PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[Vapnope]

EW is most basic thing now for Pakistan. Although if you are hinting at J-16 D then that is most likely not true. In all probability it's something from west

Not J16D..

 

[Zarvan]

Not J16D..

EW are happening but this is not what Tipu is referring too.

 

[The Terminator]

Name would be remain same with just addition of (P) J-10CP , if F-16 and mirages names remained same what is with Chines jets ?

it could be. But, Well it would be a relatively new phenomena in PAF if we bring the history into the context. F-6, A-5, F-7 and in Musharraf era J-10 was reported as FC-20 in the news when rumors started for their acquisition into the PAF back then

 

[chinasun]

 

[Deino]

 

[kursed]

My money is on HD-1(series) of weapons and/or a Y-9 EW platform.

 

[Goenitz]

You should make these kinds of videos too... Just watch karoordarshan. It will help both politically and brush your skills.
The best thing I have in mind is to show coamprison between 2013 IA parade and 2022 Parade. It is much more RSSnised now. No cultural floats but 'mandir' floats.

 

[The Terminator]

What do you think is happening right now. They won't announce it on loud speaker until deal is finalized. Just like J-10 C wasn't announced. If they reach the deal it would be announced so relax. We are not going to give them bases or end our relationship with China to get F-16. If they want to sell us weapons fare enough if they don't we give a dam. We have several other options.

Currently we are on a right track to strike a balance between 2 great world powers. China is our neighbor, time tested friend and global manufacturing powerhouse, while US has still the biggest market and military prowess, and they still own the petrodollar $$$ printing machines. We are culturally more inclined towards west/US due to our colonial era roots attached with the UK.

But still we can't deny the fact that China did invest/loan in Pakistan's development projects when nobody was willing to come to Pakistan. We have similar agenda in our foreign policies, shared animosity towards India in Ladakh/Kashmir.

So it would be foolish to turn against the neighbor, time tested friend China to please some power 3 oceans away. We've been betrayed twice in Afghanistan by the same "ally". Pakistan can't break ties or sit in the opposite camp of China under any foreign pressure. Same could be applied to country like Mexico would never dare to side against US upon request of Russia or China due to proximity and shared border with the US.

When Afghanistan was being liberated from the foreign powers in the August, Pakistan was also going through a policy shift as was most of the world like US, India, Russia etc. to name a few. That's why we are experiencing different approach from the leadership of the US and Pakistan towards each other.

 

[The Terminator]

what else is the PAF able to afford right now after all these acquisitions?

New AESA equipped Eurofighter Typhoons or F-15EX

 

[The Terminator]

Both F-16 and Typhoons has chance brother. We are Pakistan. And yes we know about economy and geo political issues. Still they are open and we most likely will be going for them. @Big_bud

Lockheed Martin's proposed F-22/F-35 hybrid for Pakistan has also a chance.

 

[Beast]

That license was only for the controlled production of the J-11A/Su-27SK Flankers. But, China has been violating that license ever since with the continued production of the J-11B, J-15, and J-16. Clandestinely based on the Su-27SK, Su-33, Su-30MKK respectively.

But the Russians have uttered only muted protests and have preferred to turn a blind eye to these violations, due to the substantial economic support that it receives in trade with China.

Also, PMIK is about to embark on a trip to Russia.
Let's see what comes out of that trip.

There are different understanding to the contract of 200 J11A/Su-27sk. Chinese thought they bought both 200 frame kits plus rights for continue production of Su-27 related fighter. In fact, we Chinese told Russian the intention right from start and they never say say a thing. They only complain when the J-11b, full domestic version of Su-27sk produced. It is then the conflict about the right started.

 

[The Terminator]

Both F-16 and Typhoons has chance brother. We are Pakistan. And yes we know about economy and geo political issues. Still they are open and we most likely will be going for them. @Big_bud

Now we would latest AESA equipped JF-17B3 and J-10C, it would be beneficial for US and it's allies to sell surplus/retired fighters to Pakistan to earn some quick bucks or to retain some leverage upon Pakistani decision makers in the longer run. Nothing force multiplier is going to be coming from US for Pakistan. They don't even have the grace to release Pakistani cobras which our Army needs badly.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Very good
A machine which is saving your a** for 40 years , use it as a target practice

So you believe, "Agar F-Sola na hota, to aaj Pakistan na hota?"

Whatever platform Pakistan had acquired in the 1980s-1990s would've been adapted to provide maximum defence of the nation.

 

[That Guy]

Rafale's avionics is even inferior to that of F-17 Block 3

Radar comparison between JF-17 B3 and Rafale

This post https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/can-someone-explain-the-difference-between-the-french-rafael-vs-chinese-j-10c.732278/ drew my attention and raised my interest investigating radar performance difference between JF-17 Block III and Rafale. First thing we need to know Rafale has a smaller...

defence.pk

Did you read the reply?

 

[Foinikas]

I doubt the J-10 is as good as the Rafale but in the hands of the Indians...I don't know. Still it's a great addition to the Pakistani Air Force. Well done guys.