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The Balance of Air power in Sub-continent considering latest inductions of Platforms / capabilities by PAF

Taimoor ALCM provides a range of 1,200 km.
Above quoted part must be a typo error unless writer was stating figures of range of launching platform (probably JF-17) with Taimoor missile, which make sense but for the range of the missile itself the below quoted figure is accurate.
By capping the range at 290 km
 
Chinese weapon systems are not mature. That includes JF-17 including most of the subsystems. The JF-17 might inspire some confidence if the PLAAF choose to induct it. There is no two ways about it.
What do you mean?
Jf17 is one of largest 4th gen aircraft produced (>200) and is in service for 15 years in 3 countries.

It's weapons have been added incrementally and has been battle tested.

It already has credited air to air kills and air to ground use
 
While agree to whats been written ; For others IRST is a Long debated subject which would have different opinions by different experts. J-10C comes with IRST.


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IRST is not magic and can’t substitute the radar but can pull off some very neat tricks, like giving passive lock for AAMs and not triggering RWR on the bogie.
 
IRST is not magic and can’t substitute the radar but can pull off some very neat tricks, like giving passive lock for AAMs and not triggering RWR on the bogie.

Passive means & Active measures both have thier advantages or limitations.

Agreed.
 
Another lie fed to you Pakistanis by your madrassas the reality is that You Pakistanis were the ones being enslaved by Muslims that’s the reason why you were forced to accept Islam and became a majority Muslim region, Indians weren’t being ruled by Muslims they fought and defeated Islamic invaders that’s the reason why they remained majority Hindu throughout the history
Amazing what they teach you in saffron schools..... I guess close to 2B were converted at the point of the sword.... amazing.....
 
JF-17C & J-10C STAR IN PAKISTAN DAY PARADE REHEARSALS

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".. The Pakistan Day Parade 23rd March 2023 was expected to be a grand display of country's military prowess had to be cancelled due to to heavy rains. But PAF still managed to show off both the highly anticipated Block -III of JF-17 Thunder & its newly acquired J-10CE Fighters during rehearsals.

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The result of co-operative development efforts between Pakistan and China, the new Block III variant of the JF-17, which is currently in serial production at Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) Kamra, was publicly showcased for the first time, leading a formation of older Block I/II-standard versions of the multi-role fighter.

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The Block III is the most advanced variant of the JF-17 to date and is equipped with a new KLJ- 7A active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, improved electronic warfare capabilities and enhanced avionics systems.


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Together with the new Chengdu J-10CEs, the JF-17 Block III is one of the most advanced fighters in the PAF's arsenal.

A JF-17 Block I, 07-101 sporting a unique special tail scheme to celebrate the continued friendship between Pakistan and China, was also involved in the flypast, marking its status as the first JF-17 to be inducted into PAF service.

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This J-17 Thunder was originally unveiled in a complete all over colour scheme when it made its first public display in March 2007 and has obviously been repainted since being overhauled.

The Block III variant is expected to further enhance the force's capabilities and its unveiling during the Pakistan Day Parade 2023 represented a proud moment for the PAF and the country.


Last year, the PAF inducted its first Chinese- made 4.5-generation J-10CE fighters into operational service, marking a significant milestone for the PAF as it continues to modernise its combat airpower capabilities.

This year, the J-10CE made a comeback during the rehearsals for the Pakistan Day Parade with a different camouflage livery.

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The J-10CE is a versatile fighter and is equipped with modern avionics, advanced fire control systems and air-to-air/ ground missiles. Its participation in the parade is a symbol of the strong relationship between Pakistan and China. "

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Above: A JF-17 Block III (serial 22-307) leads three other PAF-operated Thunders as the multi-role fighters prepare to break formation during a rehearsal for the Pakistan Day Parade 2023 in March.

Note that the JF- 17 Block I (07-101) breaking away from the camera

Features special tail art Rana Suhaib/Snappers Crew

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Above : Three PAF-operated J-10CES (serials from left: 22-116; 22-102 and 22-117) fly in tight formation during the Pakistan Day Parade 2023 rehearsals in March.


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Note that two J-10CES have a camouflage livery, which connotes the tactical mission set of the Chinese-made fighter in PAF service Rana Suhaib/Snappers Crew
 
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JF-17C & J-10C STAR IN PAKISTAN DAY PARADE REHEARSALS

AIR FORCE MONTHLY


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".. The Pakistan Day Parade 23rd March 2023 was expected to be a grand display of country's military prowess had to be cancelled due to to heavy rains. But PAF still managed to show off both the highly anticipated Block -III of JF-17 Thunder & its newly acquired J-10CE Fighters during rehearsals.

