Featured F-16.net confirms Su-30MKI loss on 27th Feb

[Prince Kassad]

USA didn’t denied! It was a journalist named Lara Seligman with contacts in PAF that spread this fake news! US DoD absolutely denied having counted PAF F-16s. It’s clear that a F-16 being shot down by a MiG-21 is embarrassing for Lockheed-Martin’s business, just like those shot down by Mirage-2000 and MiG-29 during the Kargil war. Why do you think Bill Clinton insisted so much that both sides classify all the A2A kills of the Kargil conflict and why PAF engaged into purchasing all the F-16 available as new or 2nd hand in the 3–4 next years while, how funny, PAF inventory stood at 76 F-16 despite acquisitions? Maybe even some MiG-21 already shot down a F-16 in 1999, but we’re unlikely to learn about before archives are unclassified, surey not before 2049AD, maybe 2074 or 2099…

 

[Tornado23]

USA didn’t denied! It was a journalist named Lara Seligman with contacts in PAF that spread this fake news! US DoD absolutely denied having counted PAF F-16s. It’s clear that a F-16 being shot down by a MiG-21 is embarrassing for Lockheed-Martin’s business, just like those shot down by Mirage-2000 and MiG-29 during the Kargil war. Why do you think Bill Clinton insisted so much that both sides classify all the A2A kills of the Kargil conflict and why PAF engaged into purchasing all the F-16 available as new or 2nd hand in the 3–4 next years while, how funny, PAF inventory stood at 76 F-16 despite acquisitions? Maybe even some MiG-21 already shot down a F-16 in 1999, but we’re unlikely to learn about before archives are unclassified, surey not before 2049AD, maybe 2074 or 2099…

That's all I have to say

 

[Raider 21]

USA didn’t denied! It was a journalist named Lara Seligman with contacts in PAF that spread this fake news! US DoD absolutely denied having counted PAF F-16s. It’s clear that a F-16 being shot down by a MiG-21 is embarrassing for Lockheed-Martin’s business, just like those shot down by Mirage-2000 and MiG-29 during the Kargil war. Why do you think Bill Clinton insisted so much that both sides classify all the A2A kills of the Kargil conflict and why PAF engaged into purchasing all the F-16 available as new or 2nd hand in the 3–4 next years while, how funny, PAF inventory stood at 76 F-16 despite acquisitions? Maybe even some MiG-21 already shot down a F-16 in 1999, but we’re unlikely to learn about before archives are unclassified, surey not before 2049AD, maybe 2074 or 2099…

Pakistan Air Force does not lie about their Viper losses. They are clear about it. Because if they can state they have lost an aircraft to friendly fire in the past, they have no issue in releasing info about aircraft such as any potential F-16 losses later on.

Dodging missiles to sport patches should show you the level of reduced professionalism the Indian Air Force has come down to.

 

[truthseeker2010]

Pakistan Air Force does not lie about their Viper losses. They are clear about it. Because if they can state they have lost an aircraft to friendly fire in the past, they have no issue in releasing info about aircraft such as any potential F-16 losses later on.

Dodging missiles to sport patches should show you the level of reduced professionalism the Indian Air Force has come down to.

If that was not enough, the formation flight on air force day of 2019 with a reported call sign same as that of 27 feb was shown to public to refute of claims of MKI loss.

 

[Tornado23]

If that was not enough, the formation flight on air force day of 2019 with a reported call sign same as that of 27 feb was shown to public to refute of claims of MKI loss.

The mkis in formation flight were different fighters to the one used in swift retort

 

[Windjammer]

The IAF Officially show a total of 11 Accidents and Losses of it's SU-30s listed.
Yet it ordered 12 more Flankers as attrition replacement.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

 

[Jungibaaz]

USA didn’t denied! It was a journalist named Lara Seligman with contacts in PAF that spread this fake news! US DoD absolutely denied having counted PAF F-16s. It’s clear that a F-16 being shot down by a MiG-21 is embarrassing for Lockheed-Martin’s business, just like those shot down by Mirage-2000 and MiG-29 during the Kargil war. Why do you think Bill Clinton insisted so much that both sides classify all the A2A kills of the Kargil conflict and why PAF engaged into purchasing all the F-16 available as new or 2nd hand in the 3–4 next years while, how funny, PAF inventory stood at 76 F-16 despite acquisitions? Maybe even some MiG-21 already shot down a F-16 in 1999, but we’re unlikely to learn about before archives are unclassified, surey not before 2049AD, maybe 2074 or 2099…

You’re going to look back at this a decade or two from now and realise how misled you were. We’ve been there regarding Kargil in the past, it’s your turn now. Some professionals among you will eventually spill the beans.

I can’t wait to see the next stage of your collective denialism.

 

[Windjammer]

The mkis in formation flight were different fighters to the one used in swift retort

The staged managed exercise in fact proved the delusional psyche of the Indian Air force and how they keep their public in a circus tent.
I mean did the IAF go into battle with just TWO SU-30s in it's inventory that it was showboating with same numbers afterwards.

 

[Osiris]

The IAF Officially show a total of 11 Accidents and Losses of it's SU-30s listed.
Yet it ordered 12 more Flankers as attrition replacement.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

Ya, because Indian assembly line churns out 12 Su 30 MKI in one year. To keep the assembly line active for another year, 12 is the minimum number Su 30 that needs to be ordered.

 

[SQ8]

You’re going to look back at this a decade or two from now and realise how misled you were. We’ve been there regarding Kargil in the past, it’s your turn now. Some professionals among you will eventually spill the beans.

I can’t wait to see the next stage of your collective denialism.

They’re a lost generation of fools we have no reason to engage or entertain anymore. I frankly ignore most PDF Indians now - we will NEVER see eye to eye because these cretins have no idea of what Pakistan is or who Pakistanis are beyond their self aggrandizing hypocrisy.

I was and am going to be continue to be proven right in my assertion of banning Indians from this site and any further interaction with them on defense matters.

 

[Osiris]

You’re going to look back at this a decade or two from now and realise how misled you were. We’ve been there regarding Kargil in the past, it’s your turn now. Some professionals among you will eventually spill the beans.

I can’t wait to see the next stage of your collective denialism.

This thread is a testament to the fact that, we are not the only ones being misled.

 

[Windjammer]

Ya, because Indian assembly line churns out 12 Su 30 MKI in one year. To keep the assembly line active for another year, 12 is the minimum number Su 30 that needs to be ordered.

Dude do you realise what you have stated....rather odd to say the least.
The capacity of an assembly line is one thing that it can produce X number each year but to say that even if you need say Three aircraft but you still need to make 12 sounds weird.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

USA didn’t denied! It was a journalist named Lara Seligman with contacts in PAF that spread this fake news! US DoD absolutely denied having counted PAF F-16s. It’s clear that a F-16 being shot down by a MiG-21 is embarrassing for Lockheed-Martin’s business, just like those shot down by Mirage-2000 and MiG-29 during the Kargil war. Why do you think Bill Clinton insisted so much that both sides classify all the A2A kills of the Kargil conflict and why PAF engaged into purchasing all the F-16 available as new or 2nd hand in the 3–4 next years while, how funny, PAF inventory stood at 76 F-16 despite acquisitions? Maybe even some MiG-21 already shot down a F-16 in 1999, but we’re unlikely to learn about before archives are unclassified, surey not before 2049AD, maybe 2074 or 2099…

Pakistani F16s are constantly monitored by USAF personals who are stationed in pakistan. Anyway usa does not need to physically count f16s cuz they are also electronically monitor3d.

 

[Osiris]

Dude do you realise what you have stated....rather odd to say the least.
The capacity of an assembly line is one thing that it can produce X number each year but to say that even if you need say Three aircraft but you still need to make 12 sounds weird.

When you want to keep an assembly line occupied.. before its resources can be diverted to next the aircraft (in this case Tejas MK1) .. it does not matter if you give an order for 11 aircrafts or 12.

This order could have easily fulfilled by Russian at an even cheaper price than HAL..but the primary reason Indian government with HAL because they did not want the the Nasik assembly line to sit idle.

 

[StormBreaker]

Dude do you realise what you have stated....rather odd to say the least.
The capacity of an assembly line is one thing that it can produce X number each year but to say that even if you need say Three aircraft but you still need to make 12 sounds weird.

He is partially right, And wrong at the same time.

It is not required for the assembly line to be occupied for 12 months, It can be occupied for 3 months as well.

Although he was coming from nowhere but what he meant might be the operational expenses.