From France with love : French Air Force carried out "massive" airstrikes against ISIS in Raqqah

[Madali]

If we did not bomb these targets, it was not because we did not observe them but because of other considerations, most likely political, that restrained us.

This is the exact sentence that people who are not as emotionally invested are wondering about. If France was already bombing ISIS, then how were you guys politically restrained in bombing the targets you are bombing now?

The only way we can interpret that restrain is that France did not want to bomb significantly weaken ISIS due to a higher NATO/GCC objective. Was this what has restrained France politically so far? And does that mean that France is now too upset too care about this political restrains after the attacks?

If true, then we should follow that with two other questions,
1) Should a country like France allow itself to be restrained like that?
2) Does a country like France need to be attacked first before actually doing what it was stating it was doing in the first place?

 

[Daneshmand]

This is the exact sentence that people who are not as emotionally invested are wondering about. If France was already bombing ISIS, then how were you guys politically restrained in bombing the targets you are bombing now?

The only way we can interpret that restrain is that France did not want to bomb significantly weaken ISIS due to a higher NATO/GCC objective. Was this what has restrained France politically so far? And does that mean that France is now too upset too care about this political restrains after the attacks?

If true, then we should follow that with two other questions,
1) Should a country like France allow itself to be restrained like that?
2) Does a country like France need to be attacked first before actually doing what it was stating it was doing in the first place?

Answers to your questions:

Was this what has restrained France politically so far?

The permission from United States.

And does that mean that France is now too upset too care about this political restrains after the attacks?

US has now permitted them to destroy a few buildings. By no means they are yet allowed to deploy an occupying military force in Raqqa. Partly this is due to the fact that even US after having occupied Afghanistan for 14 years now, has started to negotiate with Taliban.

Should a country like France allow itself to be restrained like that?

They have no other option. The situation calls for a military force on the ground that can go and occupy those areas indefinitely, bringing back the order. The only force that can be made capable in doing so is the forces under the command of Assad with help from Iran and Russia. This would mean France breaking away from US in this issue and aligning its policy for that region with Iran and Russia.

Does a country like France need to be attacked first before actually doing what it was stating it was doing in the first place?

A truly sovereign state would not wait of course. As Iran and Russia did not. But France has too many vested interests which drive its foreign policy. Saudis have a very strong influence in Paris. As do Americans. Basically the French have intertwined themselves with negative forces which they have no hope extricating themselves from. Their jets fly to bomb Isis from airbases in countries that are instrumental supporters of Isis both financially and ideologically. It is one big mess of mis-directed policies. Their hate for Assad, Iran and Russia has left them no choice on the ground. What you are seeing is the literal interpretation of being consumed by hate!

 

[Ceylal]

The French air force's Rafael's are based in the UAE. AND it's from the UAE where they go from to bomb ISIS, so kindly quit making baseless allegations. Knowing the troll you are it would be futile to discuss our operations, but do you remember why this lady made the headlines all over the west?

I know where the French are based and where they are flying from. What I said, so we can understand well, is that instead attacking ISIS, the French, the Russian, the US and whole NATO should have bombed the GCC to smithereen. That is the only to put an end to terrorism.

For the lady pilot, for me she is the only men that came from the Arabian Peninsula. If you, meant it as a jab for Algerian women, well Algerian women were flying MIGS, well before your the UAE switched from camel to airplane

Yeah,they also support terrorist groups all over the world and destroy many countries in the Middle east through proxy wars,interfere in other countries affairs......... But it's always our fault.
Accusing others of doing that,but they are also doing that.......That's why i prefer to end that discussion,because it is hilarious.
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This night,France launched new airstrikes against ISIS in Raqqah,10 aircrafts of the French air Force launched 16 bombs against ISIS's targets.

Why don't you tell us the role of France in the ME mess? in Lybia, in Africa..How can she arm some, like lybia ISIS, Boko haram and all the faction against Assad regime and fight them in Mali...Save the innocent people that were gun down shamelessly in Paris, don't you think that France had role in bringing violence to her citizens.

 

[A1Kaid]

France brought the attack upon themselves for meddling in the Middle East in the first place. They wanted to fight ISIS and ISIS brought the fight to them.

Politics at its finest. You're telling me that France all of a sudden has targets to hit in Al Raqqa?

Did they get this information over the past 24 hours or have been sitting on it for a while?

They are probably just bombing empty deserts and residential areas or any occupied standing buildings and then report "23 ISIS" killed...

 

[Vergennes]

They are probably just bombing empty deserts and residential areas or any occupied standing buildings and then report "23 ISIS" killed...

