Assessment of India’s Balakot raid, aftermath & future implications

[Sine Nomine]

A Rubicon has been crossed that day.
Even Pakistan doesn't deny India bombs dropped 60Km inside pakistan proper.
Gahfoor didn't know SoWs were used, hence first tweeted Indian jets came and dropped their pay load in the jungle and left.

Pakistan would always respond, it's not that India didn't take into account Pakistan's retaliatory response and likely escalation when they launched Balakot strikes.
Now with Balakot, India has told the world it wont hesitate to do kinetic action inside Pakistan if terrorism is perpetrated on its soil. Last time war was avoided by whisker after Pakistan agreed to return Abhinandan, next time to it'll be unavoidable. We are in hair trigger situation.

There are arty rounds getting fired on each other,Pakistani snipers killing IA soldiers everyday,ATGM's from both sides being fired on bunkers and you think some Mirages coming and launching SOW's on a hilltop have made a rubicon getting crossed that day.
World pays jackshit about life coward browns who can't solve an issue like men.

 

[The Accountant]

A Rubicon has been crossed that day.
Even Pakistan doesn't deny India bombs dropped 60Km inside pakistan proper.
Gahfoor didn't know SoWs were used, hence first tweeted Indian jets came and dropped their pay load in the jungle and left.

Pakistan would always respond, it's not that India didn't take into account Pakistan's retaliatory response and likely escalation when they launched Balakot strikes.
Now with Balakot, India has told the world it wont hesitate to do kinetic action inside Pakistan if terrorism is perpetrated on its soil. Last time war was avoided by whisker after Pakistan agreed to return Abhinandan, next time to it'll be unavoidable. We are in hair trigger situation.

And we told u ... bring it on ... if u drop 4 bombs in jungle we drop 6 in your miltary compound and took w jets in bonus.

U not only told India that u will attack Pakiatan but also acknoeledged that u will your *** kicked by Pakistan and then will run back with tails between legs ... lolz on u poor Indians

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Lol
Show me any evidence of saudi and us intervention? If not then no point in discussion with you

Why Indians can't understand that releasing Abhinandan in front of the world world was a PR stunt???

 

[Wood]

India has gone and bought latest long range BVR for Su30 Mki, latest version R-77s. That's not the issue. And if real war breaks out , pakistan and India are so close, few KM differnce in range of BVR wouldn't make a difference.
On 27th Feb, presence of limited number of aircraft at the scene made it easy for pakistan to launch Sows and even then ABhi's Mig 21 cross LoC. Had he killed, Modi would have left with no option but to escalate.

I'm aware that India has placed emergency orders for R-27 as was reported last June. India has also looked at procuring I-Derby from Israel, but complications exist in integrating that with SU 30 MKI (without Russian involvement). Even with these measures, I think it will be a couple of years for the fighters to be ready for BVR engagements with Pakistan.

No doubt that in a full blown war, the edge in BVR will not necessarily guarantee upper hand for PAF. This is why I said Pakistan's political leadership will be confident that PAF can more than handle IAF in similar confrontations that do not escalate to full blown war.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

A Rubicon has been crossed that day.
Even Pakistan doesn't deny India bombs dropped 60Km inside pakistan proper.
Gahfoor didn't know SoWs were used, hence first tweeted Indian jets came and dropped their pay load in the jungle and left.

Gahfoor is not an airforce guy and does not know technical terms. He was told bombs were dropped in balakot so to non airforce soldier one would assume that its only possible with jets literally flew in to drop. Heck he still does not know the difference between LGB and SOW. However it was later correct among many of DGISPR technical errors that IAF intrusion was thwarted with quick response. In reality India did not want to cause human causalities so it targeted few hundred feet away from intended target which would be enough to satisfy Indian audience about fake strike. PAF did the same in return by hitting nearby the intended target to avoid human casualties. PAF was able to show actual footage and IAF did not!
It also defeats the purpose to use long range SOW if you are hovering above the target.

Rtd air marshal kk nohwar is under the impression that the only way possible for IAF to drop weapons on location which Pakistan is claiming is only if IAF had flown 50-60 KM south of balakot (which would make over 100 km inside pak territory) and it would be impossible since IAF would be engaged and shot down. This retard does not even know that Spice-2000 are made just for that purpose which can engage target even at slope location. It can make steep dive even on the other side of the hill where the spice is coming from.

