL AND ALSO TO HIDE CORRUPTION IN THE PROCUREMENT OF JETS AND 2ND HAND SPARES – AND THE ARMS DEALERS HAVE PAID OFF THE POLITICIANS,BUREAUCRATS,IAF AND THE MEDIA

SEVERAL RETIRED AIF HONCHOS, ARE ON THE PAYROLL OF GLOBAL ARMS SUPPLIERS,AND DEALERS

The state of the IAF is evident in that , the IAF had peddled lies to explain the destruction of an IAF chopper, during the PAF air raid (a year ago) , later officially confirmed,to have been caused by the ADS of the Indian GBR inspite of IFF active on the choppers (possibly blocked or paralysed by PAF/IAF EW/Jammers).In essence, the Indian ADS shot down a IAF chopper (which was locked and loaded) ,on the Indian side of the border, in Bugdam !

The Rafale fighters have ALREADY BEEN BLOWN by PAF pilots in the Middle East.So unless the IAF is buying a customised version for combat with the PAF and the PLAF – this is another disaster !dindooohindoo

As I said above,The Rafale fighters have ALREADY BEEN FLOWN by PAF pilots, in the Middle East – but let us assume, that the IAF is getting customised Rafales

So Y are MIGs crashing ?

The Alt view is that IAF allows and plans the crashing of the MIGs.The aim is to crash the ,MIG and spare the pilot.Some of the pilots who are a liability or a burden or a risk,and are not exiting the IAF,also have a magical death,in the MIG crashes. The IAF pilots have blind faith on their technicians.The easiest way to kill a pilot in a MIG crash, is to jam or delay the ejection.

So what is the Grand Plan here ? MIG crashes suit the Arms dealers and the IAF honchos, and the Politicians and Bureaucrats ! In addition,it builds up the media hype,and drowns out the allegations of corruption,in news arms procurements.

MIG crashes also SUITS the IAF honchos wishes to make direct imports and NOT insist on tech transfer to HAL and DRDO – as IAF has no faith on Indians, and it provides post retirement benefits to the IAF honchos and employments to the kids of the IAF honchos. Jet acquisition, being a technical matter,THE TECHNICAL CLEARANCE IS ALL THAT COUNTS – and that is where the money is made.Thereafter,the price negotiation is done by bureaucrats and Politicians,who have never even flown a jet.The MIG crashes, JUSTIFY the TECHNICAL NEED for aircraft acquisition, to SUIT the DESIRES of the IAF honchos.

The Genius of the MIG crash model,is such that,the GOI conned the Indian Supreme Court to state that the Court had no ken to go into the pricing and corruption of the Rafale deal,The GOI stated that the Court should ONLY look into the process of procurement and pricing (As the process was laid down and planned,by the scamsters)

The Origin of the planting of this seed of genius of crashing MIGs, into the brain of the IAF honchos,Politicians and bureaucrats – are the ARMS DEALERS,WHO ARE CAMPED IN NEW DELHI. It is these arms dealers who make the IAF acquisition strategy, and also fund,defense think tanks in India and political parties.These arms dealers are funded by INT agencies and Global arms suppliers

So the MIG crashes are a part of a PLAN – and NOT random chance or training issues or engine failures.dindooohindoo

By deferring the MIG replacements interminably,the IAF and GOI are in a position of NO CHOICE and NO NEGOTIATION capacity.

OMG
That was one of the best researched articles I have read since quite a time and I couldn't agree more.
Well done.

 

[GiantPanda]

No wonder India was so desperate for Rafales. lol

 

[MastanKhan]

“It’s A Suicide Mission, Sir!”: Indian Air Force Squadron Disbanded Due to Refusal By Pilots To Get Airborne​

“It’s A Suicide Mission, Sir!”: Indian Air Force Squadron Disbanded Due to Refusal By Pilots To Get Airborne

Note: This article is based on leaked classified document on the investigation about the No. 51 Squadron of Indian Air Force & its performance against Pakistan Air Force on 27th February 2019 during Operation Swift Retort.

