From France with love : French Air Force carried out "massive" airstrikes against ISIS in Raqqah

[Mitro]

It's just a face saving for French by bombing fake target if they already knew then why wait for some tragedy to happen it's all bullshit .

 

[Alshawi1234]

France needs to stop supporting "moderate" terrorists in syria and take care of its own terrorist preaching saudi funded mosques inside France. 1000+ people from france travelled to join IS.

Besides the coalition has been targeting Raqqa for months now, they neutralized just about every target they know of, I doubt they have the intelligence to report so many targets at once, God knows what the French Air Force. Either that or the coalition has been intentionaly taking it easy on IS for the past year or so.

 

[Vergennes]

It's just a face saving for French by bombing fake target if they already knew then why wait for some tragedy to happen it's all bullshit .

I didn't know you were in a Rafale or MD2000 or even in a command center conducting the operations. It's amazing how some persons on PDF seem to know more than us about what we are doing.

- ISIS conducts terrorism against a country (In example France charlie hebdo)
- France bombs ISIS positions, not making a significant change over ISIS's strength.
- France doesn't want to conduct a ground operation fearing public reaction against casualties.
- ISIS conducts terrorism again in France (Paris attacks)
- France bombs ISIS positions, not making a significant change over ISIS's strength.
- France doesn't want to conduct a ground operation fearing public reaction against casualties.

ISIS will again conduct terrorism in France or in another Western country in the future. Yeah, you feared a ground operation because of casualties but by not doing a ground operation and annihilating ISIS, you are giving casualties to their terrorism indirectly....

Vicious cycle.

@FrenchPilot

If France decides to go on the ground,it would be with NATO allies,as the US did to "evict" the Talibans.
We have to hit them hard without stopping,we have to hit what gives them money,such as oil refineries etc..
As for this conflict,now i would want everyone to contribute on the fight against ISIS,even if we have differences with others we should unite and fight them. (Didn't US and allies ally to the USSR to defeat the Germans ? )
This war is too bloody,and after defeating the terrorists,we should find a politic compromise about Bashar's future. (He isn't an Angel,wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy from that,but better him on power than Baghdadi no ? )

 

[Serpentine]

I think someone needs to look into the Geneva conventions.
They are not applicable in conflicts where one of the parties did not sign.
The Daesh have clearly shown that they do not honour the convention,
which means that laws of war are no longer applicable.

The French can now bomb at random.

France signed Geneva convention.

France killed hundreds of thousands of Algerians who had done absolutely no harm to France as a country except wanting their country back.

Let's kill French randomly, as convention is not applicable.

See? You can say that for many others.

Bombing ISIS only from the air is not going to destroy them.

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So, after more than 1 year of U.S coalition bombing in Raqqa, France suddenly found 20 highly important military targets in a relatively small city like Raqqa just in one night? Seriously, who are they fooling? Themselves or the world?

And if we assume France actually targeted IS military positions in Raqqa, a question is raised, what the **** has U.S been doing in past year that France can arrive and suddenly find 20 important targets in the city? One of them are screwing around very badly.

 

[-SINAN-]

If France decides to go on the ground,it would be with NATO allies,as the US did to "evict" the Talibans.
We have to hit them hard without stopping,we have to hit what gives them money,such as oil refineries etc..
As for this conflict,now i would want everyone to contribute on the fight against ISIS,even if we have differences with others we should unite and fight them. (Didn't US and allies ally to the USSR to defeat the Germans ? )

Yeah, we are telling this for months...If we are going to conduct a ground operation against every NATO member should share the burden.

Davutoğlu told reporters in Ankara, suggesting thatTurkey could be involved in a ground incursion if it is part of a coordinated action with the international community.

“The international community must definitely find a solution to the crisis in Syria. If a need arises for an action, Turkey will do its share together with the international community,” he said.

He emphasized, however, that Turkey will not hesitate to take action if it is faced with a threat. “Right now, there is no such situation in regards to Syria. If such a need arises, we already have every preparations and measures in place,” he said.

Turkish PM says no plan for ground operation in Syria | EL Etos

We are ready it's US and EU who should make their desicion.

This war is too bloody,and after defeating the terrorists,we should find a politic compromise about Bashar's future. (He isn't an Angel,wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy from that,but better him on power than Baghdadi no ? )

In that issue, I don't think Syrian people's only option is either Assad or Bagdadi.....

France signed Geneva convention.

France killed hundreds of thousands of Algerians who had done absolutely no harm to France as a country.

Let's kill French randomly, as general convention is not applicable.

See? You can say that for many others.

Bombing ISIS only from the air is not going to destroy them.

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So, after more than 1 year of U.S coalition bombing in Raqqa, France suddenly found 20 highly important military targets in a relatively small city like Raqqa just in one night? Seriously, who are they fooling? Themselves or the world?

And if we assume France actually targeted IS military positions in Raqqa, a question is raised, what the **** has U.S been doing in past year that France can arrive and suddenly find 20 important targets in the city? One of them are screwing around very badly.

France at the moment is saying to it's citizens..."Hey look, ISIS killed our people, we are killing theirs. We are getting our revenge."

Can Holland say "We defeated ISIS and there will be no terrorists acts of ISIS in France " ???.....No, he can't.

 

[ultron]

We are ready it's US and EU who should make their desicion.

Sun Tzu says, War is a matter of life and death. If Erdogan don't want to die, then he better not start war.

 

[-SINAN-]

Sun Tzu says, War is a matter of life and death. If Erdogan don't want to die, then he better not start war.

War with whom ?

 

[Vergennes]

So, after more than 1 year of U.S coalition bombing in Raqqa, France suddenly found 20 highly important military targets in a relatively small city like Raqqa just in one night? Seriously, who are they fooling? Themselves or the world?