Pakistan would always respond, it's not that India didn't take into account Pakistan's retaliatory response and likely escalation when they launched Balakot strikes.
Now with Balakot, India has told the world it wont hesitate to do kinetic action inside Pakistan if terrorism is perpetrated on its soil. Last time war was avoided by whisker after Pakistan agreed to return Abhinandan, next time to it'll be unavoidable. We are in hair trigger situation.

No, IAF was caught by surprise with their pants down. They under estimated Pakistan simply.
Also stop coming up chutiya terms like "kinetic energy attacks" to satisfy your indiot ego. it just sound really stupid retarded and pathetic. Almost anything dropped from the sky has kinetic energy regardless if its SOW Ballistic missile or pellets.
Pakistan military on the ground could have left Abhi with civilians and he would not have been alive. Just like India did not do shit when 6 IAF personnel were killed because of PAF action they would not have cared if abhi was KIA.

India has gone and bought latest long range BVR for Su30 Mki, latest version R-77s. That's not the issue. And if real war breaks out , pakistan and India are so close, few KM differnce in range of BVR wouldn't make a difference.

That was just an excuse for IAF to blame its incompetency on technology. IAF Mirages are more upgraded then PAF F-16s which are more suitable for air combat and MICA is almost as good as AMRAAM 60 km range. IAF acquired large batch of R-77 during the same time as PAF acquired amraam. So stop making excuses.

On 27th Feb, presence of limited number of aircraft at the scene made it easy for pakistan to launch Sows and even then ABhi's Mig 21 crossed LoC. Had he been killed, Modi would have left with no option but to escalate.

When PAF shot down Mig-21 they were well aware of what hallow chest Modi would do incase the pilot is killed. Also 6 of your IAF personnels were killed and what did Modi g do? NOTHING.

You shoud check how India and pakistan were threatening each other of missile strike a day before IK announced Abhinandan release with Saudi and US intervention.

Yah, so India was welling to go to full scale war with PAF over abhi but forgot about 1000s of Indian soldiers lives lost from Pakistan army's action over the past year.
Stupid indiot. lol

Lol
Show me any evidence of saudi and us intervention? If not then no point in discussion with you

dont expect facts from Indiots, they will just throw their weird imaginations at you.

 

[SIPRA]

Sanghis and Bhakts are trying very hard to spin some sort of victory, out of the utter humiliation, they faced in Feb 2019.

 

[Leviza]

Why Indians can't understand that releasing Abhinandan in front of the world world was a PR stunt???

They are Brain washed by their media and Hindu nazi people that somehow they are super power and can do what ever they want
Lol

 

[SIPRA]

They are Brain washed by their media and Hindu nazi people that somehow they are super power and can do what ever they want
Lol

Haqeeqat main intiha darjay kay bayghaerat haen.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

The article misses the point. Modi had a domestic audience to please, yes. But he did something Indians wanted for a long time - to put Pakistan on the backfoot. Yes, Pakistan had a calibrated response the next day but Pak has been remembering Gandhi and Nehru ever since. Everyone would like peace. But Pakistan's bravado in using non state actors against India and thinking India can't respond has vaporized. Even if one buys every Pak argument that only trees were hit and that they shot down 2 jets and India didn't shoot down anything - then too, the point was that India will strike inside Pak if it wants to escalate and is willing to bet the odds in such a scenario. It almost certainly takes out Pakistani non state actors from the India Pak equation for the foreseeable future. And Pak can't attack India with its regular armed forces. That's it.

Our poor economy is the main reason you are jumping from the seat. Had we be a strong economy, we could had put you on backfoot like we did on 1990s(including 1999) and 2001-2002 Operation Parakaram

And for non state actors dude you cowards tried hard to get Pakistan Black listed bcz you were afraid of "Pakistani Backed NTAs" otherwise if FATF wouldn't had happened Pulvama and Mumbai would had continued plus you guys witnessing 27 Feb Humiliation more often

 

[tkmd]

These mallus act like Pakistan will just stand still and India will learn all these lessons and then come back like some unstoppable alien army. Pakistan defended itself and has PROOF that it shot a jet down. The Indians have no proof of the same. Furthermore our forces learned things as well and will be preparing for the next engagement. And on top of that our leadership understands at every level that the economy is the foundation of our strength.

