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[skybolt]

 

[Readerdefence]

Cograts for sale of 52 Mushak
Hope to see T 129 deal soon

I was thinking of writing this but then I thought not relevant thread

 

[fatman17]

Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) and BAE Systems have announced that they will ink the TFX design and development agreement that was signed by both companies in January at this year’s International Defence Industry Fair (IDEF) 2017. Valued at almost $130 million, the deal will see BAE assisting TAI with the design and development of the TFX next-generation multi-role fighter. It has also been reported that Pakistan may be interested in participating in the project, with Turkish industry and Pakistan’s Ministry of Defence Production speaking on what future collaboration would look like. However, the Pakistan Air Force has yet to comment on whether it would be interested in participating in producing and procuring such an aircraft.

 

[fatman17]

https://twitter.com/x/status/862385807973208064

 

[Cool_Soldier]

Milgem is the most limely next deal.
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we welcome any great ball rolling in to our court.

 

[JPMM]

There is an article about PAF Alouette III in a Portuguese blog

http://www.passarodeferro.com/2015/01/o-alouette-iii-no-paquistao-m1777.html

 

[WarFariX]

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

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Not far from what the MoDP told Anadolu Agency:

"Turkey will start to produce its own national war plane in 10 years. First, the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) will provide support for the integration of our factory, and the second phase will be a business alliance with the British Air Force, and at that point we will be the partner of this program in Pakistan."

http://aa.com.tr/tr/dunya/savunma-sanayisinde-dev-projeler-hayata-gecirecegiz/814384
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[fatman17]

If ordered nowby a foreign customer, FC-31 could enter the production as early as 2019 and achieve IOC in 2022.

- Last Updated 5/11/17

 

[fatman17]

Industry

Turkey buys 52 Super Mushshak training aircraft from Pakistan

Lale Sariibrahimoglu, Istanbul - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

11 May 2017

Turkey has signed a contract with the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) Kamra for the procurement of 52 MFI-17 Super Mushshak primary trainers, according to a statement issued by the Turkish Defence Industries Undersecretariat (SSM).

Turkey has signed a contract with Pakistan for the procurement of 52 Super Mushshak training aircraft. (PAC)

The contract was signed on 10 May on the sidelines of the 2017 IDEF defence exhibition in Istanbul in a ceremony presided over by Turkish defence minister Fikri Isik and Pakistan's minister for defence production, Tanvir Hussain.

The value of the contract was not disclosed.

The aircraft are set to replace the Turkish Air Force's ageing T-41D Mescalero and SF-260D trainers.

The Super Mushshak is a PAC licence-built version of the Saab MFI-17 Supporter aircraft. Around 46 of these trainers are currently in service with the Pakistan Air Force (PAF), with the first ones being commissioned in the year 2000, according to Jane's World Air Forces.

In addition to the PAF, the aircraft has been acquired by the air forces of Iran, Iraq, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Nigeria.

In 2015 officials of Pakistan's Ministry of Defence announced that Turkey had donated 34 of its Cessna T-37 trainers to the PAF in a move that strengthened defence relations between the two countries.

 

[WarFariX]

If ordered nowby a foreign customer, FC-31 could enter the production as early as 2019 and achieve IOC in 2022.

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Not good until WS-13E enters full production and is fully ready to operate

 

[fatman17]

Not good until WS-13E enters full production and is fully ready to operate

One image taken in December 2013 suggested that FC-31 was testing a new silver color "stealth" nozzle similar to those onboard J-20. The 02 prototype was expected to feature "major" improvements in order to make it moreattractive to domestic/foreign customers. Those improvements include a one-piece canopy, domestic WS-13E turbofan engines, a retractable IFR probe on the starboard side, a longer and fatter fuselage, a bigger internal weapon bay, reshaped F-35 stylevertical tailfins and cropped wing tips and tailfin tips similar to those of F-22. It wasrumored that the 01 prototype powered by two upgraded WS-13E turbofan engines flew for the first time on July 1, 2016. An AVIC promotional video released at the 2016 Zhuhai Airshow indicated the 02 prototype has been built and was preparing for themaiden flight. The high-speed taxiing test of the 02 prototype started on December 18, 2016. Its first flight took place on December 23, 2016, powered by two smokeless WS-13Eengines. Currently the test flight of the 02 prototype continues at SAC. If ordered nowby a foreign customer, FC-31 could enter the production as early as 2019 and achieve IOC in 2022.

- Last Updated 5/11/17

 

[WarFariX]

One image taken in December 2013 suggested that FC-31 was testing a new silver color "stealth" nozzle similar to those onboard J-20. The 02 prototype was expected to feature "major" improvements in order to make it moreattractive to domestic/foreign customers. Those improvements include a one-piece canopy, domestic WS-13E turbofan engines, a retractable IFR probe on the starboard side, a longer and fatter fuselage, a bigger internal weapon bay, reshaped F-35 stylevertical tailfins and cropped wing tips and tailfin tips similar to those of F-22. It wasrumored that the 01 prototype powered by two upgraded WS-13E turbofan engines flew for the first time on July 1, 2016. An AVIC promotional video released at the 2016 Zhuhai Airshow indicated the 02 prototype has been built and was preparing for themaiden flight. The high-speed taxiing test of the 02 prototype started on December 18, 2016. Its first flight took place on December 23, 2016, powered by two smokeless WS-13Eengines. Currently the test flight of the 02 prototype continues at SAC. If ordered nowby a foreign customer, FC-31 could enter the production as early as 2019 and achieve IOC in 2022.

- Last Updated 5/11/17

Yes yes i know all this , i am keeping up with every thing on FC-31 from 1 year. Now the thing is , WS-13A/E unlike the successful WS-15 engine is having some shortfalls. It will take more than 4 years yet . Even if FC-31 is exported by 2019 , the jet will be useless in terms of carrying payload. I read this on CDJBY.NET

 

[imadul]

Yes yes i know all this , i am keeping up with every thing on FC-31 from 1 year. Now the thing is , WS-13A/E unlike the successful WS-15 engine is having some shortfalls. It will take more than 4 years yet . Even if FC-31 is exported by 2019 , the jet will be useless in terms of carrying payload. I read this on CDJBY.NET

Then just keep flying with rd33 derivative. Russian izdeliye 30 for pakfa also some years away, and thats if russian willing to export.
Is there any chinese developing their own? Not a reverse engineered one!

 

[WarFariX]

Then just keep flying with rd33 derivative. Russian izdeliye 30 for pakfa also some years away, and thats if russian willing to export.
Is there any chinese developing their own? Not a reverse engineered one!

WS-15 has chinese indigenous core which was when seen by russian engine manufacturing compane men praised it too much and called it "Innovative" tech back in 2006. WS-15 is a promising engine. RD-33 has nothing to do with Ws-13E. Core us different one again here. and for your information, ws13E is already integrated on J31V2