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From France with love : French Air Force carried out "massive" airstrikes against ISIS in Raqqah

Bunch of BS, you just bombed Iraq Kurds, which PM called a blatant violation of Iraq's sovereignty.

You don't bomb the house of your friends.

And we are looking upon a foreigner from hundreds miles away, whom read a few articles written by his media, acting like a foreign specialist. :)


First of all, We are not conduct a war on Kurds but PKK.

First i need to educate you one factions.

PKK: A terrorist organization which is listed as a terrorist organization internationally by several states and organizations, including the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) and the European Union.
YPG: Extension of PKK in Syria. Has links with PKK. You can liken it like Al-Qaeda <> Al-Nusra
KRG: Kurdish Regional Government in Iraq. Which has excellent ties with Turkey. Their units trained by Turkey and still being trained by Turkey in Erbil. Their commander "Kahraman Kemal" said that 7. Peshmerga battalion liberated Sinjar from Daesh thanks to the their urban warfare training which has been received from TUrkish officers in Erbil.
Peşmerge Komutanı General Kahraman: Sokak Savaşını Türklerden Öğrendik


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The Friends that France is arming responded the the Paris attack

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Then I answered that already here but your assertion that there are no troops on the ground is still invalid.
Just because you don't know about something does not mean it doesn't exist.

Good day, Tay.

My question was directed towards FrenchPilot and unfortunately even you could not properly answer with an adequate response. Please provide evidence to the general audience of this thread that French troops are already on the ground in Syria, because otherwise writing garlic nonsense will fool no one. Why is my assertion invalid, when every news channel and the propaganda media of ISIS would send signals to the entire world, that French troops have landed in Syria and are fighting on the ground. Even the United States of America cannot mobilize troops detachment to a foreign conflict zone within 4 days of a terrorists attack and you expect us to believe that the incompetent French can do better. You need to except the factoid that France has a strategy just to bomb Syria and that too on flimsy intelligence reports on legitimate targets, where most of the casualty is civilian.
 
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And we are looking upon a foreigner from hundreds miles away, whom read a few articles written by his media, acting like a foreign specialist.
Even if you were right, instead of mouthing off, just disprove my analysis?

There are no "Daesh trucks" passing to Turkey. If you say otherwise present your proof.
Yes that must be why in the last few days the US claims 125-150 oil trucks destroyed and Russia 500, right?
Where do you think those trucks unload? Uzbekistan? The Syrian coast is barred so ... Lebanon? Israel???
The rest of the region is drowning in that black stuff so not clients.
U.S. Airstrikes Target Islamic State Oil Assets - WSJ
Russian jets 'hunting' IS oil tanker trucks: defence ministry - Yahoo News

I hope, you won't talk about the subjects that you have no clue about it, from now on.
... and the caravan moves on!


Please provide evidence to the general audience of this thread that French troops are already on the ground in Syria, because otherwise writing garlic nonsense will fool no one.

If you don't understand that there are troops which cannot be confirmed, any convo is useless.

Even the United States of America cannot mobilize troops detachment to a foreign conflict zone within 4 days of a terrorists attack and you expect us to believe that the incompetent French can do better.

LOL You just went full frontal facepalm :

Mali!
I'm sorry to say both of you seem to have bigger agendas than means to carry them out.
Good luck with that, Tay.
 
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Really, and who is providing arms, money, shelter to them? GCC. If the world leans hard on your @sses, ISIS, al quaida, all, will disappear over night and peace will reign again...France was attacked when she became friend with the GCC monarchies and start differentiating terrorists between the good one (Syria) that she armed, and the bad one (Mali) that she fought....

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Its very easy to blame everything on west. And do it if it makes you happy and help you relieve your pain. But 2,50,000 including 30000 children are killed either by fsa, isis or assad till now.
 
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Yes that must be why in the last few days the US claims 125-150 oil trucks destroyed and Russia 500, right?
Where do you think those trucks unload? Uzbekistan? The Syrian coast is barred so ... Lebanon? Israel???
The rest of the region is drowning in that black stuff so not clients.
U.S. Airstrikes Target Islamic State Oil Assets - WSJ
Russian jets 'hunting' IS oil tanker trucks: defence ministry - Yahoo News

Trucks get destroyed in Syria. But you can deduce that "They were ISIS oil carrying trucks which were let into Turkey by Turkish officials......Maybe they are selling Assad, maybe to US. No but it has to be Turkey. let's throw mud on Turkey because everybody does....

Even if you were right, instead of mouthing off, just disprove my analysis?
I will do both. :drag:

Bunch of BS, you just bombed Iraq Kurds, which PM called a blatant violation of Iraq's sovereignty.

You don't bomb the house of your friends.
Keep lying... where is your source ? You are just a liar.
 
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Even if you were right, instead of mouthing off, just disprove my analysis?