Pakistan Strategic Forum has been able to gain access to documents from inside the Indian Defense Ministry, which we verified as being authentic after an extensive digital forensic study and from corroborations from three different Indian military officials. The documents paint a damning story about the No. 51 Squadron’s performance and its pilot’s unwillingness to get airborne during the Pakistan Air Force’s Operation Swift Retort.

The documents seen by Pakistan Strategic Forum, which we have shared with Pakistani authorities and also sent to two media houses in India, are concerned with a three month long internal inquiry called on by the Indian Defense Ministry after fighter pilots assigned to the Srinagar-based No. 51 Squadron were “unwilling and unable to get airborne against the enemy during the PAF’s ingress into Indian territory”. The Indian MoD’s inquiry points to the exact time when the No. 51 squadron were tasked to scramble and fly towards their vectored sector, and the exact time Abhinandan’s sortie was taking-off, noticing a massive time difference of almost 30 minutes between the two events.

The inquiry’s internal documents go on to say that after multiple debriefs and extensive questioning of the squadron’s airmen, ground crew and pilots, that the board of inquiry “has established beyond reasonable doubt that the officers and pilots of the Srinagar AFS showed a complete lack of willingness to follow the given orders and this led to an imbalance in force ratio to Indian disadvantage at a decisive juncture in the events of that day, and led to the shooting down of Abhinandan’s jet”. Of course, the IAF officers conducting the inquiry forgot to mention how it was the superior strategy and tactics of Pakistani offensive counter-air units in the sky that led to that particular shoot down.

At least 7 different ground crew were able to state on record that the majority of pilots were already showing fear and unwillingness to be sent into the air after Indian Air Force were all alerted around 9:20 AM on the 27th of February 2019. One senior pilot in the squadron said that he hoped the IAF Western Command “would not be stupid enough” to send their R-77 armed MiG-21s to go fight the PAF’s F-16s and JF-17s calling it a “suicide mission”, and would rather send the better-equipped Mirage 2000s and Su-30MKIs.

This led to the pilots, gathered together in a briefing room at Srinagar Air Base, looking at each other uneasily and agreeing silently that this is the right decision. The pilots later debated on whether they should communicate to their superiors at the base about their feelings on the situation, portraying the recommendations as for the safety of pilots and the aircraft.

To their dismay, the orders came much earlier than they had expected and they were left with facing the uneasy prospect of going into the air against a superior adversary with almost no support from the other, more capable fighters in the IAF’s inventory.

The internal inquiry states that the IAF pilots were unwilling to take off primarily because they felt that they had inferior platforms, as well as lapses in planning. What the inquiry fails to say is that at that time, Indian Su-30MKIs in the area had already been heavily beaten back by Paksitani F-16s firing their AIM-120 missiles, hitting and shooting down one of them at around 9:32 AM. Similarly, two IAF Mirage 2000s in the area reported heavy interference in comms and jamming of their radars by the Pakistani JF-17A Thunder jets they were facing, and were requesting to return-to-base (RTB) fearing that if they got closer to the border the JF-17s might shoot them down.

The No. 51’s pilots knew this, and thus that became one of the main reasons that pilots were unwilling to go into their fighters and scramble to take off. The inquiry report even states that one of the pilots gave the excuse of a “stomach bug” and spent 40 minutes in the washrooms as the debate on whether to fly or not was ongoing between the pilots. Eventually after several heated orders coming from the base commander to get airborne, who himself was being lambasted by the commander of IAF Western Command, six pilots mustered up the courage to get into their jets and taxi to the runway.

The inquiry states that of these six, only five took off while one MiG-21 reported a technical issue with his engine thrust, rather conveniently appearing during the taxiing to the runway, and refused to take off, citing ‘safety issues’. Of the five that did took off, only two (one of which was Abhinandan) proceeded to fly to the sector they had been vectored to by their ground controllers, while one of their colleague remained flying further inside Indian airspace, and the other two flew CAPs over Srinagar AFS, all three technically disobeying direct orders to fly to the LOC and take on the PAF. Later, Abhinandan and his wingman were also heavily jammed as they came near the border, and due to this they could not access radar information or subsequent IAF ground controller’s orders to turn back because they could see only two Indian fighters were heading towards a heavy concentration of PAF fighter sweeps.

