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Turkish court rule supporting returning Hagia Sophia museum again Mosques .

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Cry me a river.

If we want to demolish the hagia sophia and build a strip club where european girls dance on our laps will do it none of your business.

No we won't!

You are not permitted to snatch places of worships of others. And surely we will not build a strip club, neither any women would dance in our laps. None of this is Islamic and none of them is permissible.
 
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No we won't!

You are not permitted to snatch places of worships of others. And surely we will not build a strip club, neither any women would dance in our laps. None of this is Islamic and none of them is permissible.

Who asked your opinion my ancestors took it not yours. Its the spoils of war.

Fair enough, if they keep it open for tourism and tourist revenues I'm not completely against it. Also, in my opinion, just because Fatih Sultan Mehmet did it 600 years ago, does not mean we should forever keep it the same.

But there is no practical value in turning it into a mosque. There are over 3000 mosques in Istanbul, with dozens being built every year, while most of them are empty and just a tax burden. The value is only symbolic and emotional.

I dont want dozens of mosques being built I just want to pray at hagia sophia. I always been critical of new mosques being built due to many historical ones being empty.

Is this too much to ask??
 
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Who asked your opinion my ancestors took it not yours.



I dont want dozens of mosques being built I just want to pray at hagia sophia. I always been critical of new mosques being built due to many historical ones being empty.

Is this too much to ask??

it not the idea of praying at Ayasofya that I am against. I am against the way this is being exploited for votes and the danger of destroying cultural heritage, just in the sake of historical pride of conquest. I agree with you, many historical mosques are empty, while dozens are being built. Then again, there are dozens of historical mosques in the direct vicinity of Ayasofya that are open for prayer.
 
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Cry me a river.

If we want to demolish the hagia sophia and build a strip club where european girls dance on our laps will do it none of your business.

We heard similar before. As Taliban destroyed the old monument statue of Buddhism. Good luck.
 
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We heard similar before. As Taliban destroyed the old monument statue of Buddhism. Good luck.

My statement would have pissed off a lot of religious and conservative Muslims.

So the taliban argument does not work. I rest assure you isis and the taliban would have most likely looted or destroyed hagia sophia like your german ancestors did in the fourth crusade.
 
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My statement would have pissed off a lot of religious and conservative Muslims.

So the taliban argument does not work. I rest assure you isis and the taliban would have most likely looted or destroyed hagia sophia like your german ancestors did in the fourth crusade.

The religious camp in the Muslim world is a collection of hypocrites. The western white man always applauds such statements as if that means we are with them, they and their Christfag churches can **** off too.

In the recent 10 years there has been a popular movement by 'co-existing, peaceful loving cultural Muslims whom say we can exist with Christians together'. These are nothing but non-practicing Muslim by name folk trying hard to look progressive in front of the white man. Both these religions originate from the middle east and they are as of today causing nothing but trouble to all of us. If in the past it's a different story then it no longer is being followed/implemented as it should be.
 
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The religious camp in the Muslim world is a collection of hypocrites. The western white man always applauds such statements as if that means we are with them, they and their Christfag churches can **** off too.

In the recent 10 years there has been a popular movement by 'co-existing, peaceful loving cultural Muslims whom say we can exist with Christians together'. These are nothing but non-practicing Muslim by name folk trying hard to look progressive in front of the white man. Both these religions originate from the middle east and they are as of today causing nothing but trouble to all of us. If in the past it's a different story then it no longer is being followed/implemented as it should be.

Christfags who live in Islamic world would constantly tell us how we are brothers and sisters how we live together in peace when they come to the West they change their tune tell the white man how evil muslims oppress and persecute them.

Seriously they sink as low to say that Muslims allow terrorist groups to kill christians that we are in bed with isis and aq which leads to even more interventions in the Islamic world due to their bullshit lies.

Seriously these terrorists kill anybody in their path does not matter if they are Muslim or Christian isnt it ironic how Christians live in priviledge in a lot of Muslim countries seriously if they were persecuted they would not be rich a lot of the Muslim countries would have kick them out and seize their properties and leave them with nothing.

Honestly I dont care but I cant stand liars. I agree with a lot of Muslims being hypocrites especially the religious crowd.
 
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what a dumb decision from a dumb people, IMO still a museum and if they converted to a mosque I won't visited anymore
 
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Christfags who live in Islamic world would constantly tell us how we are brothers and sisters how we live together in peace when they come to the West they change their tune tell the white man how evil muslims oppress and persecute them.

Seriously they sink as low to say that Muslims allow terrorist groups to kill christians that we are in bed with isis and aq which leads to even more interventions in the Islamic world due to their bullshit lies.

Seriously these terrorists kill anybody in their path does not matter if they are Muslim or Christian isnt it ironic how Christians live in priviledge in a lot of Muslim countries seriously if they were persecuted they would not be rich a lot of the Muslim countries would have kick them out and seize their properties and leave them with nothing.

Honestly I dont care but I cant stand liars. I agree with a lot of Muslims being hypocrites especially the religious crowd.

Eventually the uneducated boomers including Erdogan will pass away and make way for the new generations who do not give so many shits about all of this.

Time will fix the problem, the important thing is to not confuse this progression with westernization. The west is degenerate.
 
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We heard similar before. As Taliban destroyed the old monument statue of Buddhism. Good luck.
Funny how every one high on Western propaganda keeps whining about a statue while conveniently ignoring all the death and destruction caused in that country by first the Russians, then by the Americans.

You think that everyone should subscribe to your pack of lies just because you people have accumulated a lot of material wealth(mainly, by plundering other regions). Not a long time ago, 150 children in Afghanistan were killed by single US airstrike; I bet you wouldn't have even heard about it. Perhaps they weren't as important as statues.

You people have no leg to stand on when you talk about these issues.
 
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Angel frescoes were unearthed in 2009-10. After all of these efforts, I think these will not coated again. However, a limited space in the building will be reserved for worship. Just like in Trabzon. If necessary, roller blinds will be used during prayer as there is.

Could you provide some details/pictures on what was done in Trabzon?
 
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