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The result of co-operative development efforts between Pakistan and China, the new Block III variant of the JF-17, which is currently in serial production at Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) Kamra, was publicly showcased for the first time, leading a formation of older Block I/II-standard versions of the multi-role fighter.

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The Block III is the most advanced variant of the JF-17 to date and is equipped with a new KLJ- 7A active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, improved electronic warfare capabilities and enhanced avionics systems.


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Together with the new Chengdu J-10CEs, the JF-17 Block III is one of the most advanced fighters in the PAF's arsenal.

A JF-17 Block I, 07-101 sporting a unique special tail scheme to celebrate the continued friendship between Pakistan and China, was also involved in the flypast, marking its status as the first JF-17 to be inducted into PAF service.

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This J-17 Thunder was originally unveiled in a complete all over colour scheme when it made its first public display in March 2007 and has obviously been repainted since being overhauled.

The Block III variant is expected to further enhance the force's capabilities and its unveiling during the Pakistan Day Parade 2023 represented a proud moment for the PAF and the country.


Last year, the PAF inducted its first Chinese- made 4.5-generation J-10CE fighters into operational service, marking a significant milestone for the PAF as it continues to modernise its combat airpower capabilities.

This year, the J-10CE made a comeback during the rehearsals for the Pakistan Day Parade with a different camouflage livery.

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The J-10CE is a versatile fighter and is equipped with modern avionics, advanced fire control systems and air-to-air/ ground missiles. Its participation in the parade is a symbol of the strong relationship between Pakistan and China. "

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Above: A JF-17 Block III (serial 22-307) leads three other PAF-operated Thunders as the multi-role fighters prepare to break formation during a rehearsal for the Pakistan Day Parade 2023 in March.

Note that the JF- 17 Block I (07-101) breaking away from the camera

Features special tail art Rana Suhaib/Snappers Crew

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Above : Three PAF-operated J-10CES (serials from left: 22-116; 22-102 and 22-117) fly in tight formation during the Pakistan Day Parade 2023 rehearsals in March.


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Note that two J-10CES have a camouflage livery, which connotes the tactical mission set of the Chinese-made fighter in PAF service Rana Suhaib/Snappers Crew

Specs for KLJ-7A are outdated. As of 2020 even the less powerful air cooled LF-601 has a maximum range of 200KM against fighter sized targets (5M^2).
 
Specs for KLJ-7A are outdated. As of 2020 even the less powerful air cooled LF-601 has a maximum range of 200KM against fighter sized targets (5M^2).

Official Brochure was reference.

Nothing official available to quote , but an educated guess is rightly pointed out.

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Specs for KLJ-7A are outdated. As of 2020 even the less powerful air cooled LF-601 has a maximum range of 200KM against fighter sized targets (5M^2).
Rumors have it that production version locks 4 at 220km, has 0.5 meter SAR, sea targets up to 340km. Max search range quoted 370km. Peak power 13kw.
 
INDIA'S UAV PROGRAM HIGHLIGHTS

RUSTOM-II or TAPAS


DRDO MALE UAV Tapas also known as Rustom-2 .

  • It has been designed and developed by the Aeronautical Development Establishment (ADE), Bengaluru with production partners being Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd and Bharat Electronics Limited.
  • It is also known as Tapas-BH (Tactical Airborne Platform for Aerial Surveillance-Beyond Horizon 201).
    • The UAV is actually named after Rustom Damania, a former professor at the Indian Institute of Science (IISc), Bengaluru.
      • In the 1980s, he led the National Aeronautical Laboratories’ light canard research aircraft (LCRA) program.
      • The LCRA platform and R&D provide the preliminary drive for DRDO ADE’s eventual Rustom-II design
  • Features:
  • It is being developed to carry out surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) roles and is capable of carrying different combinations of advanced payload and capable of auto-landing among others.
  • It is being designed to acquire real-time, high-quality pictures and signal intelligence from fields of concern at medium to long ranges.
  • It technologically matches contemporary UAVs available and will also be cheaper than the imported ones.
  • Significance and need
  • High endurance UAVs are a priority requirement for the armed forces especially in the standoff with China in Eastern Ladakh.
  • The armed forces rely heavily on the Israeli Searcher and Heron drones and need more such UAVs.