And if we assume France actually targeted IS military positions in Raqqa, a question is raised, what the **** has U.S been doing in past year that France can arrive and suddenly find 20 important targets in the city? One of them are screwing around very badly.

We are conducting everyweek reconnaissance missions over Syria and Iraq to designate targets,but tell us more,it seems you know what our air force is doing. Are you Lanata ?
It is funny.... an Iranian telling us "Who are they fooling".

 

[Echo_419]

As long as ISIL has support from the local population(s) on the ground, their numbers will never run out.

It's good to hit their command and control (and other infrastructure) though so they are less effective. But that's only a temporary solution, it seems things will only get worse in the foreseeable future, regardless of anyone's policy or intervention, or lack of it.

Instability breeds violence, it will take several generations before this extremism will start to reduce.

I agree but don't you think at this moment killing everyone present in IS territory is justified ?

 

[Serpentine]

We are conducting everyweek reconnaissance missions over Syria and Iraq to designate targets,but tell us more,it seems you know what our air force is doing. Are you Lanata ?
It is funny.... an Iranian telling us "Who are they fooling".

I don't understand your emotional reaction, I asked a legitimate question: Either U.S or France are trying to fool the world. After more than 1 year of bombing 'high value ISIS targets' in Raqqa and around by U.S, France finds 20 important targets for one single night. Either U.S sucked so bad (or ignored) in finding the targets or France is just trying to appease its people by saying: Hey look, we are bombing them back, we are taking 'revenge'.

Nothing personal, I am asking a question, no need to target my nationality for answering.

 

[xenon54 out]

The Airstrikes are being done with intelligence work since no ground troops, so what are the possibilities of getting intelligence without having troops on the ground? Most is probably done by using local informants but who says those informants are reliable? You can hit the obvious targets such as infrastructure but what about secret hideouts and weapon depots?
Airstrikes alone wont success much i guess, not with a highly agile guerilla tactic enemy.

 

[-SINAN-]

War with Arabs. If Turkish soldiers set foot in Syria, it would start war with Arabs. I remind you. Turks are from Mongolia. They are new comers to the ME. Please tread carefully, especially in regards with Arabs who are the creators of Islam.

 

[Serpentine]

One of Ahrar al-Sham leaders in Homs province released a statement supporting Paris attacks.

Now why is this important? This group is supported heavily by French allies, Saudis, Qatar and also Turkey. 'Moderate' terrorists of course. But France should know, instead of launching airstrikes mostly for show, you should address the root of this ideology, look what your 'allies' are cooking. But it doesn't matter, as long as they buy billions of dollar of random stuff from France.

 

[-SINAN-]

I don't understand your emotional reaction, I asked a legitimate question: Either U.S or France are trying to fool the world. After more than 1 year of bombing 'high value ISIS targets' in Raqqa and around by U.S, France finds 20 important targets for one single night. Either U.S sucked so bad (or ignored) in finding the targets or France is just trying to appease its people by saying: Hey look, we are bombing them back, we are taking 'revenge'.

Nothing personal, I am asking a question, no need to target my nationality for answering.

Does it matter if France bombed 20 high valued targets and killed dozens of terrorists or bombed empty areas ???

What does it matter ? US killed thousands of terrorists in Kobane.....Kurds managed to get back Kobane. So, ISIS still at large most probably recruited new members for it's loses.

So, it is still "Hey look, we are bombing them back, we are taking 'revenge'." as bombing ISIS positions is not an comprehensive strategy against it.

One of Ahrar al-Sham leaders in Homs province released a statement supporting Paris attacks.

Now why is this important? This group is supported heavily by French allies, Saudis, Qatar and also Turkey. 'Moderate' terrorists of course. But France should know, instead of launching airstrikes mostly for show, you should address the root of this ideology, look what your 'allies' are cooking. But it doesn't matter, as long as they buy billions of dollar of random stuff from France.

What is the translation ? Can any Arab member translate this statement ?

Never mind.

Labib al-Nahhas, Ahrar al-Sham’s Chief of Foreign Political Relations, condemned the Islamic State’s (IS) November 13, 2015 terror attacks in Paris, and stated that Syrians have suffered similarly under attacks from the Assad regime.

In a series of four English-language tweets, Nahhas called the Paris attacks “despicable” and compared them to those attacks suffered by the Syrian people under the Assad regime:

(1/4) The only possible reaction to the despicable acts of terror in Paris is total and unequivocal condemnation. #ParisAttacks

(2/4) Syrians suffered terrorism at hands of Assad's war machine for 4.5 years. We know how it feels. #ParisAttacks

(3/4) Terrorism is an indivisible whole: Assad cannot create Daesh in Syria and then help in the global war against terror. #ParisAttacks

After his comparison, Nahhas followed up that the international community needs to “take a hard look” at its partners in the war on terror:

(4/4) The Int. community should take a hard look at its policies in Syria and carefully choose partners in war on terror #ParisAttacks

Ahrar al-Sham Official Calls Paris Attacks “Despicable,” Compares to Syrian Situation | Jihadist News

أبو عز الدين (@LabibAlNahhas) | Twitter

 

[ultron]

One of Ahrar al-Sham leaders in Homs province released a statement supporting Paris attacks.

Now why is this important? This group is supported heavily by French allies, Saudis, Qatar and also Turkey. 'Moderate' terrorists of course. But France should know, instead of launching airstrikes mostly for show, you should address the root of this ideology, look what your 'allies' are cooking. But it doesn't matter, as long as they buy billions of dollar of random stuff from France.

Isn't Ahrar as Sham a Qaeda affiliate?

Ahrar ash-Sham - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia