Why Indian gov refuses to publish Rakhigarhi excavation's DNA results?

[Mamluk]

No updates on this for more than a year. There are rumors that all the samples tested have the y-dna haplogroup L-M20. No R1A1 - basically proving R1a1 is not local and Aryan invaders brought R1a1 (along with Vedic culture).

 

[KapitaanAli]

Everyone knows it except the revisionists.
Publishing anything won't change their minds.
Just move on.

Vedic philosophy deserves a position in India. Not an issue.

 

[war&peace]

Interesting...I guess their IVC dream / claim is getting shattered @Kaptaan

Hey @AUSTERLITZ you were claiming that DNA shows they are related to IVC but this reports tells a different story. Would you like to throw some light why Indian govt is reluctant in making the results public?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

No updates on this for more than a year. There are rumors that all the samples tested have the y-dna haplogroup L-M20. No R1A1 - basically proving R1a1 is not local and Aryan invaders brought R1a1 (along with Vedic culture).

There are two possibilities here -

• That the results show the Aryan invaders came from Central Asia and india is like South Africa. A tiny white, a small mixed group and huge 80% majority Blacks. In India's case a tiny Brahmin class, a small mixed UC [upper castes] and ocean of converted native aboriginals hiding under tags like Shudra and Dalit. This goes against Mata India concept. Thus the issue is pushed underneath the carpet.
  
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• That this was bombast designed to "photobomb" the IVC. The intention being to create publicity by linking IVC><India. Once that was done the issue is forgotten about.

 

[Ocean]

No updates on this for more than a year. There are rumors that all the samples tested have the y-dna haplogroup L-M20. No R1A1 - basically proving R1a1 is not local and Aryan invaders brought R1a1 (along with Vedic culture).

Lmao now @AUSTERLITZ will come and preach u since dholavira has biggest bath in all excavations done in india hence indians still own Ivc history Lmao

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Lmao now @AUSTERLITZ will come and preach u since dholavira has biggest bath in all excavations done in india hence indians still own Ivc history Lmao

Let us suppose you are right.
Why do you think current day India is the heir of aryans only ,even if such invasion/migration took place?We have always maintained we are a mixed people in general with several regions having dominance of particular racial types.These racial theories you pakistani trolls obsess over are so 19th century.Our history -the history of india is history of all these people,the collective experience of their past ,whether it be the north east,north india,east idnia,west india or south indian people.We accept both the greatness and failings of our history,unlike many of u lot who are so ashamed of being associated with 'hindu' history.And just for the fact if there is no r1a1 haplogroup as your 'suspicion' suggests it would also mean modern day pakistanis have no claim to IVC either ,as they are abundant in that.If you are wrong,you guys are just clutching at straws and getting excited over what could be a bureaucratic delay(routine stuff in india) -either way you have nothing celebrate about,lol.

 

[Mamluk]

Let us suppose you are right.
Why do you think current day India is the heir of aryans only ,even if such invasion/migration took place?We have always maintained we are a mixed people in general with several regions having dominance of particular racial types.These racial theories you pakistani trolls obsess over are so 19th century.Our history -the history of india is history of all these people,the collective experience of their past ,whether it be the north east,north india,east idnia,west india or south indian people.We accept both the greatness and failings of our history,unlike many of u lot who are so ashamed of being associated with 'hindu' history.And just for the fact if there is no r1a1 haplogroup as your 'suspicion' suggests it would also mean modern day pakistanis have no claim to IVC either ,as they are abundant in that.If you are wrong,you guys are just clutching at straws and getting excited over what could be a bureaucratic delay(routine stuff in india) -either way you have nothing celebrate about,lol.

So you agree R1a1 came from Central Asia. Basically Vedic religion was as foreign as Islam and caste system was brutally imposed on the locals.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

So you agree R1a1 came from Central Asia. Basically Vedic religion was as foreign as Islam and caste system was brutally imposed on the locals.

I agree on neither of these on your whim rather than evidence,even if the aryan invasion theory was true it wouldn't cause us to be afraid of our history.As i said we are now a mixed people and have been for thousands of years or more.This is true not just for India but a large number of great countries - Britain,france,russia,america,turkey,egypt,iran,Brazil,mexico etc.Do you think they are all shamed by their own history?Each of these nations is a result of intermixing of peoples and conquest.

