PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[Mohsin123]

and who told SR about J10C at first place ? Martians ? and there is nothing to tell you since you lack simple assessment of the events regarding Pakistan's potential buy of J10C even before this topic.

Before bringing martians into the discussions try to use some logical thinking even if its a big deal for you!!!!!!
btw to clear your thoughts do you know about the saga of J10 being inducted into PAF since the time of Musharraf when the same SR was the information minister ??? again to make it even more simpler for you the news of J10s being inducted in PAF is going around since 10 years

 

[The Eagle]

Growlers!!

I see that happening but with new approach and tech within the structure proving enough to do the job. We ain't looking at a particular airframe with specific job. Whole fleet will carry such capability within its airframe.

 

[TopGun786]

can't see any image?

There is no image.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Before bringing martians into the discussions try to use some logical thinking even if its a big deal for you!!!!!!
btw to clear your thoughts do you know about the saga of J10 being inducted into PAF since the time of Musharraf when the same SR was the information minister ??? again to make it even more simpler for you the news of J10s being inducted in PAF is going around since 10 years

During Musharaf days, it was offered but no minister that time claimed it like the way SR did it on Dec 28,2021. Moreever, PAF was getting Block 52s that time so there was no need for the J10A back than and most of our money was going into JF17s program nor India was getting anything like Rafales that time. Mind you, if we had a continued supply of F16s especially block 72s than PAF would had not opted for J10Cs at all.

 

[TopGun786]

1- J10C (E/P) is coming? ... 100%. There should not be any doubt. It is very clear and 110% confirmed.

2- When? ... Don't know exactly but 90% chances are before mid of March.

3- Will perform flypast on the 23rd of March? Chances are 50/50 so far.

4- Total numbers ? ... 25 possibly by now. At least 36-50 in total.

5- In Pakistani colors? YES

6- Engine: WS-10 most likely.

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[RIP Pak LAW]

Forget SR, most of the well informed members here have been claiming about J10s for the last 1 year or so. Ten years back, it was always on the menu but no member here was confirming the purchase so that time, talk remained as talk.

3- Will perform flypast on the 23rd of March? Chances are 50/50 so far.

If the planes land before March 23rd, in case if they are not here already, than flypast of 3-4 J10Cs will most likely take place. Though SR's claim of 25 J10Cs participating in the flypast looks dubious.

 

[Mohsin123]

During Musharaf days, it was offered but no minister that time claimed it like the way SR did it on Dec 28,2021. Moreever, PAF was getting Block 52s that time so there was no need for the J10A back than and most of our money was going into JF17s program nor India was getting anything like Rafales that time. Mind you, if we had a continued supply of F16s especially block 72s than PAF would had not opted for J10Cs at all.

Now you are making some valid points instesd of banking too much on what Sheikh Rasheed says !!!!! we will definitly know on 23rd March was he well informed or doing his usual bit of throwing news around....
Let's agree to disagree you are right that PAF waited long for F-16s but if you also see PAF's history , they have never inducted any aircraft for air defence or air dominance role if its not combat proven even if how good its on paper, for JF17 its our own baby and we can tweak and improve it as we see fit, we will never have this luxury with J10s how close are we to China PL15 is integrated on Block IIIs which makes the difference between two quantitative than qualitative. I mean no offence to our chinese brothers here they have developed a beautiful bird but we will not know for sure how effective it is unless combat proven, this point in my opinion has always made PAF hold back on J10 induction, you must also recall the induction of ZDK-03 was more of a political move to have close cooperation with chinese. Since then we are inducting more Eriyes and using them extensively. So my two cents Interior Minister SR or some reputable members here are not a credible source for multi billion dollar defence purchases, only ISPR or MoD are, or some credible leaked infos like future tenders or valid photographs,
But we will know for sure in coming months so fingures crossed!!!!!

