From France with love : French Air Force carried out "massive" airstrikes against ISIS in Raqqah

[Rasengan]

LOL Lessons in education from someone whose every post includes demeaning phrases? I don’t think so!
But you may be right that I was not explicit enough in my rebuke which I will now attempt to correct as gently as I can.

I can consume a whole bowl of alphabet soup and excrete out a much better response and I can sense your frustration, although its expected from a Frenchmen who has failed to reach puberty and hypocrisy runs in his blood. The education system of France must be atrocious or standards have deteriorated significantly, since its institutions are churning out student who fail to grasp the concept of counter-arguing the opposition. Why exactly are you offended by my demeaning phrases, when French culture revolves around the freedom to insult

You do not express yourself precisely military-wise, either because of lack of understanding, of willingness to do so or voluntarily and that’s not for me to judge. The fact remains that it makes a useful conversation impossible. Being open to discussion is one thing, losing one’s time for naught another, regardless of the cause..

Your elucidation is full of imaginary conjectures and its arrogant for you to presume the notion that your understanding of military practices is far superior than mine, when you have failed to evidently prove the involvement of French troops in Syria Why have you retorted back to my correspondence like a simpleton robotic drone, if you find the current conversation a loss cause, because the initiation of our first exchange of dialogue was started by you FrenchPilot can defend his own opinion and does not require you to hold his hands.

For example, do you mean troops period or an invasion force specifically? The former is already true no matter what cute little flaming you’ll do attempting to throw discredit on my sourcing from your comfortable position of being nobody either by your own definition. gander, goose, that sort of thing. By the way, it’s thousands and not hundreds of kilometers away.
And if you mean an invasion force, it seems strange that you’d suggest that when the rest of your tone is that of a takfiri advocate! Going down full invasion would then put France in line for more attacks later by the next generation of “victims”, would it not?.

The sole purpose of this forum is to discuss issues and provide evidence towards your statement when making outlandish theories. Furthermore, you have failed rather spectacularly to source evidence to prove that French troops do exists in Syria. In a hypothetical scenario lets assume your proposition is correct because you have some source within the military circles of France, then the act of treason has transpired since state secrets written on a public forum is forbidden. I have no reputation in France and you are correct in your assumption, however why would I give a damn when officials in Pakistan and China recognize my services. Where exactly did I mention in my previous messages that the distance between France and Syria was hundreds of kilometers away? Again you must have a split personality disorder. Prove to the general audience of this thread that I am a takfiri advocate, because writing gibberish nonsense will not automatically mean your statement is correct. Furthermore, you are a typical hypocrite because in Islam takfiri is a demeaning phrase and accusing someone with such a title without evidence is a grave injustice and offence. Your moral standards went down the toilet Bombing cities across Syria and killing innocent civilians will never resolve the problem, in fact the cycle of hatred will continue onto the next generation and this was proven in Afghanistan. France must have the balls to conducts a full invasion of areas in Syria controlled by ISIS, because strategic bombing will never weaken them and instead ISIS will have all the tools in recruiting fresh graduates. Syrian civilian blood is not cheaper than French blood, where their life is forfeited by French military aircraft bombs.

You also express yourself with gall, anger and disrespect. If I was to continue talking to you, I’d have to go down to your level which I honestly find incorrect for a gentleman and thus unacceptable. That attitude alone shows that you are neither a military man nor a politician as it would get you ousted. In fact, if you speak like that in real life, I pity your relations.

You have fundamentally exhibited the same characteristic flaws mentioned in your post. First you have illogically accused me of having an hidden agenda, then you have the nerve to call me a takfiri advocate which is profoundly frowned upon in Islam in accusing another person without evidence. Now you are arrogant to presume the assumption that I am neither a military man nor a politician and I would be ousted for my views. I was the first Pakistani to work for the Agricultural Bank of China in its financial leasing department and in the next coming months I am on the verge of convincing two different hydro-power companies to invest into Pakistan and relocate their factories into the new industrial zone. In addition, a Chinese State-Owned Enterprise in the railway sector is interested to upgrade the out-dated railway infrastructure of Pakistan. Therefore, I personally don't give a flying hoot in your opinions and you should not be concerned on the topic of how I conduct my relations with other people. This is an internet online forum and I have no interests in making friends except for some of the Chinese members who have fondly reminded me of their cities in which I have the pleasure to visit and live their.

 

[ultron]

Why don't they ask Bashar to use the Hama air base? Raqqa is too far from the Mediterranean for Rafale.

 

[MilSpec]

True but that's not the reason here! French RoE are quite restrictive esp. vs some US practices.
It seems they were just loosened. I'd expect one more 8-10 ACs run before the CDG can launch
additional ones. The Mindef communique gives 10 out of 12 available jets out that night, good ratio.