Some members on PDF acting as if they were in a command center of the French air force and knew what our aircrafts are bombing.
Hilarious. @mike2000 is back @flamer84 @Abingdonboy

 

[flamer84]

Some members on PDF acting as if they were in a command center of the French air force and knew what our aircrafts are bombing.
Hilarious. @mike2000 is back @flamer84 @Abingdonboy

I'm surprised that he hasn't mentioned the crusades allready

 

[Vergennes]

I'm surprised that he hasn't mentioned the crusades allready

But they are more reliable than the official authorities,it's time to stop being brainwashed and listen to them !
BTW,i won't even be surprised if he's an ISIS sympathizer,he is literally justyfing the attacks of Paris because we strike ISIS and "their people".
@waz Please,look trough his comments.....

 

[Vergennes]

@Nadhem Of Ibelin @F-22Raptor @AUSTERLITZ @The Vicious Kind @KAL-EL @Khafee @AMDR @Chinese-Dragon @Jai Bharat @egodoc222 @Tridibans @Barrel-Bomba @jbgt90 @Guynextdoor2 @sherin616 @graphican @mike2000 is back @flamer84 @PWFI @Ryuzaki @Koovie @[Bregs] @Jguo @pak-marine @Nihonjin1051

Take some popcorn. (Strikes at 1;25)
There will be a great cooperation between our forces and those of Russia and USA,let's destroy these pigs. It will benefit to the whole world. Let's ally together and send them to where they belong ! HELL !

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[Khafee]

@Nadhem Of Ibelin @F-22Raptor @AUSTERLITZ @The Vicious Kind @KAL-EL @Khafee @AMDR @Chinese-Dragon @Jai Bharat @egodoc222 @Tridibans @Barrel-Bomba @jbgt90 @Guynextdoor2 @sherin616 @graphican @mike2000 is back @flamer84 @PWFI @Ryuzaki @Koovie @[Bregs] @Jguo @pak-marine @Nihonjin1051

Take some popcorn. (Strikes at 1;25)
There will be a great cooperation between our forces and those of Russia and USA,let's destroy these pigs. It will benefit to the whole world. Let's ally together and send them to where they belong ! HELL !

No guesses as to where they are flying from

 

[Vergennes]

No guesses as to where they are flying from

The Mirage 2000 are flying from Jordan and the Rafale from UAE.

 

[PWFI]

@Nadhem Of Ibelin @F-22Raptor @AUSTERLITZ @The Vicious Kind @KAL-EL @Khafee @AMDR @Chinese-Dragon @Jai Bharat @egodoc222 @Tridibans @Barrel-Bomba @jbgt90 @Guynextdoor2 @sherin616 @graphican @mike2000 is back @flamer84 @PWFI @Ryuzaki @Koovie @[Bregs] @Jguo @pak-marine @Nihonjin1051

Take some popcorn. (Strikes at 1;25)
There will be a great cooperation between our forces and those of Russia and USA,let's destroy these pigs. It will benefit to the whole world. Let's ally together and send them to where they belong ! HELL !

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Il n'y a pas un moyen de louer quelque B-2 americain et faire rouler le tapis de bombes, c'est plus rapide je pense.

 

[waz]

Good flying French pilots.

But I have to agree that without ground operations. no real tangible objective can be achieved.

It's time for the Legion. The president should order a full mobilisation of the regular force as well. It's time to tell people to face a long and bloody war.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

France signed Geneva convention.

France killed hundreds of thousands of Algerians who had done absolutely no harm to France as a country except wanting their country back.

Let's kill French randomly, as convention is not applicable.

See? You can say that for many others.

Bombing ISIS only from the air is not going to destroy them.

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So, after more than 1 year of U.S coalition bombing in Raqqa, France suddenly found 20 highly important military targets in a relatively small city like Raqqa just in one night? Seriously, who are they fooling? Themselves or the world?

And if we assume France actually targeted IS military positions in Raqqa, a question is raised, what the **** has U.S been doing in past year that France can arrive and suddenly find 20 important targets in the city? One of them are screwing around very badly.

Anyone not wanting the protection of the convention,is free not to follow it.
It is not a crime (up to a point) not signing the convention.
You may still be charged for crime vs humanity.

And where is your source of the 100s of thousand killed by the French?
The majority of the Algerians killed, were killed by the FLN...

I do agree that a few sorties will not make a big dent into ISIS.
Destroying the oil production/delivery, and reducing revenue seem promising though.

 

[Daneshmand]

Good flying French pilots.

But I have to agree that without ground operations. no real tangible objective can be achieved.

French army is too small for that at roughly 100,000 strength. They will have to bring draft to be able to do such a thing. And US has categorically rejected the proposal of ground operations with Obama yesterday saying so.

 

[waz]

French army is too small for that at roughly 100,000 strength. They will have to bring draft to be able to do such a thing. And US has categorically rejected the proposal of ground operations with Obama yesterday saying so.

Pakistan managed to do it with similar forces bro, although that was from many years of fighting insurgency.

The Legion is well trained in desert warfare and have had an excellent run in Mali etc. The regular forces can supplement.

As for Obama, well, I'm not sure how he aims to tackle them.