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Second batch of what ??It looks second batch has been received to PAF.
Congrats.
Can anyone confirm units numbers?
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Second batch of what ??It looks second batch has been received to PAF.
Congrats.
Can anyone confirm units numbers?
Rafale is indeed superior to J-10C I think. MKI is simply too outdated while Rafale is something PAF needs to counter since MKI is mainly a threat in numbers and in how IAF can operate using such a dinosaur fighter. It is less sophisticated but MKI is undeniably capable in bringing many missiles into the air. PAF however has JF-17 as its high volume fighter. IAF's main strength over PAF is huge numbers advantage.
To simply say MKI would eat J-10C is retarded. Yes 200 MKI would indeed eat 24 J-10C lol but 1 vs 1. Every airforce person in knowledge of these would bet their money and their lives on J-10C defeating MKI. PLAAF own exercises even J-10B can defeat Su-35 with relative ease. J-10C against Su-35 wasn't a competition. It is J-10C choosing when to engage and how to engage every time. Big flankers only come into their strength when the rest of the airforce allows them to use their strength appropriately. Rafale is IAF's top end fighter and to tie everything together, to kick down the door, to supress adversary electronic and battlefield assets.
Simply you are correct. IAF requires more Rafale. PAF's counter to Rafale since that's the order of acquisition, is J-10C. If they want to properly counter, the PAF needs more J-10C and greater support from ground to other in the air. Before Rafale, IAF had no modern 4.5 generation fighter and no modern air to air missile.
This is biggest proof that's MKI was hit by AMRAAM in Indian airspace you troll you're brainwashed by your military/ govt
The SU-30MKI would eat the J-10C for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
negotiated a 3.2 billion dollar grant aid for the relief of pandit showbaaz goremint --in order to avoid default-- to the chagrin of imam e ahzam.Possibly the reason COAS quietly ( no ISPR announcement of much a do planned trip ) flew to China week or so ago to hash out the payment for much a needed J-10s ?
as many as France can produce, I assume. today I saw saeed qazi, a pro khan TV presenter and his screaming sidekick arif bhatti praising india. extolling the virtues of honest indian politicians who have helped india accumulate more than 600 billion dollars in reserves. "heck they earn 150 billion dollars a year in IT exports alone". then they went on to show pictures of many futuristic and posh buildings from india to show what a prosperous country it was while lamenting that Pakistani establishment has brought back the crooks to power.Hone many Rafale India is able to afford to counter China’s Might.
lol Pakistani trolls on a Pakistani website. Are you an idiot?
No @Samar111 is an INDIOT not an idiotlol Pakistani trolls on a Pakistani website. Are you an idiot?
They claim they shot down our jet in our airspace not their and airspace and @Samar111 is just a baseless Indian troll and nothing else we should ignore him brotherIf India has shot down an F-16, why not just show parts from the plane instead of the missile?
I don’t appreciate the term..No @Samar111 is an INDIOT not an idiot
You really are a real life version of wimp lo
Exactly that Indian member is an Indiot.
Rafale's SPECTRA is an integrated defensive system. J-10's defensive system is largely unknown. JF-17 should be able to get an integrated defensive system in Block III.Rafale is indeed superior to J-10C I think. MKI is simply too outdated while Rafale is something PAF needs to counter since MKI is mainly a threat in numbers and in how IAF can operate using such a dinosaur fighter. It is less sophisticated but MKI is undeniably capable in bringing many missiles into the air. PAF however has JF-17 as its high volume fighter. IAF's main strength over PAF is huge numbers advantage.
To simply say MKI would eat J-10C is retarded. Yes 200 MKI would indeed eat 24 J-10C lol but 1 vs 1. Every airforce person in knowledge of these would bet their money and their lives on J-10C defeating MKI. PLAAF own exercises even J-10B can defeat Su-35 with relative ease. J-10C against Su-35 wasn't a competition. It is J-10C choosing when to engage and how to engage every time. Big flankers only come into their strength when the rest of the airforce allows them to use their strength appropriately. Rafale is IAF's top end fighter and to tie everything together, to kick down the door, to supress adversary electronic and battlefield assets.
Simply you are correct. IAF requires more Rafale. PAF's counter to Rafale since that's the order of acquisition, is J-10C. If they want to properly counter, the PAF needs more J-10C and greater support from ground to other in the air. Before Rafale, IAF had no modern 4.5 generation fighter and no modern air to air missile.
Your SU30S are being shot down by obsolete soviet era Mig 29As from the 1980s in Ukraine
2020s russian junk is being shot down by 1980s soviet junk in Ukraine. Only real threat to the PAF are the few dozen Mirage 2000s and Rafales. Mirage 2000s are mainly focused on ground strike. The IAF only have a few dozen jets capable of precision guided strikes. Rafales will be split across the China/Pak frontier whereby PAF will be able to focus its full resources along the Indian frontier.
In the next conflict I can bet 5 bitcoins that the PAF/Pakistani forces will eat IAF/Indian forces up.
How did you work out that Rafale is superior to J-10C?
In high-altitude engagements J-10C will have the edge since it is canard-delta design and the PL-15 will be very competitive with Meteor, with the Meteor having a slight edge.
I expect the radar and electronics on the J-10C to be the equal of anything in the Rafale.