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[Ali_Baba]

India is a declining market for Russia as India starts to shop elsewhere(most of her recent deals have been with the USA, UK, France, Germany). Russia needs to act, to save her industry.

 

[sathya]

India is a declining market for Russia as India starts to shop elsewhere(most of her recent deals have been with the USA, UK, France, Germany). Russia needs to act, to save her industry.

S400, AK 203, 4 frigate s , Nuclear sub lease signed

494 T90 MS, VSHORAD, Kamov Helicopter, additional 8-18 Su 30 mki , Su 30 upgrade deal to be signed. .

Declining market ?

 

[syed_yusuf]

S400, AK 203, 4 frigate s , Nuclear sub lease signed

494 T90 MS, VSHORAD, Kamov Helicopter, additional 8-18 Su 30 mki , Su 30 upgrade deal to be signed. .

Declining market ?

Good for india - spend, but do it wisely ... T90, su-30mki etc etc are technologies of yesterday it seems they are stuck in this cycle since 70's. always buy behind technology and then struggle to use it in a very meaningful way except that of mirage 2000.

 

[khanasifm]

Azm design completed ??

Must be high level and not detailed design ?? 2 years seem very quick unless as suggested existing design modified jf or fc-31 etc

Business community urged to capitalize on investment opportunities in aviation industry https://nation.com.pk/19-Apr-2019/b...investment-opportunities-in-aviation-industry

 

[Maxpane]

Azm design completed ??

Must be high level and not detailed design ?? 2 years seem very quick unless as suggested existing design modified jf or fc-31 etc

Business community urged to capitalize on investment opportunities in aviation industry https://nation.com.pk/19-Apr-2019/b...investment-opportunities-in-aviation-industry

thats interesting news

 

[sathya]

Good for india - spend, but do it wisely ... T90, su-30mki etc etc are technologies of yesterday it seems they are stuck in this cycle since 70's. always buy behind technology and then struggle to use it in a very meaningful way except that of mirage 2000.

Ironically Mirage upgrade going too slow..like 1or 2 per year
Su 30 mki is for replacement of lost aircraft s.
T90 MS is upgraded ones, with a demand of 80% local components instead of 40 %.
Frigate I agree could be made in starving indian shipyards.

momentum is gained because of Rupee-Ruble trade to counter CAATSA.

 

[salman-1]

Mig 35 is actually on cards of Paf. Advantages attached are same engine maintenance facilities as of Jf17. It's been marketed aggressively by Russians, one e.g is sale agreement with Egypt. Full testing completed in 2017-18. Now serial production under way. Russians offering Aesa radar, infrared and all its modern fire arms. Russian Air force already ordered around 180 of these birds and upgrading present Mig 29 fleet. Production facility already of Mig 29. So production in numbers not a problem. It's endurance is 2.5 to 3 hrs with internal fuel and Ifr probe retractable. With Air to Air refuelling 6hrs of endurance. Russian offered it to Pakistan instead of Su 35 when Pakistan tested Su 35. It's comparable to blk 70 F16s as sensor suit is said to be better. Pakistan desperately looking for Rafael comparison and could only offered this economical solution. I personally think it's a viable solution.

 

[mingle]

Ironically Mirage upgrade going too slow..like 1or 2 per year
Su 30 mki is for replacement of lost aircraft s.
T90 MS is upgraded ones, with a demand of 80% local components instead of 40 %.
Frigate I agree could be made in starving indian shipyards.

momentum is gained because of Rupee-Ruble trade to counter CAATSA.

India should go for tejas route like PAF went to JF17 to replace legacy jets along 250 MKI with 36to 72 Rafale is more than enough. There is nothing better than having ur own baby cheap reliable can marry with any weapon future upgrades what else u want.

Ironically Mirage upgrade going too slow..like 1or 2 per year
Su 30 mki is for replacement of lost aircraft s.
T90 MS is upgraded ones, with a demand of 80% local components instead of 40 %.
Frigate I agree could be made in starving indian shipyards.

momentum is gained because of Rupee-Ruble trade to counter CAATSA.

