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PAF New Batch J-10 C Spotted

It looks second batch has been received to PAF.
Congrats.
Can anyone confirm units numbers?
 
Possibly the reason COAS quietly ( no ISPR announcement of much a do planned trip ) flew to China week or so ago to hash out the payment for much a needed J-10s ?
he was not alone high rank officials from PAF and Navy also accompanied him.
 
We need more rafales :coffee:

Rafale is indeed superior to J-10C I think. MKI is simply too outdated while Rafale is something PAF needs to counter since MKI is mainly a threat in numbers and in how IAF can operate using such a dinosaur fighter. It is less sophisticated but MKI is undeniably capable in bringing many missiles into the air. PAF however has JF-17 as its high volume fighter. IAF's main strength over PAF is huge numbers advantage.

To simply say MKI would eat J-10C is retarded. Yes 200 MKI would indeed eat 24 J-10C lol but 1 vs 1. Every airforce person in knowledge of these would bet their money and their lives on J-10C defeating MKI. PLAAF own exercises even J-10B can defeat Su-35 with relative ease. J-10C against Su-35 wasn't a competition. It is J-10C choosing when to engage and how to engage every time. Big flankers only come into their strength when the rest of the airforce allows them to use their strength appropriately. Rafale is IAF's top end fighter and to tie everything together, to kick down the door, to supress adversary electronic and battlefield assets.

Simply you are correct. IAF requires more Rafale. PAF's counter to Rafale since that's the order of acquisition, is J-10C. If they want to properly counter, the PAF needs more J-10C and greater support from ground to other in the air. Before Rafale, IAF had no modern 4.5 generation fighter and no modern air to air missile.
 
The SU-30MKI would eat the J-10C for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Your SU30S are being shot down by obsolete soviet era Mig 29As from the 1980s in Ukraine :D

Su-30MKI wouldn't even be able to touch a JF-17 block 2 in reality.

JF-17 block 2 already has superior radar and missiles to MKI. Block 3 will see MKI from 50km further at least and engage at around 50km more if it is required. Superior jammers too. Much smaller RCS compared to the dinosaur MKI.

J-10C would eat not only MKI for breakfast lunch and dinner every day every minute, J-10C could eat Su-35S for breakfast lunch and dinner. Play around with Su-35 electronics like it is nothing. Electronics and software is 99% of battle now with fighters. Su-35 is already a laggard. Su-30MKI is from over 10 years before Su-35S.

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For the moment, Su-30MKI has proven unable to even attack JF-17 and Mirage 2000. Proven. Su-30MKI went up in numbers against PAF and got Fcked sideways. Triple penetrated by JF-17, F-16, and Mirage 2000.

2020s russian junk is being shot down by 1980s soviet junk in Ukraine. Only real threat to the PAF are the few dozen Mirage 2000s and Rafales. Mirage 2000s are mainly focused on ground strike. The IAF only have a few dozen jets capable of precision guided strikes. Rafales will be split across the China/Pak frontier whereby PAF will be able to focus its full resources along the Indian frontier.

Force posturing makes a huge difference. Anyone who disagrees doesnt know anything about military strategy. Russia-Ukraine is perfect example today. Russia is unable to dedicated 100% of its airforce capabilities to its Ukraine front because it still has to guard a huge frontier again Finland, the baltics, Turkey, China, etc... It has only been able to dedicate at best 10-20% of its air power.

In a conflict India will be in a similar situation being unable to dedicate more than 50-60% of its air combat power against pakistan. Pakistan will dedicate 90% against India (China/Iran are great friends/Afghanistan has no air force :D ). For Pakistan its as simple as getting China to move 200-300 jets along the indian border to physchologically and physically bog down IAF forces.

In the next conflict I can bet 5 bitcoins that the PAF/Pakistani forces will eat IAF/Indian forces up.
 
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The SU-30MKI would eat the J-10C for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
You can continue living in denial, if you think an aircraft with inferior missiles, kinematics, radar, EW will stand a change against a J-10C. Your "Raptor of the East" got it's fucking *** handed to it by F-16s and Block-2 JF-17s. The Block 3 and a J-10C are an entirely different league.

Forget trying to eat anything, it ended choking up on an AMRAAM.
Remember when both your SU-30s and MK2s ran away you had to rely on the MiG-21s to save face.
Correction, they had to rely on the MiG-21s to be the sacrificial lamb.
 
The SU-30MKI would eat the J-10C for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
No doubt, SU-30MKI won't even need to run on both engines to do it too, just a single engine would do. The ESO won't have to bother about the aerial combat and could just indulge in sexting with his significant other with selfies. Pilot with one hand tied behind his hand, one eye closed and a hap hazard attempt and that all he would need to accomplish this insignificant feat.
 

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