Those who are repeating the rhetoric of "basic Tenant"
BRING YOUR PROOF
where does it say that not believing Muhammad as last prophet kicks you out of islam??? Go pick up up your Quran from higher-dusty place that you have kept it at, safe & secure, so you don't ever have to touch it or read it.
Prophet Ibraheim was a Muslim too, he never mentioned Muhammad & was born centuries before him.
How could Ibraheim be a Muslim then???
Jesus was a Muslim too & so were his disciples. They never declared finality of Prophet Muhammad.
Q:3:52:When
Jesus found unbelief on their part, he said: "Who will be my helpers to (the work of) Allah?" Said the Disciples: "We are Allah's helpers we believe in Allah and do thou bear witness that
we are Muslims.
Q:3:67:Ibrahim was not a Jew, nor a Nazarene, but he was
an upright Muslim, nor was he of the associators.
You guys are like stubborn idolators who were told not to worship idols & they said why not we saw our forefathers doing so.
Your forefathers told you a bunch of BS & you are sticking to it without bothering to read the original scripture.
...ahmadi doctrine makes a mockery out of Islam and all Muslim majority countries got together and declared them non-Muslim so the verdict should stand, it is one of the few things all Muslims regardless of sect ever agreed upon.
NOT a single country besides Pakistan has declared them non-Muslims.
Quran says don't lie. Since
you lied & you went against Quran
so I declare YOU a non-Muslim now,,, how about that...
Quran says dead don't hear, some
Brailvis intercede with ppl in graves. So they are making mockery of Islam. Declare them non-Muslim too. WHY pick-&-choose.
Shia believe in 12 Imams & believe they are
divinely ordained & receive Wahi from ALLAH... So they believe in
12 men after Prophet Muhammad who
receive revelation from ALLAH... They are 12 steps ahead of Mirzais. Declare them non-Muslims too in constitution.
Wahabis say music is haram even though it was being played in Prophet's house itself. So Wahabis make a mockery of Prophet of Islam by saying that Prophet Muhammad allowed HARAAM inside his own house. Declare them Kafir too in constitution.
I've lived with Ahmadis, they are better muslims than grave-interceder-mushriks-Brailvis for example. & Better in practicing Quran & Sunnah than you.
let me tell you why. Prophet Muhammad PBUH said from his own mouth that "there will be none after me, I am the last and the seal of the prophets". The minute they say that is false,
it means they are calling him a liar, if they are calling him a liar then they are calling God a liar because God says in the Quran that Prophet Muhammad only says what he directs him to say so when he said he is the last it means God told him to say he is the last. So you call both our God and our Prophet liars but then expect us to consider you one of our own.
You are liar too, as I proved in start of this post.
Quran says don't lie, the minute you lied you it means you say Quran is false, if you are calling Quran as false, you are basically saying Allah is a liar (Nauzubillah). So I declare YOU a non-Muslim... How about that...
This is NOT proof. Bring proof from Quran & hadees. Period. Or correct yourself.
Sunni, Shia, Wahabi, Brailvi, Ahmadi ALL are Muslims. They might differ.
Some even commit Shirk, the unforgivable sin, by interceding thru ppl in graves. Declare these Mushriks as non-Muslims before anyone else or YOU are going against Quran & you deserve to be declared a non-Muslim before Mirzais...
As long as they fulfil this definition of a "Muslim" they are a Muslim. You can say they are
mis-guided but still Muslim.
Sahih Bukhari:Volumn 6, Book 60, Hadith Number 300.
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Narated By Abu Huraira : One day while Allah's Apostle was sitting with the people, a man(Gabriel in form of a man) came to him walking and said,
"O Allah's Prophet. What is Belief(Eman)?" The
Prophet said, "Belief is to believe in Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Apostles, and the meeting with Him, and to believe in the Resurrection." The man asked,
"O Allah's Apostle What is Islam?" The
Prophet replied, "Islam is to worship Allah and not worship anything besides Him, to offer prayers perfectly, to pay the (compulsory) charity i.e. Zakat and to fast the month of Ramadan." The man again asked, "O Allah's Apostle What is Ihsan (i.e. perfection or Benevolence)?" The Prophet said, "Ihsan is to worship Allah as if you see Him, and if you do not achieve this state of devotion, then (take it for granted that) Allah sees you." The man further asked, "O Allah's Apostle When will the Hour be established?"...
Bukhari:Volumn:1, Book 2, Hadith Number 47.
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Narated By Abu Huraira : One day while the Prophet was sitting in the company of some people, (
The angel) Gabriel came and asked, "What is faith?" Allah's Apostle replied, 'Faith is to believe in Allah, His angels, (the) meeting with Him, His Apostles, and to believe in Resurrection." Then
he further asked, "What is Islam?" Allah's Apostle r
eplied, "To worship Allah Alone and none else, to offer prayers perfectly to pay the compulsory charity (Zakat) and to observe fasts during the month of Ramadan." Then he further asked, "What is Ihsan (perfection)?" Allah's Apostle replied, "To worship Allah as if you see Him, and if you cannot achieve this state of devotion then you must consider that He is looking at you." Then he further asked, "When will the Hour be established?" Allah's Apostle replied, "The answerer has no better knowledge than the questioner. But I will inform you about its portents.
Q:2:285:The apostle believeth in that which is sent down Unto him from his Lord, and so do the believers. Each one believeth in Allah and His angels and His Books and His apostles, saying: we differentiate not between any of His apostles. And they say: we hearken and obey; Thy forgiveness, Our Lord! and Unto Thee is the return!
Q:4:136:O Ye who believe believe in Allahs and His apostle and the Book He hath sent down unto His apostle and the Book He sent down aforetime; and whosoever disbelieveth in Allah and His angels and His Books and His Apostles and the Last Day, hath surely strayed away a far straying.
