Iranian Azaris and their love and loyalty to motherland

[Targon]

There are no Shias in Turkey, Alevis are not even close to Shia Islam of Iran.

May be they were able to understand each other because native language of both families were Turkic ? is it seems possible to you ?

 

[TurAr]

How amusing this is... Radical islamist? Narrow minded with horse glasses?

The level of quality of this thread has crashed since your homeboys destroyed it with trolling and you are accusing of this and that? how old are you?

I thought we were talking about secularism, and how you see it. According to you secularism is nothing but naked womans who are so 'eager' to spoil your 'innocence' with their naked bodies, therefore they should cover themselves so that you can keep that 'innocence' by not letting them give you a boner

You should know that asking people's age is not showing you more intelligent, if you think this thread is below your 'intellectual level' you are free to not answer.

There is not only the issue of constitutional human right abuses of ethnic groups in Turkey. The religious minorities such as Shias and Allavies are also in danger in Turkey.

Indeed we are in danger, because secularism is in danger beucase of people like you who sees it only as allowing brothels, naked womans, and all other Bullshts... but offers nothing else.

 

[Rostam]

some members need more brain

Well you asked for pictures, here you go:

 

[Surenas]

There are no Shias in Turkey, Alevis are not even close to Shia Islam of Iran.

Oh?

 

[Targon]

Just parts of Iğdır and Ağrı, which are essentially Azeri.

 

[Surenas]

Just parts of Iğdır and Ağrı, which are essentially Azeri.

First movie is shot in Istanbul. But you talked about Turkey, and as far as I know, Igdir and Agri are in Turkey.

In Istanbul:

 

[Targon]

People are not forced to stay in their home regions in my country Halkalı has a significiant number of immigrants from Ağrı and Iğdır.

Ok I'm changing it from "no Shias" to "almost no Shias" are you happy ?

 

[Rostam]

No Shias in Turkey? Well my friend you should enlighten yourself though 20% of turkisk population is Shia/Alevi.

Islam in Turkey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia : number of shia/alevis in turkey.

Alevis not even close to Shias? I am now pretty sure I am faced with a bunch of secular turkish teenagers from a rich area in istanbul.
Alevi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Alevis are kind of a branch of shiism


Did you know that the Alevis in Turkey were allies with Iran already hundereds of years ago in wars against Ottoman? Alevi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Alevis in Turkey:

 

[Targon]

As I said Alevis in Turkey are completely different from Shias of Iran , there are just small similarities in concept only, do you even have an idea about their traditions ? ideas ? if we exclude basics of Islam from them, they're just like pagans, shamans.

 

[Rostam]

I can't remember when I asked how big Iran is ? at least we don't have huge *** deserts in our country

Well we do have deserts. If you want us to be precise, there are two big ones, Dasht-e Kavir and Dasht-e Lut, which together account for 129,500 km2 out of total Iranian land area of 1,648,195 km2.

 

[Targon]

Didn't asked

 

[Alienoz_TR]

You know why the ottoman prince could speak with the qajar? Because in the Othoman Empire the educated inhabitants spoke Persian.

Thank you.

You just stepped into my area of profession.

Read this Ottoman text and Show me Persian words. Count their number.

Mah-i Shabanyn ikinci cheharshenbih güninde rikab-i hümayuna Muhafız-i Mısır Vezir Ömer Pasha'dan telhis geldi. Ümera-i Mısırdan Mirliva Zülfikar Beg'i kayd ü bend ile göndermish ve sai bi'l fesad olmak üzere lazim-ül izaledür deyü arz eylemish.

Source:
Vekayinama, Abdurrahman Abdi Pasha, varak No: 56/a

 

[Rostam]

As I said Alevis in Turkey are completely different from Shias of Iran , there are just small similarities in concept only, do you even have an idea about their traditions ? ideas ? if we exclude basics of Islam from them, they're just like pagans, shamans.

Read the sources I gave you. Alevis like Shias belive in the special status of Imam Ali and up to the sixth Imam. The core of their belief is centerd around Ali (as).

free information for you so you now know

 

[Surenas]

Shah of Iran, Reza Pahlavi (Iranian nationalist) talking with Ataturk in Turkish:

That doesn't make him Turkish.

 

[Rostam]

You just stepped into my area of profession.

Read this Ottoman text and Show me Persian words. Count their number.

Mah-i Shabanyn ikinci cheharshenbih güninde rikab-i hümayuna Muhafız-i Mısır Vezir Ömer Pasha'dan telhis geldi. Ümera-i Mısırdan Mirliva Zülfikar Beg'i kayd ü bend ile göndermish ve sai bi'l fesad olmak üzere lazim-ül izaledür deyü arz eylemish.

Source:
Vekayinama, Abdurrahman Abdi Pasha, varak No: 56/a

Read my previous post again. I said according to the source which I presented, during the Ottoman empire, the language amongst educated people were Persian. Period. I did not say that the ruling establishment did not write anything in Turkish.