According to a former and currently serving Indian air force official that spoke to PSF under the condition of anonymity considering the sensitivity of the issue, said that in the next two minutes, things happened in rapid succession as Abhinandan’s wingman abandoned or left him and turned back, unknown to Abhinandan who thought he was being followed by his wingman and going to confront a single Pakistani Mirage III fighter-bomber.

All of his comms being jammed and with no air-intercept radar opportunities being available, he was unaware that he had, quite literally, no support assets at his disposal and he was being watched by Pakistani airborne early warning aircraft, being jammed by the PAF’s electronic warfare aircraft and was walking into a hornet’s nest. He was confronted by a F-16 fighter and his wingman, who shot a single AIM-120C missile at the MiG-21 Bison, whose old and malfunctioning radar warning receiver only began beeping when the missile was in the air and coming towards him, flowing hot at over Mach 2. He had no time to react and ejected as his plane was hit and shot down in a ball of flame. The rest, as they say, is history.

According to data available with Pakistan Strategic Forum, the Pakistani airstrikes began that day at around 9:25 AM local time, and Indian air defenses vectored the No. 51 squadron’s MiG-21s at the same time. The three MiG-21s took off from Srinagar AFS at 9:47 AM, raising serious questions on the lapses in training and chain-of-command at IAF, which ultimately led to this inquiry and its findings.

The inquiry also stated that the board recommends grounding 13 pilots and disbanding the squadron from IAF service. Later, under the excuse of a routine phase-out of the MiG-21 from the Indian Air Force, the squadron was disbanded from the Indian Air Force and will not be re-equipped with new fighters. This serious lapse also led to the commander of Indian Western Air Command being removed from his post, according to a serving Indian Air Force official that spoke to PSF on the topic during our investigation.

It seems the planned phase-out of the MiG-21 happened at just the right time and acted as a blessing-in-disguise for the already embarrassed Indian Air Force, saving face from an abysmal performance in the 2019 skirmishes with Pakistan. The No. 51 squadron was disbanded on the 30th of September 2022, and the grounded pilots are now being assigned menial posts in such branches as logistics and accounting in faraway Indian air stations.

“It’s A Suicide Mission, Sir!”: Indian Air Force Squadron Disbanded Due to Refusal By Pilots To Get Airborne

This article is based on leaked classified document on the investigation about the No. 51 Squadron of Indian Air Force & its performance against Pakistan Air Force on 27th February 2019 during Operation Swift Retort

pakstrategic.com

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Hi,

The pilots did not do anything wrong---. There is a limit to sacrificing yourself in a lesser equipment when better equipment is available---. But then there are some who will regardless of the cost---.

So---pakistani fanboys---don't be over excited---.

And I told you guys before---Abhinandan was a hero & is a hero----he was and is a true warrior---.

And after this read---my respect for him has grown---.

 

[TopGun786]

Hi,

The pilots did not do anything wrong---. There is a limit to sacrificing yourself in a lesser equipment when better equipment is available---. But then there are some who will regardless of the cost---.

So---pakistani fanboys---don't be over excited---.

And I told you guys before---Abhinandan was a hero & is a hero----he was and is a true warrior---.

And after this read---my respect for him has grown---.

Yes, he is a hero in a sense that never boasted and lied.
He chose truth and denied having shot any jet when he was in Pakistan's custody.
He remained true to his words even when he reached back to India. He never claimed while all the Godi media was busy ranting to hide embarrassment.
Abhinandan made another sacrifice for his his country when he accepted award from government. He sacrificed all his honour and dignity just to please his fellow countrymen in a broader sense.
In my personal opinion the guy was different from other typical Indians but he has to do it to save his country's face whatever.
It the sense of guilt over taking award for a drama which the whole world knows is fake, must be giving him nightmares and lack of sleep at nights. The guy may commit suicide in future due to taunting of his fellow officers, but again it will be a sacrifice for his country and he will be hailed as a "Shaheed" and awarded another vir Chakra.

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

Indian Airforce and Fake glory have been hand in hands ever since. Trevor Keelor was awarded vir chakra for a fake F-86 kill in 1965, 5 decades later history repeated itself and Nandu was awarded vir chakra for fake F-16 kill.