I wouldn't be surprised if a big night with most jets out of Chammal and the incorporated CDG striking.
A second big one with your guys could chinch it. A long air conflict hitting all Daesh sites would mean
merging with Russians aircrafts a bit too close and and a tragic error occurring.
It's also important to remember that as of now, ground ops are only possible with the Kurdish Resistance
from the North at least until the most violent elections in history muddle the situation enough to make
them impractical.

Full invasion of Syria would be too costly and nukes are deemed a bit much.


Rare trolling moment that is actually but sarcastic humour :
AH! If true, that would make targeting so much simpler!



Come on Mahmoud! Not you too?
Check Opération Barkhane which I wouldn't be surprised Egypt is secretly part of, my man.

Lights off, Tay.

More power to rafales and Mirages, obliterate as many scumbags as you can. cheers!

 

[Rasengan]

That points to another flaw, namely logic! You point the finger at French Pilot for having used French ( I don’t know what/which/why is what he said ). Fine but you should know there are regular posts with Urdu OFC and Punjabi and that management is quite ( correctly IMHoO ) relaxed about that rule if there is no ill-intent present. So your childish insults and pseudo-dominant tone is OK but a minor lapse worthy of reprimand? This makes me think that you might be dishonest to boot and correlates with the first part..

FrenchPilot is spineless in nature because he refuses to answer my legitimate questions and instead he mentions my name and writes in French, which can be interpreted as ill-intent since he proclaims that I bark in my messages. Why did you not reprimand him for using demeaning phrases or does duplicity run in your veins One of the rules of this forum is to write in English sentences and if you don't believe me ask the management team.

Except maybe to answer this untruth that you repeated later :



You can't remember what you wrote and call others schizos???

France was in Mali in literally hours not 4 days.
Mali : Traoré demande une aide militaire de la France - Libération
France confirms Mali military intervention - BBC News
France suffers first loss in Mali air strikes - France - Mali - RFI
Demand, acceptation and first fire all on January 11 2013.

Your above remark is thus pure unadulterated BS ... twice.
That also links you to one of your supporters' explanation :

The Mali conflict was initiated in 2012 and France became involved in 2013, therefore they had a whole year to decide on whether to intervene.

 

[rubyjackass]

I think someone needs to look into the Geneva conventions.
They are not applicable in conflicts where one of the parties did not sign.
The Daesh have clearly shown that they do not honour the convention,
which means that laws of war are no longer applicable.

The French can now bomb at random.

I don't know the exact words of Geneva convention. But people expect all countries to follow it, so it looks like it is applicable for everyone. Otherwise how would anyone bring charges against say Israel?

 

[Taygibay]

I'll answer that which is important and then let it go as said before :

Prove to the general audience of this thread that I am a takfiri advocate, because writing gibberish nonsense will not automatically mean your statement is correct. Furthermore, you are a typical hypocrite because in Islam takfiri is a demeaning phrase and accusing someone with such a title without evidence is a grave injustice and offence.

I did not directly accuse you of being one :

your tone is that of a takfiri advocate!

Why did you not reprimand him for using demeaning phrases or does duplicity run in your veins

For the same reason I did not reprimand or report you either,
namely the hope that people can be persuaded to get better. Last resort measures, etc.
Besides, your attacks and this thread being on France, I'd rather that someone neutral deal with it in all fairness.
We have a fine moderating team on PDF.

Bye, Tay.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

I don't know the exact words of Geneva convention. But people expect all countries to follow it, so it looks like it is applicable for everyone. Otherwise how would anyone bring charges against say Israel?

Yes, people, and especially Journalists seems to have no clue about this issue.
What they "expect" has nothing to do with International "Law".
Relations between states are governed by agreements, not by law.
Once You sign an agreement, you are bound by it.
You are not legally bound by the Geneva Convention in conflicts with non-signees.

Other things people believe are illegal (but are not according to the Geneva Conventions)
* Use of White Phosphorus on civilians
* Boarding Blockade runners on International Waters
* Killing Civilians
* Bombing Hospitals
* Attacking Ambulances

All of these may or may not be legal, depending on circumstances,
but I think "people" believe that they are illegal.

Islamists Fighters which are motivated by Martyrdom, have zero protection under the Geneva
convention, since anyone receiving special benefits are considered "Mercenaries".
"Mercenaries" are not protected by the Geneva Convention.
An ordinary soldier, receiving monthly wages, according to his/her rank does not count as "Mercenaries"

As far as I know, noone has brought charges vs Israel except courts inside Israel.
The Israeli Supreme Court sometimes rules for and sometimes against.
Since Palestinians did not sign the Geneva Conventions until recently,
I doubt that an independent court could convict Israel.

That said, sometimes lawyers can come up with real strange conclusions.