Type 054B FFG News & Discussions

[FuturePAF]

Even after the type 054A was upgraded to the type 054AG, which then solved the missile and fire control radar problems, the type 054A was still using the Z9 helicopter and diesel engine.

The Z9 was weakly armoured and lacked night-fighting capability, the diesel engine was noisy, and the type 054A's maximum speed was only 27 knots. This resulted in its anti-submarine capability being limited. This is the main reason why the Chinese Navy started equipping the type 054B.

The Pakistani Navy can replace the Aegis destroyer with the type 054AG. But in the future when India equips more advanced submarines(for example, the German Type 214 submarine), I think Pakistan Navy will still need type 054B.

Analysis Project 75 India submarine acquisition: Type 214 vs. S-80 Plus

Project 75 India Submarine Acquisition: A Comparative Analysis of Type 214 and S-80 Plus

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btw: Type 054B is a Chinese hunter reserved for type 214 and Sōuryū-class.

Good points, perhaps they will split it and go for 4 type 054b and 4 Type 052DL over the next 10-15 years, once the finances are in order.

 

[MH.Yang]

Good points, perhaps they will split it and go for 4 type 054b and 4 Type 052DL over the next 10-15 years, once the finances are in order.

Pakistan Navy plans to spend $1.5bn to buy 4 Babur class from Turkey.

The cost of the type 054B is said to be CNY 1.9 billion (US$260 million). 1.5 billion would buy 6 type 054Bs.

 

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[FuturePAF]

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Better then the Royal Navy’s Type 45?

 

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[Elijah Manson]

There are six ships of type 052C.

There are twenty-five ships of type 052D/DL, with ten more under construction in the shipyards.

There are eight ships of type 055, with two more under construction in the shipyards.

There are forty-three ships of type 054A, which are being gradually upgraded to type 054AG, which will be China's smallest Aegis warship.

The shipyard also has two 054Bs.

At the current rate, we will soon have a hundred Aegis warships.


If we can continue to build 36 type 052E, 48 type 054B, and a third batch of type 055 in 26 years, we will have 200 Aegis warships and over 13,000 VLS (counting only VLSs for surface warships) by 2049.

Current Surface Force:

6 Type 052C(8x VLS) = 48 VLS
25 Type 052D/DL(64x VLS) = 1,600 VLS
43 Type 054A(32x VLS) = 1.376 VLS
8 Type 055(112x VLS) = 896 VLS
= 82 ships (3,920 VLS)

Under construction:
10 Type 052D/DL(64x VLS) = 640 VLS
2 Type 054B(32x VLS) = 64 VLS
2 Type 055(112x VLS) = 224 VLS
= 14 ships (928 VLS)

Total: 96 ships (4,848 VLS)

You say to extend construction until 2049 to:
36 Type 052E(64x VLS) = 2.304 VLS
48 Type 054B(32x VLS) = 1.536 VLS
14 Type 055(112x VLS) = 1.568 VLS
= 98 ships (5,408 VLS)

The PLAN would have a total of 194 Aegis ships with a total of 10,256 VLS, there will still be a deficit of 2,744 VLS, according to you, considering only surface warships.

Is there a ship missing that I missed in this account?

Furthermore, isn't the correct number of the Type 054A fleet just 32 ships in service, with 39 ships built to date?

 

[MH.Yang]

Current Surface Force:

6 Type 052C(8x VLS) = 48 VLS
25 Type 052D/DL(64x VLS) = 1,600 VLS
43 Type 054A(32x VLS) = 1.376 VLS
8 Type 055(112x VLS) = 896 VLS
= 82 ships (3,920 VLS)

Under construction:
10 Type 052D/DL(64x VLS) = 640 VLS
2 Type 054B(32x VLS) = 64 VLS
2 Type 055(112x VLS) = 224 VLS
= 14 ships (928 VLS)

Total: 96 ships (4,848 VLS)

You say to extend construction until 2049 to:
36 Type 052E(64x VLS) = 2.304 VLS
48 Type 054B(32x VLS) = 1.536 VLS
14 Type 055(112x VLS) = 1.568 VLS
= 98 ships (5,408 VLS)

The PLAN would have a total of 194 Aegis ships with a total of 10,256 VLS, there will still be a deficit of 2,744 VLS, according to you, considering only surface warships.

Is there a ship missing that I missed in this account?

Furthermore, isn't the correct number of the Type 054A fleet just 32 ships in service, with 39 ships built to date?

054B 48VLS＊48=2304

052C 48VLS＊6 =288

052E 96VLS＊36=3245

055A(22000t) 160VLS＊16=2560




2049:

054AG 32VLS＊43=1376
054B 48VLS＊50=2400
052C 48VLS＊6=288
052D/DL 64VLS＊35=2240
052E 96VLS＊36=3245
055 112VLS＊8=896
055A(22000t) 160VLS＊16=2560

total: 13005 VLS




In addition to this, the 096 strategic nuclear submarine is expected to be built in 16 ships with 24 VLS each.

We also have two types of strategic nuclear submarines, the 092 and 094. Of course, by 2049, both kinds of these submarines must have been decommissioned.

 

[luciferdd]

054B 48VLS＊48=2304

052C 48VLS＊6 =288

052E 96VLS＊36=3245

055A(22000t) 160VLS＊16=2560




2049:

054AG 32VLS＊43=1376
054B 48VLS＊50=2400
052C 48VLS＊6=288
052D/DL 64VLS＊35=2240
052E 96VLS＊36=3245
055 112VLS＊8=896
055A(22000t) 160VLS＊16=2560

total: 13005 VLS




In addition to this, the 096 strategic nuclear submarine is expected to be built in 16 ships with 24 VLS each.

We also have two types of strategic nuclear submarines, the 092 and 094. Of course, by 2049, both kinds of these submarines must have been decommissioned.

There is no type052E but much more 055s at a speed of 2 ships in 3 years,And once the 40MW CGT-40 engine is available there will a new 9000Tons general DDG.

 

[Elijah Manson]

054B 48VLS＊48=2304

Wouldn't the Type 54B only have 32 VLS?

 

[MH.Yang]

Wouldn't the Type 54B only have 32 VLS?

48 VLS + 8 YJ12

 

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