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Other recent developments

  • Structural fire-fighting suit:
    • Structural fire-fighting suit developed by DRDO’s Centre for Fire, Explosive and Environment Safety (CFEES), Delhi.
      • The suit weighing 2.8 kg is an ensemble of several layers, with the outer layer being the most durable and protecting against heat, flames, water, chemicals and also against cuts and abrasion.
      • The inner thermal layer provides insulation by creating air cushions and microclimate chambers.
      • Such a suit has been developed for the first time in the country and meets European standards while at the same time lowering import costs,
    • A special “fire entry suit” which can fire without significant fire for 150 seconds is also in the advanced stages of development.
      • The aim is to reduce the weight of the suit which is present at 25 kg and reduce the import content
  • The Services have embarked on a major upgrade project of the Heron UAVs.
    • A separate proposal for 30 armed Predator drones, 10 for each Service, from the U.S. is also at advanced stages.

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In 2022, It Completed the 18hrs at 28K ft trials.
Currently in last stage of user trials.

India's Rustom II medium-altitude long-endurance (MALE) unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) can reach the required altitude of 28,000 ft, G Satheesh Reddy, chairperson of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) told Janes.

“We are now looking at endurance,” he said, adding that in a month's time, the DRDO expects Rustom II to achieve more than 18 hours of flight time while operating at an altitude of 28,000 ft.

According to Janes All the World's Aircraft: Unmanned, Rustom II has an overall length of 9.5 m and a wingspan of 20.6 m. It is powered by two Saturn 36T turboprop engines, each rated at 74.57 kW (100 hp).

Also known as TAPAS-BH-201 (Tactical Advanced Platform for Aerial Surveillance-Beyond Horizon-201), Rustom II weighs 1,800 kg and has a cruising speed of 135 kt.

It is designed to carry payloads of up to 350 kg. The mission payloads are reportedly Israel-sourced and include electro-optic (EO) and infrared (IR) sensors, synthetic aperture radar (SAR) and maritime patrol radars, communications relay, and electronic intelligence (ELINT) and communications intelligence (COMINT) packages.

In November 2021 the DRDO demonstrated Rustom II's ability to take off and land autonomously as well as its ability to utilise India's satellite-based navigation system – GPS-aided GEO augmented navigation (GAGAN) – that has been jointly built by the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) and Airports Authority of India (AAI).


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HAL is producing 6 UAVs for final production within this year.

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Total Plan is for 76 UAV induction with time line 2024 - 2025 :

12 for Indian Airforce
60 for Indian Army
4 for Indian Navy


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GHATAK STEALTH TEST BED

DRDO initiated ground tests of the SWiFT (Stealth Wing Flying Testbed), demonstrator of #UAV (stealth bomber) for the Indian Air Force #Ghatak in 2021.


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The maiden flight of the Autonomous Flying Wing Technology Demonstrator was carried out successfully by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) on 1 July. The flight was conducted from the Aeronautical Test Range in the southern state of Karnataka. A Ministry of Defence (MoD) press release stated that the aircraft operated in a fully autonomous mode and had a perfect flight, including take-off, way point navigation and a smooth touchdown.

The Autonomous Flying Wing Technology Demonstrator has been referred to by multiple officially-used names such as ‘Stealth Wing Flying Testbed (SWiFT)’, Stealthy High Speed Autonomous UAV and Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Technology Demonstrator (UAVTD). It is designed & developed by Aeronautical Development Establishment (ADE), a laboratory of DRDO.

It is powered by a 4kN turbofan engine. The airframe, undercarriage and entire flight control and avionics systems used for the aircraft were developed indigenously. A video released by DRDO showed the UAV taking off with a vertical stabilizer. This is expected to be used only for initial tests and was not present in mockups or during taxi runs. SWiFT had conducted taxi trials in late 2021 after being assembled earlier that year.





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Two SWiFT air frames exist while a third one was being assembled earlier this year. The 1 ton UAV has a retractable landing gear system, designed and developed to be folded within a constrained bay volume.

The four meter long, five meter wingspan UAV has a range of about 200km.

The MoD press release also stated that “this flight marks a major milestone in terms of proving critical technologies towards the development of future unmanned aircraft and is a significant step towards self-reliance in such strategic defence technologies”.

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SWiFT is a technology demonstrator for Stealthy Advanced Futuristic Unmanned Combat Aircraft, better known as DRDO Ghatak and Remotely Piloted Strike Aircraft (RPSA).

This large UCAV will be powered by a dry version of the Kaveri turbofan engine, generating about 50kN thrust. Programs referred to as Futuristic Unmanned Fighter Aircraft and Futuristic Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle also exist, but it is currently not clear whether these are separate from Ghatak.