Yes that must be why in the last few days the US claims 125-150 oil trucks destroyed and Russia 500, right?
Where do you think those trucks unload? Uzbekistan? The Syrian coast is barred so ... Lebanon? Israel???
The rest of the region is drowning in that black stuff so not clients.
U.S. Airstrikes Target Islamic State Oil Assets - WSJ
Russian jets 'hunting' IS oil tanker trucks: defence ministry - Yahoo News


... and the caravan moves on!




If you don't understand that there are troops which cannot be confirmed, any convo is useless.



LOL You just went full frontal facepalm :

Mali!
I'm sorry to say both of you seem to have bigger agendas than means to carry them out.
Good luck with that, Tay.

My friend,don't feed the trolls and the disrespectful persons.....
Why don't you just let him bark ? (I talk about rasengan je sais pas quoi...)
If you let them bark it will be better for the forum and us.
 
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If you don't understand that there are troops which cannot be confirmed, any convo is useless..

So the conversation becomes useless if the opposing side has a difference of opinion...bravo the hypocrisy of French free-thinking is amazing and I am sure Voltaire would be rolling in his grave:) Writing something in a message does not automatically mean that your statement becomes true and If French troops are in Syria and it cannot be confirmed then how exactly do you know this information. Did you use legilimency on a French General where he advocated all French State secrets? Use logical sense rather than your sensitive emotions which concocts distorted myths.

LOL You just went full frontal facepalm :

Mali!
I'm sorry to say both of you seem to have bigger agendas than means to carry them out.
Good luck with that, Tay.

Seriously are you schizophrenic because the topic of this thread concerns Syria and has nothing to do with Mali. Read my message with meticulous care next time otherwise you will look ignorant and French involvement in Mali did not occur within four days of the conflict. If you find this sentence too difficult to understand then go and find an Anglais Teacher who can translate for you:) Your last sentence makes no sense, because why would I have an agenda when this is a forum to discuss issues. Seriously the education system of France has become very pathetic, because people have loss the ability to argue properly in a debate.

My friend,don't feed the trolls and the disrespectful persons.....
Why don't you just let him bark ? (I talk about rasengan je sais pas quoi...)
If you let them bark it will be better for the forum and us.

You should not speak from your rear end, because you sound undignified and obviously you are spineless in nature since you cannot provide a counter-argument. The forum rules have stated quite clearly that members of this forum need to write in English:) I can feel your frustration which brings me tremendous amusement, however you should calm down before your blood pressure rises. So when will you send in ground troops into Syria:)?
 
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Its very easy to blame everything on west. And do it if it makes you happy and help you relieve your pain. But 2,50,000 including 30000 children are killed either by fsa, isis or assad till now.
You need to read before you answer...
No..Those dead are the results of NATO, France in particular, GB, USA, GCC being deeply involved in Syria ...All those dead for a pipeline that Syria refused thru her territory..Same case for Afghanistan...Case closed!

So when will you send in ground troops into Syria:)?
The Tchadiens and the Senegalese troops are both farmed out to the Sauds in Yemen...so the answer to that: they don't have any troops to send anywhere, since the 10,000 or so available are patrolling the street of Paris, since their police force is overwhelmed...and furthermore they don't have the balls, since most of ISIS are Europeans, they are not Bantous , Malens or Selekas. that France like to whip up on..
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You need to read before you answer...
No..Those dead are the results of NATO, France in particular, GB, USA, GCC being deeply involved in Syria ...All those dead for a pipeline that Syria refused thru her territory..Same case for Afghanistan...Case closed!


The Tchadiens and the Senegalese troops are both farmed out to the Sauds in Yemen...so the answer to that: they don't have any troops to send anywhere, since the 10,000 or so available are patrolling the street of Paris, since their police force is overwhelmed...and furthermore they don't have the balls, since most of ISIS are Europeans, they are not Bantous , Malens or Selekas. that France like to whip up on..
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thanks for closing the case. I was unable to continue with you. you are really funny, brother.
 
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The Tchadiens and the Senegalese troops are both farmed out to the Sauds in Yemen...so the answer to that: they don't have any troops to send anywhere, since the 10,000 or so available are patrolling the street of Paris, since their police force is overwhelmed...and furthermore they don't have the balls, since most of ISIS are Europeans, they are not Bantous , Malens or Selekas. that France like to whip up on..
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France will never have the stomach to send troops into Syria, unless a coalition force is established to fight against ISIS. Nearly 10% of French troops are patrolling the streets of Paris and this will continue for several months to reassure the civilian population. In a hypothetical scenario lets imagine Hollande does order French troops to land in Syria, can the political class of France persuade the civilian population to accept the high causality rates borne from the conflict. ISIS is a demented organization, however their experience in warfare and geographical knowledge of the local area provides them an advantage to cause heavy damage, henceforth all western governments are hesitant to send in troops. Furthermore, the cost of such an adventure will be exceedingly high and no possible solutions is on the table. Only only option used by France which is a face-saving act is to bomb Syria.
 