 

[SQ8]

Hi,

The pilots did not do anything wrong---. There is a limit to sacrificing yourself in a lesser equipment when better equipment is available---. But then there are some who will regardless of the cost---.

So---pakistani fanboys---don't be over excited---.

And I told you guys before---Abhinandan was a hero & is a hero----he was and is a true warrior---.

And after this read---my respect for him has grown---.

He also conducted himself well as a PoW and despite being beaten black and blue by the villagers that caught him did not hold it and reportedly was cordial and understood it was expected.

 

[Windjammer]

He also conducted himself well as a PoW and despite being beaten black and blue by the villagers that caught him did not hold it and reportedly was cordial and understood it was expected.

Furthermore when he went back, he wasn't gloating and playing to the audience which is often the case with the Indian weekend warriors.

 

[SQ8]

Furthermore when he went back, he wasn't gloating and playing to the audience which is often the case with the Indian weekend warriors.

He is a honorable officer put into an impossible situation by his country even after returning home

 

[Dil Pakistan]

What a Surprise...

Ye tou haal hai een ke Mighty Air Force ka.

Two Mirage 2000s retreated due Radar issues. How convenient. Both Jets had Radar issues at the same time. Must have been contagious. Seems to me that their Radars were working just fine - which led to them bugging out, in the first place.

IAF - what a bunch of pussies.

Actually! .... the story of "radar issues" is correct. PAF had jammed IAF communication with base and between the airborne jets. No wonder they thought their radars are malfunctioning.

 

[Chakar The Great]

Indians are cowards!!


They can only scream on TV screens and Bollywood movies.

 

[maverick1977]

Plan, order number #221 was executed that day. Pre defined targets were pulled out by PAF. Mirages from karachi and F16s jacobabad moved at night to quetta, and then moved behind Suleman ranges and then surfaced to attack the targets by joining other planes from Kamra and Sargodha. Shock and awe for Indian airforce. A total of 7 targets were locked. nothing was authorized to fire upon. Abhinandan was taken down as he was tracking and acquiring missile lock on a returning JF17. It was a defensive shot to protect assets. He in heat of pursuing of JF17 had a tunnel vision where he lost situational awareness of surroundings and F16s took him down from high altitude. His radar couldnt lock onto JF17 due to jammers from Blinders squardon and ECM on JF17s.
Finnaly one target was authorized to be taken down within Indian territory which was SU30Mki, which fell in indian territory. It was given a salvo a pair of 120C5s. one proximity and the second then bingo hit as it was already crippled.

 

[MastanKhan]

He also conducted himself well as a PoW and despite being beaten black and blue by the villagers that caught him did not hold it and reportedly was cordial and understood it was expected.

Hi,

It was amazing to see that character in him---. He still had his head high up in the air after that trauma of ejecting out of the aircraft and then the beatings---. Made his father / mother proud right to the end---.

 

[SIPRA]

Hi,

It was amazing to see that character in him---. He still had his head high up in the air after that trauma of ejecting out of the aircraft and then the beatings---. Made his father / mother proud right to the end---.

Of course. Have high regards for him. Quite a different character from India.

 

[VkdIndian]

That was one of the best researched articles I have read since quite a time

Long doesn’t mean well researched.

 

[SaadH]

Yes, he is a hero in a sense that never boasted and lied.
He chose truth and denied having shot any jet when he was in Pakistan's custody.
He remained true to his words even when he reached back to India. He never claimed while all the Godi media was busy ranting to hide embarrassment.
Abhinandan made another sacrifice for his his country when he accepted award from government. He sacrificed all his honour and dignity just to please his fellow countrymen in a broader sense.
In my personal opinion the guy was different from other typical Indians but he has to do it to save his country's face whatever.
It the sense of guilt over taking award for a drama which the whole world knows is fake, must be giving him nightmares and lack of sleep at nights. The guy may commit suicide in future due to taunting of his fellow officers, but again it will be a sacrifice for his country and he will be hailed as a "Shaheed" and awarded another vir ChaChakra

Wouldn't it have been more honorable and shown more gravitas on his part had he refused to accept the award?