Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

[khanasifm]

It’s aesa but to cover full 360 has rotating dish


The ZDK-03s have been developed to our specifications," says the air force. "It won't be an E-3C Sentry, but it will have the latest electronics and everything an AEW&C aircraft needs."

The Chinese-built aircraft will have an active electronically scanned array radar, and its open architecture electronics will allow for future developments and upgrades.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/pakistan-to-receive-first-zdk-03-aewc-aircraft-350025/


https://www.defensenews.com/2015/02/28/pakistan-re-equips-squadron-with-aew-c-planes/

 

[Shane]

@Oscar @Windjammer @TOPGUN @Dazzler @messiach @MastanKhan @Khafee ,

Theoretically speaking, is it possible for an AEW&C or EW aircraft to assume the flight plan of a passenger jet and fly over (or close to) an otherwise hostile protected airspace, deep enough (or close enough), inconspicuously and then start providing EW cover to an ingress package on approach?

If so, what is the best way to counter such a possibility other than closing airways?

It should be possible to prove such an event if it occurs too, so are there international laws that forbid such misuse of passenger jet identity or is it still unchartered territory?

After all, it is literally like putting the lives of other passenger jets in the vicinity or between hostile countries, in danger of getting shot.

My point in writing that post was about possibilities of breaking and bending the rules to achieve military objective in fooling enemy/hostile radars of approaching threats untill its too late.

I believe you are correct and going by the official rules and regulations.

However, a chartered private/passenger jet flying towards the border with all the confirming transponder/ATC/ID and call signs can still turn out to be a CIA Hercules with all its military communications equipment on board.

Yes, we can choose to believe the official regulations and those who can hack, bypass, ignore or simply trick the regulations all the time.

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@Oscar @Windjammer @TOPGUN @Dazzler @messiach @MastanKhan @Khafee
Does the following tweet has any significance with reference to the above posts made after earlier airspace closure?

Is the recent talk of closing airspace only to economically hurt Indian airliners only?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1165967883337441281

Strange co-incidence or was it?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1186252687958036480

 

[MIRauf]

I don't know if this is true, to best of my knowledge the original 4 were inducted as PESA rotating Dish and not AESA. Only one out of four so far is in China to go thru AESA upgrade and there is no indication that it has returned back into Fleet. PLAAF didn't induct AESA mini Dish till KJ-500 which was years after PAF received at least three ZDK-03s. Fourth one too much longer to be received ( after induction of KJ-500 in PLAAF,) now is it AESA capable ? or PESA ?

 

[Dazzler]

 

[Pakistan Ka Beta]

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Oct 8, 2019 Bilal Khan -
PAKISTAN CONFIRMS DELIVERIES OF FOLLOW-ON ERIEYE AEW&C
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In its annual yearbook for 2017-2018, the Pakistan Ministry of Defence Production (MoDP) confirmed that the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) took delivery of its sixth Saab 2000-based Erieye airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft. The Directorate General of Defence Purchase (DGDP) ordered the sixth Erieye AEW&C from Saab for $94.95 million US in 2017-2018.[1]

Public export-import registries indicated that the PAF started implementing the follow-on Erieye program in April 2018, with deliveries concluding in April 2019. It appears that the additional Erieye AEW&C aircraft were integrated to three Saab 2000s procured from Skyworld Aviation in November 2018. In any case, the MoDP has basically confirmed that the PAF now operates six Erieye AEW&C aircraft.

The PAF ordered four Erieye AEW&C in 2006. It had originally sought six AEW&C, but trimmed its purchase due to a resource reduction (as a result of the earthquake in 2005). The total value of the Erieye contract was $1.15 billion US, but that included training, logistics, spare parts, and other ancillary costs. However, the cost of the Erieye AEW&C on its own was $93 million US (close to the figure outlined by the MoDP).

In order to recover its fleet following the terrorist attack on Minhas Air Base in 2012, the PAF also set-up an extensive support base for the Saab 2000, one sufficient enough to repair damaged aircraft.

Although the Erieye is now an older system (with Saab actively promoting the Erieye ER), at less than $95 million, it is a comparatively low-cost solution for the PAF. However, the Saab 2000 is an integral piece to this cost-effectiveness, and there are a very limited number of such aircraft available on the market.

The PAF has not indicated any plan for procuring the Erieye ER, a gallium-nitride (GaN)-based system with a 70% increase in detection range. However, seeing the efficacy of the Erieye platform in its recent stand-off with India, interest in the improved version is not out of the question.



[1] Year Book (sic) 2017-2018. Ministry of Defence Production. Government of Pakistan. 05 September 2019. URL: http://www.modp.gov.pk/frmDetails.aspx


https://quwa.org/2019/10/08/pakistan-confirms-deliveries-of-follow-on-erieye-aewc/

 

[nomi007]

 

[nomi007]

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an improved variant (ZDK-03A?) featuring a mechanically rotating AESA radar (KLC-7/B&R Eye from 14th Institute) is being developed.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Any progress on the three Erieye kits received????

 

[araz]

I don't know if this is true, to best of my knowledge the original 4 were inducted as PESA rotating Dish and not AESA. Only one out of four so far is in China to go thru AESA upgrade and there is no indication that it has returned back into Fleet. PLAAF didn't induct AESA mini Dish till KJ-500 which was years after PAF received at least three ZDK-03s. Fourth one too much longer to be received ( after induction of KJ-500 in PLAAF,) now is it AESA capable ? or PESA ?

Fully agreed. These are PESA dishes not AESA. they will subsequently be upgraded to AESA.
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[LKJ86]

PLAAF didn't induct AESA mini Dish till KJ-500 which was years after PAF received at least three ZDK-03s.

Why not mention KJ-2000 and KJ-200?

 

[Tipu7]

Any progress on the three Erieye kits received????

Operational

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Operational

So soon????

 

[Tipu7]

So soon????

Yeah, 'so soon'

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Although the Erieye is now an older system (with Saab actively promoting the Erieye ER), at less than $95 million, it is a comparatively low-cost solution for the PAF. However, the Saab 2000 is an integral piece to this cost-effectiveness, and there are a very limited number of such aircraft available on the market.

The PAF has not indicated any plan for procuring the Erieye ER, a gallium-nitride (GaN)-based system with a 70% increase in detection range. However, seeing the efficacy of the Erieye platform in its recent stand-off with India, interest in the improved version is not out of the question.

Pakistan should upgrade all its Erieyes to ER Standard

 

[araz]

Pakistan should upgrade all its Erieyes to ER Standard

Kaka.
When you guys want newer toys please remember they cost money. Not only the Radar but possibly also the hardware may need changing. All when it is working just fine and giving the adversary a good run for its money. Possibly at 120 to 150 million a pop for 6 units when we are running around with PESA on the K3s. I think let us get the K3s back and play with them first. The expense is not worth it. Sort of same issue with my 2003 Honda which has just done 68000 miles. My children want a newer toy but is it worth it when it gets me from A to B with no problems.
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