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Simple reason why everybody is pointing fingers at Turkey is it is truth. It is a fact that Turkey supports, funds and benefits from ISIS, buy the illegal stolen oil at $5 a barrel...

Trucks get destroyed in Syria. But you can deduce that "They were ISIS oil carrying trucks which were let into Turkey by Turkish officials......Maybe they are selling Assad, maybe to US. No but it has to be Turkey. let's throw mud on Turkey because everybody does....


I will do both. :drag:


Keep lying... where is your source ? You are just a liar.
 
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Simple reason why everybody is pointing fingers at Turkey is it is truth. It is a fact that Turkey supports, funds and benefits from ISIS, buy the illegal stolen oil at $5 a barrel...
Lie all day long baby. It won't change the facts.
 
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Seriously the education system of France has become very pathetic, because people have loss the ability to argue properly in a debate.
LOL Lessons in education from someone whose every post includes demeaning phrases? I don’t think so! :disagree:
But you may be right that I was not explicit enough in my rebuke which I will now attempt to correct as gently as I can.

You do not express yourself precisely military-wise, either because of lack of understanding, of willingness to do so or voluntarily and that’s not for me to judge. The fact remains that it makes a useful conversation impossible. Being open to discussion is one thing, losing one’s time for naught another, regardless of the cause.
For example, do you mean troops period or an invasion force specifically? The former is already true no matter what cute little flaming you’ll do attempting to throw discredit on my sourcing from your comfortable position of being nobody either by your own definition. Gander, goose, that sort of thing? By the way, it’s thousands and not hundreds of kilometers away.
And if you mean an invasion force, it seems strange that you’d suggest that when the rest of your tone is that of a takfiri advocate! Going down full invasion would then put France in line for more attacks later by the next generation of “victims”, would it not?

You also express yourself with gall, anger and disrespect. If I was to continue talking to you, I’d have to go down to your level which I honestly find incorrect for a gentleman and thus unacceptable. That attitude alone shows that you are neither a military man nor a politician as it would get you ousted. In fact, if you speak like that in real life, I pity your relations.
you sound undignified and obviously you are spineless in nature since you cannot provide a counter-argument. The forum rules have stated quite clearly that members of this forum need to write in English:)
That points to another flaw, namely logic! You point the finger at French Pilot for having used French ( I don’t know what/which/why is what he said ). Fine but you should know there are regular posts with Urdu OFC and Punjabi and that management is quite ( correctly IMHoO ) relaxed about that rule if there is no ill-intent present. So your childish insults and pseudo-dominant tone is OK but a minor lapse worthy of reprimand? This makes me think that you might be dishonest to boot and correlates with the first part.

Then, you come up with untruths that you pose as blocks of verity while asking others to provide proof.
Seriously are you schizophrenic because the topic of this thread concerns Syria and has nothing to do with Mali.

Except maybe to answer this untruth that you repeated later :


Even the United States of America cannot mobilize troops detachment to a foreign conflict zone within 4 days of a terrorists attack and you expect us to believe that the incompetent French can do better.
French involvement in Mali did not occur within four days of the conflict.
You can't remember what you wrote and call others schizos???

France was in Mali in literally hours not 4 days.
Mali : Traoré demande une aide militaire de la France - Libération
France confirms Mali military intervention - BBC News
France suffers first loss in Mali air strikes - France - Mali - RFI
Demand, acceptation and first fire all on January 11 2013.

Your above remark is thus pure unadulterated BS ... twice.
That also links you to one of your supporters' explanation :
She failed in Mali. It was the Algerian peace treaty sidned by all the belligerants and the Malian central government that gave a different outcome of that area.
It is mostly the Tchadiens that bore the brunt of the fight, not your soldiers and certainly not the french legion.
Sure! That makes sense! Mali could not win alone; the illegitimate government was on the verge of being overthrown. France was called in ( Why not Chad directly since they’re so good and much closer? ) and came but it was really those same Malians and Chadians that won the war. Please explain why they did not do so earlier without external help! Bad timing? The ridicule of such constructions is testimony that they were not built to work and make sense but to impress and muddle.

Under the light of which, one is more than authorized to wonder if this is but your “normal” personality or if the similarity between the processes on various levels reveals intent, heretofore an “agenda”, not a will to exchange sincerely?
For those reasons, unwilling to misjudge you and yet wanting to avoid useless virtual conflagration, I’ll let you wander on hence.

Of course, I may have to drop a line here and there ( always with a link so you need not get huffy ) to correct your l... let’s call them imprecisions!

With that, good day for the last time hopefully and best of luck, Tay.
 
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