PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[maverick1977]

Besides Sq 15 with J10C, what other sq is in play for J10Cs?

 

[aliyusuf]

If Israeli lobby would have been able to stop it we won't have gotten F-16 in 80s. We would get weapons which we want as long as we have money INSHALLAH

That was when the Afghan-Soviet tussle was going on and the US was using Pakistan as the trouble maker in chief for the Soviets. So that deal was a necessary payment as a guarantee for cooperation from the Pakistanis. But we did not get the BVR enabled version of the F-16's back then. Israel had AIM-7F and am not sure whether they had the AIM-120A back then. They were flying the BVR enabled Mighty Eagles.

Things are much different today.

 

[Zarvan]

That was when the Afghan-Soviet tussle was going on and the US was using Pakistan as the trouble maker in chief for the Soviets. So that deal was a necessary payment as a guarantee for cooperation from the Pakistanis. But we did not get the BVR enabled version of the F-16's back then. Israel had AIM-7F and am not sure whether they had the AIM-120A back then. They were flying the BVR enabled Mighty Eagles.

Things are much different today.

Don't boys know what they are doing. They won't make deal based on risk. Just relax and wait and watch lot of things in play for all three forces.

 

[aliyusuf]

Don't boys know what they are doing. They won't make deal based on risk. Just relax and wait and watch lot of things in play for all three forces.

Well brother, of course, they must be. For sure.
But that is subject to the possibility that such deals are being negotiated at all within the context you are suggesting, in the first place.

 

[Zarvan]

Well brother, of course, they must be. For sure.
But that is subject to the possibility that such deals are being negotiated at all within the context you are suggesting, in the first place.

INSHALLAH they are and lot more will be discussed. In next 8 to 10 years INSHALLAH we would buy lot of big weapons for all our forces from both China and Russia but also Europe and USA and other countries.

 

[aliyusuf]

INSHALLAH they are and lot more will be discussed. In next 8 to 10 years INSHALLAH we would buy lot of big weapons for all our forces from both China and Russia but also Europe and USA and other countries.

So one of these inductions will be made public on 23rd March?

 

[Blueskiez 2001]

INSHALLAH they are and lot more will be discussed. In next 8 to 10 years INSHALLAH we would buy lot of big weapons for all our forces from both China and Russia but also Europe and USA and other countries.

We should not buy but develop and produce the weapons ourselves....

 

[Ghessan]

so who is going to 23 March Parade for some high resolution photographs to share at forum?

 

[untitled]

But we did not get the BVR enabled version of the F-16's back then.

PAF received the Block 15 F-16s. AIM-7 was not integrated on F16s until the Block 25. The ability was retrofitted on earlier blocks when the first MLU became available which the PAF missed out on

PS.. We would have most likely got the AIM-7 earlier had we opted for the F-20 Tigershark

am not sure whether they had the AIM-120A back then.

The AIM-120 became operational in the USAF late in the first Gulf war (1991). During this war they were captive carried but not fired in anger.

 

[Chak Bamu]

We have an active thread of J-10C for PAF. Shouldn't we merge both?

Please do.

 

[redtom]

the chinese have already exported the extensive CHL-906 system to Algeria, certain components of which are the primary system that the PLA uses. Additionally the chinese have sold several advanced ground based EW systems to the PA already so dont think the PLA has any problems regarding EW purchases by PA & PAF.

China already has a fairly sophisticated weapons export system. It now appears that in addition to the products that failed in the PLA's bidding, companies will develop weapons systems specifically for export. Sensitive technologies will be on the control list and require special approval from the competent authorities.This gives companies clear rules and makes it easier for them to develop new weapons for foreign trade.

 

[PakShaheen79]

If 25 J-10CP are coming by the end of this month, will they all go in a single squadron? i.e. Sq. 15.
As we know PAF is reportedly going for around 60ish J-10C, it means there must be at least one new squadron i.e. increase in Sq strength. But if that happens it would be interesting to see under which PAF command it is raised.

 

[The Eagle]

Please do.

Adding on; we will allow only a new thread like "Pakistan Air Force J-10C Discussion" when these jets are here and officially inducted. Members shall not create separate thread for the same discussion as of this anymore. We can utilize this thread till then. I think everyone will agree with that.

 

[Zarvan]

So one of these inductions will be made public on 23rd March?

No one is saying induction is done. Or even a deal is signed but things are in progress. Many things are near deal, and some are in starting phase and some in middle. And some may be quietly inducted so yes something can be shown on 23rd March. Apart from J-10 C, Z-10 ME, HQ 9, SH 15 and other systems.

If 25 J-10CP are coming by the end of this month, will they all go in a single squadron? i.e. Sq. 15.
As we know PAF is reportedly going for around 60ish J-10C, it means there must be at least one new squadron i.e. increase in Sq strength. But if that happens it would be interesting to see under which PAF command it is raised.

18+18+18 that makes 3 squadrons and last 6 will be CCS.

 

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Pakistan Air Force J-10C Discussion"

I bet there will be at least 5+ threads when the jets land