 

[Ultima Thule]

A Rubicon has been crossed that day.
Even Pakistan doesn't deny India bombs dropped 60Km inside pakistan proper.
Gahfoor didn't know SoWs were used, hence first tweeted Indian jets came and dropped their pay load in the jungle and left.

first decide yourself, your mighty/vedic IAF claimed that we intrude Pakistani airspace and stayed 21 minutes which is ridiculous, and within few days your mighty/vedic IAF Change its narratives and said we didn't Intrude in Pakistani airspace instead Spice-2000, And Gahfoor is Military man and not troll like you, he knows better then you what is SOW, within hours of Indian ridiculous claims of killing of your so called 300 terrorists, became ridiculous because lots of International satellite image experts presented the pictures of that building that had intact and standing, these images shows on various international news paper/website like New York Times/Routers/ CNN/BBC etc etc

Pakistan would always respond, it's not that India didn't take into account Pakistan's retaliatory response and likely escalation when they launched Balakot strikes.
Now with Balakot, India has told the world it wont hesitate to do kinetic action inside Pakistan if terrorism is perpetrated on its soil. Last time war was avoided by whisker after Pakistan agreed to return Abhinandan, next time to it'll be unavoidable. We are in hair trigger situation.

Jay Hyperpower of the Universe HIND you can't able to take our part of Kashmir in 70 years and talk like shit, and we are not responsible every big terror events in India, all big terror Incidents like AIR INDIA HIJACKING IN AFGHNISTAN ( WHICH RESULT MILITARY STANDOFF BETWEEN INDIA AND PAKISTAN)/ PARLIMENT ATTACK/ MUMBAI ATTACKS, PULWAMA/URI/PATHANKOT ATTACKS ARE YOUR BELOVED R&w DRAMAS TO SPREAD A PROPAGANDA AGAINST PAKISTAN
INTERNATIONALLY, YOU HAVE NO PROOFS TO PROVE THAT THESE TERROR INCIDENT CONTDUCTED BY PAKISTANI SO CALLED TERRORIST

YOU'RE THE BIGGEST MESS/THREAT FOR THE PEACE OF SUBCONTINENT

JAY TERRORIST HIND

 

[Zarvan]

This guy wants PAF to buy F-35. Also wants 2-3 nuclear powered subs.

5th Generation will come and if USA offers F-35 which I think in next few years they would. We can consider them and Nuclear Submarines at least 3 are also what Navy has in mind.

 

[Longhorn]

The article misses the point. Modi had a domestic audience to please, yes. But he did something Indians wanted for a long time - to put Pakistan on the backfoot. Yes, Pakistan had a calibrated response the next day but Pak has been remembering Gandhi and Nehru ever since. Everyone would like peace. But Pakistan's bravado in using non state actors against India and thinking India can't respond has vaporized. Even if one buys every Pak argument that only trees were hit and that they shot down 2 jets and India didn't shoot down anything - then too, the point was that India will strike inside Pak if it wants to escalate and is willing to bet the odds in such a scenario. It almost certainly takes out Pakistani non state actors from the India Pak equation for the foreseeable future. And Pak can't attack India with its regular armed forces. That's it.

There was a point established that day not once but a number of times.
The first was that we will retaliate Indian aggression every time. The second was that we will retaliate that aggression many times over. The third was that we have live intelligence assets within the Indian system that served their purpose when the time came.
The only way Indian objectives of setting a new normal would have been achieved would have been if a) Pakistan had not retaliated b) if India had maintained escalation until Pakistan backed down. Neither happened. In the end it was Pakistan threatening escalation which made the Indians back down from their threatened missile strikes.
The only message that was sent out that day was that if the Indians fancy their chances, they had better be prepared to go all the way or stay at home.

 

[Kaniska]

If any one should get credit for avoiding Indo Pak war last year, then give credit to Saudi Arab and UAE....1st time they played significant role in making a deal of peace last year..

 

[Longhorn]

If any one should get credit for avoiding Indo Pak war last year, then give credit to Saudi Arab and UAE....1st time they played significant role in making a deal of peace last year..

You can give credit to who you want. Fact is we successfully retaliated your intrusion then successfully deterred your threatened missile attack.
Not a lot more to it as far as we are concerned.
You can give credit to who you want, we know what really happened.