The more important question is do you understand such R1a1 dat woul also mean modern day pakistanis loses claim to IVC?So what are you cheerleading about?

 

[Mamluk]

The more important question is do you understand such R1a1 dat woul also mean modern day pakistanis loses claim to IVC?So what are you cheerleading about?

R1a1 is not the only haplogroup in Pakistan. We also have the highest concentration of L-M20 in the world.

If frequency of a particular ydna is how you define "claim to IVC" - then guess what, we have far better claim to both IVC and Vedic history than you lot.

 

[Mamluk]

converted to Muslim

You gotta thank your Hindu deities that they did. Our non-Muslim ancestors were far more racist towards you tropical humans than we are.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

R1a1 is not the only haplogroup in Pakistan. We also have the highest concentration of L-M20 in the world.

If frequency of a particular ydna is how you define "claim to IVC" - then guess what, we have far better claim to both IVC and Vedic history than you lot.

High % only in balochistan.L-M20 is also high % among south indians,particularly tamilnadu and karnataka - the 'dravidians' that our dear kaptaan despises so much.And also amongst gujaratis.Like i said,either way you got nothing to celebrate.

 

[Mamluk]

High % only in balochistan.L-M20 is also high % among south indians,particularly tamilnadu and karnataka - the 'dravidians' that our dear kaptaan despises so much.And also amongst gujaratis.Like i said,either way you got nothing to celebrate.

What part of "highest concentration in Pakistan" did you not understand? Dravidans also have R1a1, that doesn't make them Aryans - it just means they got 'handled' by foreign men.

McElreavy and Quintana-Murci, writing on the Indus Valley Civilisation, state that:

"One Y-chromosome haplogroup (L-M20) has a high mean frequency of 14% in Pakistan and so differs from all other haplogroups in its frequency distribution. L-M20 is also observed, although at lower frequencies, in neighbouring countries, such as India, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and Russia. Both the frequency distribution and estimated expansion time (~7,000 YBP) of this lineage suggest that its spread in the Indus Valley may be associated with the expansion of local farming groups during the Neolithic period."[7]

1 International Society of Genetic Genealogy, 2015, Y-DNA Haplogroup Tree 2015 (30 May 2015).
2 to:a b Chiaroni, J.; Underhill, P. A.; Cavalli-Sforza, L. L. (December 2009). "Y chromosome diversity, human expansion, drift, and cultural evolution". Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. U.S.A. 106 (48): 20174–49. Bibcode:2009PNAS..10620174C. doi:10.1073/pnas.0910803106. JSTOR 25593348. PMC 2787129 

. PMID 19920170.
3 International Society of Genetic Genealogy, 2015 Y-DNA Haplogroup K and its Subclades – 2015 (5 April 2015).
7 K. McElreavy and L. Quintana-Murci (2005), A population genetics perspective of the Indus Valley through uniparentally-inherited markers

 

[Mamluk]

Lol, Paksitan really is a joke of a country. They have literally nothing to be proud of so they wanna' pretend to be some aryan race or some shit. Clutching at straws much?

Land of the pure, more like land of the confused.

I don't blame you for not understanding the topic. Rumor has it that caste and intelligence are correlated. Sadly you don't choose your caste.

 

[Dalai Lama]

I don't blame you for not understanding the topic. Rumor has it that caste and intelligence are correlated.

Rumours are just that, rumours. Intelligence is determined by variance, this is why inbreds don't fare so well.

Sadly you don't choose your caste.

You on the other hand had every opportunity to make something of your country. This is what you came up with and now you're scouring the annals of revisionist history to try and make yourself feel better.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Lol, Paksitan really is a joke of a country. They have literally nothing to be proud of so they wanna' pretend to be some aryan race or some shit. Clutching at straws much?

Land of the pure, more like land of the confused.

Where in the hell are we trying to be Aryans?

Rumours are just that, rumours. Intelligence is determined by variance, this is why inbreds don't fare so well.

You on the other hand had every opportunity to make something of your country. This is what you came up with and now you're scouring the annals of revisionist history to try and make yourself feel better.

I wonder why "us inbreds" have a higher average IQ, higher average height, and the other higher "averages" if you know what I mean .