 

[NA71]

Now you are making some valid points instesd of banking too much on what Sheikh Rasheed says !!!!! we will definitly know on 23rd March was he well informed or doing his usual bit of throwing news around....
Let's agree to disagree you are right that PAF waited long for F-16s but if you also see PAF's history , they have never inducted any aircraft for air defence or air dominance role if its not combat proven even if how good its on paper, for JF17 its our own baby and we can tweak and improve it as we see fit, we will never have this luxury with J10s how close are we to China PL15 is integrated on Block IIIs which makes the difference between two quantitative than qualitative. I mean no offence to our chinese brothers here they have developed a beautiful bird but we will not know for sure how effective it is unless combat proven, this point in my opinion has always made PAF hold back on J10 induction, you must also recall the induction of ZDK-03 was more of a political move to have close cooperation with chinese. Since then we are inducting more Eriyes and using them extensively. So my two cents Interior Minister SR or some reputable members here are not a credible source for multi billion dollar defence purchases, only ISPR or MoD are, or some credible leaked infos like future tenders or valid photographs,
But we will know for sure in coming months so fingures crossed!!!!!

Shaikh Rashid is not opening his mouth repeatedly without the consent of sarkar...He was told to open the discussion and since thn he is doing the job on regular intervals.

 

[Mohsin123]

Shaikh Rashid is not opening his mouth repeatedly without the consent of sarkar...He was told to open the discussion and since thn he is doing the job on regular intervals.

You might be right, let's not use scarcastic slurrs so i will say the armed forces, this is not a pradigm shifting news like test of an ICBM or bieng in a NATO like military alliance with some one, so that armed forces or the Gov. might need a feeler about national or international reaction, it is the induction of a 4.5 gen aircraft which is quite common in the world

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Now you are making some valid points instesd of banking too much on what Sheikh Rasheed says !!!!! we will definitly know on 23rd March was he well informed or doing his usual bit of throwing news around....
Let's agree to disagree you are right that PAF waited long for F-16s but if you also see PAF's history , they have never inducted any aircraft for air defence or air dominance role if its not combat proven even if how good its on paper, for JF17 its our own baby and we can tweak and improve it as we see fit, we will never have this luxury with J10s how close are we to China PL15 is integrated on Block IIIs which makes the difference between two quantitative than qualitative. I mean no offence to our chinese brothers here they have developed a beautiful bird but we will not know for sure how effective it is unless combat proven, this point in my opinion has always made PAF hold back on J10 induction, you must also recall the induction of ZDK-03 was more of a political move to have close cooperation with chinese. Since then we are inducting more Eriyes and using them extensively. So my two cents Interior Minister SR or some reputable members here are not a credible source for multi billion dollar defence purchases, only ISPR or MoD are, or some credible leaked infos like future tenders or valid photographs,
But we will know for sure in coming months so fingures crossed!!!!!

ISPR or MOD will only gonna reveal information when official ceremony has taken place so you have to rely on non official but credible sources from multiple places. SR not as a politician alone but as an interior minister is indeed a credible source so as many well informed PDF members here.

ZDK-03 were probably purchased as an emergency order as a back up when our 1-2 Erieyes were damaged/destroyed in a terrorist attack. Issue with ZDK-03 was their compatibility with F16s as Americans doesn't let their machines talk with Russian and Chinese devices so ZDK-03 always had thunders only to talk with but now with J10Cs and much capable JF17 in the form of block3s, ZDK-03 can be utilized to their optimum capabilities moving forward.

 

[NA71]

"It should be a test flight before delivery, just like when you buy a car, you always have to find an experienced master to inspect the car."​

Taken from the commentary going on .....links:

https://m.weibo.cn/2139949234/4737173066879457
https://m.weibo.cn/2139949234/4737178305304289

also they are discussing nos that will be dispatched in first go. ....

 

[Shabi1]

What is your source for that?

"Pakistan contributed greatly to the J/F-7M program: although Pakistan did not purchase any F-7M and later returned all 20 F-7M's to China after evaluation to require China to provide a better fighter (which eventually resulted in F-7MP and F-7P), Pakistan did provide important support for F-7M program, after the then Vice Chief of the Air Staff of Pakistani Air Force (PAF) Air marshal Jamal A. Khan inspected prototypes in test flights in July 1983 at Dalian. Pakistani contribution includes:"

List of Chengdu J-7 variants - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[farooqbhai007]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1493542682962059264

 

[NA71]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1493542682962059264

Zalim you found it on twitter ...i was searching that forum very hard......apparently you are first one ...

 

[siegecrossbow]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1493542682962059264

If I am not mistaken this is WS-10 engine. No wonder we didn’t hear any drama involving Russians. Not that it would matter now that they are so close to the Chinese due to geopolitical reasons.