Well, the partition happened on religious basis and you got what you got on the basis of that delineation.
Whom to blame for something that was demanded by you?
Am I complaining, all I stated was that you got a better deal and we made everything ourself.
You had developed cities in Karachi and Lahore and India having 3 times more population (if not more) and Hindus having made more efforts in industry and education before partition would mean there would be a small advantage with India.
Karachi was a small town which was overcrowded and dirty, Lahore was also restricted and they had to be developed further after partition, you can read up on them.
We had a sudden influx of immigrants to certain areas and it was difficult to cope with this, people lived in temporary housing for a long period after they moved to Pakistan.
It\\\\\\\'s not as if India was industrialized when we got independence.
It had the industrialized parts, not the entire nation.
Now this particular thingy is better avoided here. We can discuss about Pakistani duplicity here as well. But in a separate thread.
Sure but the original deal was that we forget Mahudabad and the other place in return for plebiscite in Kashmir and Hyderabad.
We did what was required on our part and you did not do what was required on your part.
Your family story is pretty interesting.
As I said earlier, you are talking about a few thousand people at the most. I can agree that may be those few thousands were indulging in more overt display of their wealth while Indian rich were not that ostentatious earlier (now many of them are, to a sickening level like that billion dollar Ambani house). Extrapolating them to the whole country is disingenuous and I have seen many people do that, both Indians and Pakistanis.
There were more than enough who made money and there are exceptions because this region always had some of the richest people in the world.
Like this piece by Vir Sanghavi. I found it very shallow for the same reasons, trying to extrapolate a very tiny minority to a country of hundreds of millions.
What Devoured Glamorous Pakistan
Its about image based on a certain group that is most vocal and visible, it used to be glamorous intellectuals before, its mullahs now.
From whatever I have read, there couldn\\\\\\\'t have been more than a few thousand people who could afford those kind of luxury cars and the vast majority of them would be feudal or corrupt (as you mentioned yourself).
No, a lot of good people made money too but you know the levels of corruption here, that meant a lot of BMW's.
You do know that Ministers and their favored people get free BMW's, so do the Generals.
The many that you mention is a tiny fraction of the population that was lucky enough to get those kind of opportunities. Only very very few (a handful) would be lucky as you put it.
I would agree with you as I am only describing the social circle I moved in.
OK, here is what I got for car sales in Pakistan.
Dunya News: Business:-More than 1 lakh cars sold in 10 months
According to statistics, a total of 109,900 cars have been sold in the first 10 months of the current fiscal year. In April alone, 11,427 cars were assembled while 12,172 cars were sold.
This is 2010-2011 data.
Delhi sells more than 20,000 cars per month.
Mahindra First Choice Wheels opens a multi-brand SUPERSTORE in Delhi
India also has a higher car and motor vehicle density than Pakistan.
Motor vehicles statistics - countries compared worldwide - NationMaster
You can\\\\\\\'t have to many undercover car sales. We have to rely on public data for any meaningful discussion.
Also, most of the 100,000 cars sold would be the low end Suzuki Mehrans as they own 53% of the Pakistani market.
Like I said, the data available in Pakistan is limited and cannot be used, a lot of people don't pay taxes and they do not register their companies for this purpose.
You know the situation in our country and such statistical data is irrelevant, I know a number of Car Dealers locally who do not pay taxes or register their sales properly. These people only sell Escalades, BMW's, Mercedes and what not, they have political connections too.
That\'s why I put that 22 with a question mark. Including the feudals the family count would possibly double.
PS: My browser is putting all these extra \"\\\" for some reason.
It become 42 families by the 1970's until the nationalization kicked in.
This does not include the feudals and these families have various members who are independent and run their business by themselves.
Take the Lakhani's for example, their family members are running independent ventures under one brand.
Same goes for Saigols and the Mansha's.