Buddy you and me hardly interact, may be it is good for both of us,
but I being participant of this forum was perturbed by your views in this post, on what basis you think you are superior than Zarvan?or you hold superior knowledge or you have superior views than him, how can you say for sure your way of life is superior and better than his way of life? (I have not seen him assuming relations between two people here on this forum and making a placard of it and display it to the whole world on this forum). I have my differences with
@Zarvan , out of his huge post count my interaction with him is hardly more than ten posts, but God Forbid I would never assume that I am better than him as a human, as a poster, as a Muslim. So how and on what basis can you malign him and think you are any better than him? (Don’t say he supported terrorists, he may have and he may still be supporting their views) but at least he was open about his agenda unlike many here. And you dragged him to some drama that he has not been part of. If he is not listening to you it is because you assume that you are always right and he is always wrong (at least this is what your post here suggests). And then you say he is nobody? Come on.
Now coming to second paragraph of your post, who has imposed anything on you? did Zarvan, me, Indus falcon or any other poster kept following you to join our crusade, mullah brigade or our individual cause? Did any of us attack your personality?
I have not said anything about Levina (I hope she is reading this, or any of her friends reading this) and this whole drama, I am not interested in this, Syed Ali does not need my advice, my support, my ideas, he is more mature than me, more knowledgeable than me, more experienced than me so whatever he did he must have given it a proper thought, but Levina if she remembers does cross the limits (may be out of her ignorance or intentionally) and she cannot hold the same principles when it comes to her, if she remembers she got a thread locked based on a list of banned topic rules where I was having peaceful discussion with Indian other faith member, but she did not remember this when she was doing it herself, her excuse was I just want to know and learn more about it. If she remembers she stopped interacting with me, where I quoted the members of this gang who lobbied against Syed Ali initially, including Doppelganger (another member she had disputes with). I had shared my piece of advice with all of them including Syed Ali and interestingly none of them acted with anger towards me except levina, her words were "You keep out of it" though I had a neutral stance but she could not care that other people who are supporting her cause or she supporting someone else's cause also need to stay out of it and let that particular poster handle his case alone, I knew it then and there they won't stop, and Syed Ali provided them every opportunity to gang up against him and make their case strong, then fast forward levina made a grave mistake (on one of Aurangzeb threads I think) and said something about Quran which was enough for me to go all out on her but instead I told her maybe she is not aware but whatever she said is wrong and offensive, which she accepted and corrected. The point here is when you don't have the knowledge about something you don't make statements on that that are offensive to others, you don't invite and agitate a crowd against you yourself, you cannot hold different rules for yourself and different for others, you cannot go on threatening people and imparting impression that you can get anyone banned, you cannot be judge of anyone on this forum, people don't come here to get themselves judged, threatened or embarrassed. You cannot sit on the sidelines when your side is making fun and mocking others' beliefs, others' country, others' faith, but jump in to support your side when other side starts mocking your beliefs in response, to be neutral, honest, fair it takes lot of courage and character. I did not want to be part of this whole drama, too much emotional stuff that I cannot digest. But people like you and levina need to understand
you are not our teachers or parents most of us here are educated and mature enough and are playing our parts in our practical lives, we come here to gain knowledge on subjects that are new to us, to share ideas with others, have fair and clean debates, express our views, none of us comes here to get insulted and criticized for what we believe, to get our personalities attacked, to face gang and lobby wars, to curse management, to curse others, to complain and whine, to cry like babies. And somebody really needs to learn that nobody is holier than any other here, we don't apply the same rules and principles on ourselves which we openly apply to others.
@Indus Falcon And all other members who are acting emotional please stop this now, it has become like an Indian drama serial. Come on grow up. What is this hypocrisy? You people complain about forum, management and everything but you are still here, act like mature people.
No youtube cannot watch