Trump is in the mood of trade war with India as they did with China, Canada, Mexico, EU they forcing India to buy F16s blk 70 on the name of F21to avoid S400 sactions Beleive me there is no difference between F16V and F21 r almost same best for india is teja nothing more let's see india scummbed to Trump pressure or not?

Mig 35 is actually on cards of Paf. Advantages attached are same engine maintenance facilities as of Jf17. It's been marketed aggressively by Russians, one e.g is sale agreement with Egypt. Full testing completed in 2017-18. Now serial production under way. Russians offering Aesa radar, infrared and all its modern fire arms. Russian Air force already ordered around 180 of these birds and upgrading present Mig 29 fleet. Production facility already of Mig 29. So production in numbers not a problem. It's endurance is 2.5 to 3 hrs with internal fuel and Ifr probe retractable. With Air to Air refuelling 6hrs of endurance. Russian offered it to Pakistan instead of Su 35 when Pakistan tested Su 35. It's comparable to blk 70 F16s as sensor suit is said to be better. Pakistan desperately looking for Rafael comparison and could only offered this economical solution. I personally think it's a viable solution.

Mig 35 Taylored according to PAF needs can carry exocit and chines Anti ship missles and RAAD r good enough to replace mirages.

 

[Syed1.]

Azm design completed ??

Must be high level and not detailed design ?? 2 years seem very quick unless as suggested existing design modified jf or fc-31 etc

Business community urged to capitalize on investment opportunities in aviation industry https://nation.com.pk/19-Apr-2019/b...investment-opportunities-in-aviation-industry

Seems like it took them 2 years to just come up with the 3D CAD model... if that is true then it isn't some extraordinary achievement. Any mechanical engineer kid can spend a month and come up with a SolidWorks/AutoCAD model of a jet, it might be the prettiest jet ever but with zero practicality since none of the parts would have been designed using computational fluid dynamics (CFD) analysis or radar cross section study.

Maybe they are going old school way, designing on computer and then 3D printing a 1:100 size model then doing wind tunnel testing on it and analyzing the results. These days you don't have to do that you can run far more advanced software analysis.

 

[loanranger]

Seems like it took them 2 years to just come up with the 3D CAD model... if that is true then it isn't some extraordinary achievement. Any mechanical engineer kid can spend a month and come up with a SolidWorks/AutoCAD model of a jet, it might be the prettiest jet ever but with zero practicality since none of the parts would have been designed using computational fluid dynamics (CFD) analysis or radar cross section study.

Maybe they are going old school way, designing on computer and then 3D printing a 1:100 size model then doing wind tunnel testing on it and analyzing the results. These days you don't have to do that you can run far more advanced software analysis.

Man you really know how things work

 

[Syed1.]

Man you really know how things work

I sense sarcasm

 

[Vortex]

Seems like it took them 2 years to just come up with the 3D CAD model... if that is true then it isn't some extraordinary achievement. Any mechanical engineer kid can spend a month and come up with a SolidWorks/AutoCAD model of a jet, it might be the prettiest jet ever but with zero practicality since none of the parts would have been designed using computational fluid dynamics (CFD) analysis or radar cross section study.

Maybe they are going old school way, designing on computer and then 3D printing a 1:100 size model then doing wind tunnel testing on it and analyzing the results. These days you don't have to do that you can run far more advanced software analysis.

Do we have advanced softwares to run such advances analysis without going to wind tunnels?

 

[Syed1.]

Do we have advanced softwares to run such advances analysis without going to wind tunnels?

T.orrent.s

 

[Rafi]

Project Azm is the domestic production of the J31 with some added hot source, indigenous and some allied ingredients.

Project Azm will allow us to build as many as required, which will be substantial.

 

[Vortex]

T.orrent.s

I would have opted for darknet.