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THE LACK OF SPARES FOR INDIAN FLEET DUE TO RUSSIA - UKRAINE CONFLICT

War, payment issues impact military supplies to India from Russia & Ukraine. IAF worst hit


Russia has stalled delivery of S-400 Triumf air defence systems to IAF. Efforts are underway to reduce dependence on the two countries, it is learnt.


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New Delhi: The Russia-Ukraine war has impacted military supplies to India from both countries, with the Indian Air Force (IAF) being the worst hit, ThePrint has learnt.

However, sources in the defence and security establishment said there has been no impact on the operational preparedness of the forces, and efforts are underway to reduce dependence on these two countries.


Such has been the impact of the war that the Russians have given it in writing that they won’t be able to supply the remaining two regiments of the S-400 air defence systems to the IAF within the stipulated time.

Sources explained that the delay in supplies is due to a combination of the ongoing war, which has impacted their production capacity, and their need to focus internally rather than on exports, besides the payment roadblocks.

Incidentally, India and Russia are in an advanced stage of talks to start using the Russian financial messaging system — the Service Bureau of the Financial Messaging System of the Bank of Russia (SPFS).

As reported earlier, SPFS became a necessity as the US, along with the European Union, cut off seven Russian banks from SWIFT — the Belgium-based cross-border payment system operator — including the one that was being used for payments earlier by India.

Another key element that is being worked upon is an agreement on mutually recognising Indian RuPay cards and Unified Payments Interface (UPI) in Russia, and the Russian MIR cards and its Fast Payments System (FPS) in India.
Sources said that things will ease up once the new payment mode is finalised.


IAF worst hit

Sources admitted that the biggest impact of has been on the IAF, which depends on a lot of Russian and Ukrainian supplies for spare parts to keep its fleet — which includes frontline fighter aircraft such as the Su-30 MKI, besides certain missiles — flying.

They said that the impact would start showing a few months from now if the Russia-Ukraine war continues.

In its submission to the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Defence in March, the IAF had blamed the Russia-Ukraine war for its sharp decline in budgetary projection.

“…our projection last year was Rs 85,000 crore and we finally got an allocation of Rs 57,000 crore which we consumed. This year, the projection itself has been less because of this Russia-Ukraine war as some of our deliveries are not taking place. So, we have already been told that those deliveries will not take place,” the report by the Committee had noted.

It added a submission from an IAF officer that read: “As far as reduced projection is concerned, some part of it covers spares…but there is a major project…where the deliveries have been stopped because of the war going on…That is why the major part of projection has been reduced.”

Sources said this was the S-400 air defence system, but noted that the issue related more to Russian production capabilities than payments.

They added that while defence equipment has been hit, oil and other trade continues to take place for which payments are made.

Payments a challenge

Sources said a large number of payments are pending from the Indian side because of the series of sanctions against Russia.

As reported by ThePrint last year in August, while New Delhi and Moscow had worked out a simpler system for payments, secondary sanctions imposed on Russia have led to fresh challenges.

Sources said that payments nearing USD 2 billion are pending and Russia has refused to extend the credit for non-critical items.

“Both countries are in talks to find a payment system that can be used. The heavy trade imbalance between the two countries is also a roadblock to finding easy solutions,” a source explained.

However, sources maintained that the forces have not been hit operationally: “There is stuff in the stockpile which can cater to any immediate need. Also, efforts are on to source some of the spares from a third country and if need be, they will cannibalise from others.”

The Navy and Army have also been hit but the impact on them is lesser, it is learnt.

“The Russians are focussed on their own internal supplies while ensuring that their export commitments are also adhered to, at least the most needed ones to friendly countries,” a source said.
Explaining the other reasons for the halt in supplies, sources said Russia is trying to up its production capacity to cater to its own needs but availability of workers is a huge issue.

Another issue is with transportation as shipping companies, fearing American sanctions, are wary of doing business with Russia.

Moreover, insurance for these Russian goods has increased several times, sources said.
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THE POTENTIAL CANDIDATE FOR "AZAM"
NGFA VLO TWIN ENGINE STRIKE FIGHTER JET ROLE FOR PAF IN FUTURE


- Ceremony for Anka -03 etc planned on 1st May 2023

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-In the near future, our plan is to fly our first prototype Block Zero aircraft within the year.

- We will design 7 prototypes on the way to mass production.

-Subsequently There will be tests of these Prototypes and their systems - Both Ground as well as flight tests [as basis for refinements].

-We will also perform our tests on some [associated] platforms.

- We plan to deliver our aircraft to our Air Force by 2028."


- Chief Engineer MMU / TFX


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