You are one strange guy. No wonder the other senior members are always attacking you. But thanks for the link. This was an incident that I was not familiar with.
Hi,
I am just old and cranky---. That come with age.
My question is, given the ROE, that the a/c's should be within "X" kms of the border, the debris should fall inside the border etc, why didn't the PAF cut them off from the international border, and push them further into Pakistani Airspace, and then taken them down?
This question is not just for Mastan Sahab, Anyone with a logical explanation will be welcomed.
Pappy,
That is what kills me---why do you think I make these comments about the Paf---. They are insolent & arrogant ---. They don't give a sh-it about any other service.
It is a part of their history to deceive the other forces when they needed them the mpost.
You must be familiar with the karachi shipyard and refinery strike by indian missile boats in 1971---,
Well---hours before the strike took place---a PIA aircraft coming from GCC reported seeing missile boats being towed behind a frigate---he called in and reported to his controller---who then called and reported to the PAF controller at karachi air base---who called and reported it to the base commander---.
Now starts the treason---the gutless coward of a base commander---instead of initiating a recce aircraft right away and put it in the air----called the air chief---the air chief replied---"that is navy's problem--let navy handle its issues "--.
When later he was asked why he did not help---his reply was " it happens ole boy "---.
Him along with his family should have been hanged and properties confiscated.
Then with the pak army---they made a strike with a tank brigade inside indian territory and asked for air support---the same air chief refused---we cannot do it---.
The tank brigade was obliterated inside indian side by IAF---if the Paf help had arrived---there would have been massive dividends in that action.
And now coming to the Atlantique---. I was sitting here in the U S---when I read that news---it felt like someone ripped my heart our of my body---.
I wanted to know where the Paf was---why would it let the Atlantique fly on its own knowing the Iaf was around---why would it let it fly knowing that 2-5 indian aircraft were shot down at Kargil.
A car salesman like me knew that was an atrocious decision and should never had happened---. If the navy was insistent---then why did the air force not send and aircraft on their own to protect the Atlantique---.
And off course you would know about the biggest news of treason by an air force air marshall just before the hostilities of 1965---.
Air Marshall Asghar Khan contacted his indian counter part on his own---and conveyed that if he ie---Iaf does not use its air force during the conflict---he----ie---Paf will not use its assets during the conflict---that was pure blasphemy---how dare an air chief go about saying this on his own. Only a Paf air chief can do that and still be looked as a hero.
Treason runs in the veins of pakistan air force---. Navy men die heroic deaths without any fanfare and glory---army men die without any fanfare and glory---the Paf officers strut around in their flying suits off duty---.
The correct wording would be intercepted and escorted out of Pakistan air space.
Hi,
The correct wording would have been---they were shot down inside of Pakistan while making an un-announced incursion.
