From Arabization to Turkfication Ertugrul and Pakistani Nationalism

[El Sidd]

Karachi tou hum alag karke rahenge.

tum bandh gali kay musafir ho.

Sindh aur taqseem nahi hone diya jaega. Iske barhne ki omr hai ghatne ki nahi

 

[Cliftonite]

tum bandh gali kay musafir ho.

Sindh aur taqseem nahi hone diya jaega. Iske barhne ki omr hai ghatne ki nahi

Karachi tou alag hoga saieen. Humara tum adaa saieen ke saath guzara nahi. Your feudal culture and Zulfiqar Mirza type warlords disgust us.


Btw Karachi Sindh ka hissa tha bhi nahi Bhutto sarkar se pehle. Federal territory tha aur federal territory hi banay ga. InshaAllah

 

[Hamza913]

The cope within this post is unbearable. The Turk always finds a way to put the region of the Indus valley under his control. Before he did it with blood and steel pillaging the region of its riches and establishing his realm within the heart of Punjab.

Ok calm down lmao, Mahmud's mother was literally from Zabulistan which was firmly entrenched within the Indus valley's sphere of influence. Lahore was also his 2nd largest city and he was culturally more Iranic than anything else. The Turks aren't even descended from the Ghaznavids, the Pashtuns are.

And besides, it's not like Anatolians can claim Central Asian Turkic history anyway.

 

[El Sidd]

Karachi tou alag hoga saieen. Humara tum adaa saieen ke saath guzara nahi. Your feudal culture and Zulfiqar Mirza type warlords disgust us.


Btw Karachi Sindh ka hissa tha bhi nahi Bhutto sarkar se pehle. Federal territory tha aur federal territory hi banay ga. InshaAllah

Karachi to Balochistan ka shehar hai. Balochiyon ne amanat kay liye Sindh ko diya hai.

Aap hamari amanat hain. Pyar mohabbat se samajh jayen. ghareeb Sindhi awam se apko badla lene nahi diya jaega.

warlord androon sindh me ho ya khayaban e shamsheer per. ek hi baat hai hamare liye

 

[El Sidd]

Marson marson Karachi na deson

ye dedh inch ki masjid banane ka keera bani gala se nikalta hai. kuch chirkao karo

 

[Cliftonite]

Karachi to Balochistan ka shehar hai. Balochiyon ne amanat kay liye Sindh ko diya hai.

Aap hamari amanat hain. Pyar mohabbat se samajh jayen. ghareeb Sindhi awam se apko badla lene nahi diya jaega.

warlord androon sindh me ho ya khayaban e shamsheer per. ek hi baat hai hamare liye

Ghareeb Sindhi awaam se humein koi problem nahi. Humein bas aap aur aap jaise privileged feudalistic na -ahl Sindhiyon se masla hai jo humare shehr pe qabza karay bethay usko sar-e-aam loot rahay hain. Aur Karachi koi bina thaali ka baingan tou hai nahi ke kabhi Balochistan ko de diya kabhi Sindh ko. Hum 15 saal is mulk ka capital rahay hain, 70 saal se apkay subay Sindh ke rishwatkhor feudals ko paal rahay hain. I'm pretty sure hum federal territory reh ke apni hifazat kar sakte hain.

बात समझ अ जनाब? Please mujhe Delhiite in Karachi ya Panahgir Hindustani boliye na. Bohot arsa hogaya kisi Sindhi ne mujhe yeh nahi bola.

Marson marson Karachi na deson

Haha aapki soch hai addi adda jo bhi aap hain. Karachi tou hum Sindh ki jholi se cheen ke rahay gain. Sindhudesh ke sapne aakhir tor ke hi rahain ge.

 

[El Sidd]

PDF sa nikalta ha. Behtar ha issay Pakistan main ban kardiya jaye

immie fans with fangs hain yeh

Ghareeb Sindhi awaam se humein koi problem nahi. Humein bas aap aur aap jaise privileged feudalistic na -ahl Sindhiyon se masla hai jo humare shehr pe qabza karay bethay usko sar-e-aam loot rahay hain. Aur Karachi koi bina thaali ka baingan tou hai nahi ke kabhi Balochistan ko de diya kabhi Sindh ko. Hum 15 saal is mulk ka capital rahay hain, 70 saal se apkay subay Sindh ke rishwatkhor feudals ko paal rahay hain. I'm pretty sure hum federal territory reh ke apni hifazat kar sakte hain.

बात समझ अ जनाब? Please mujhe Delhiite in Karachi ya Panahgir Hindustani boliye na. Bohot arsa hogaya kisi Sindhi ne mujhe yeh nahi bola.

phir wahi baat. ahsaan jata lo ya insan ban jao.

abhi bhi ausatan Karachi me paida hua Pakistani zyada asaish me palta hai.

Sindhi seekh lo miyan usme ye likhat use karke unko parhayen online.

ye dedh inch ki masjid nahi ban sakti

 

[Baybars Han]

The cope within this thread is unbearable. The Turk always finds a way to put the region of the Indus valley under his control. Before he did it with blood and steel pillaging the region of its riches and establishing his realm within the heart of Punjab.

Now he does it by spreading his soft power throughout the region with a retarded fantasization of an Anatolian Turk. Soon, everyone will be wearing the Ertuğrul costumes whilst your rickshaw driver will say "Eyvallah" verbatim 24/7.

Meh, at least it's better than Pakistanis walking around wearing the Khaleeji headwear and thobe looking like ugly Wahhabis.

Oh shit, it's already happening

https://twitter.com/x/status/1054426712975568896

No problem, you can speak English and say Hello Sir and wear the British flag or American flag. That will make you more proud of your country.

 

[Pax Pakistanica]

Ok calm down lmao, Mahmud's mother was literally from Zabulistan which was firmly entrenched within the Indus valley's sphere of influence. Lahore was also his winter capital and he was culturally more Iranic than anything else. The Turks aren't even descended from the Ghaznavids, the Pashtuns are.

And besides, it's not like Anatolians can claim Central Asian Turkic history anyway.

I don't see how this takes away from what I said considering that Subuktigin was of Central Asian Turkic origins and that Mahmud's paternal side still remained relatively Turkic. Not to mention the future Tughluqs and the Gurkhanis who would come to rule the region were also of Turkic descent.

Anatolian Turks claim descent from the Oghuz Turks who once rode throughout Western Central Asia. Oghuz Turks and Karluk Turks have a single ancestral origin.

 

[Cliftonite]

immie fans with fangs hain yeh



phir wahi baat. ahsaan jata lo ya insan ban jao.

abhi bhi ausatan Karachi me paida hua Pakistani zyada asaish me palta hai.

Sindhi seekh lo miyan usme ye likhat use karke unko parhayen online.

ye dedh inch ki masjid nahi ban sakti

Sindhi seekhne mein mujhe koi harj nahi.

Aap ke liye dedh inch ki masjid. Humare liye Sindhi qabzay se azaadi. InshaAllah yeh banay gi. Pakistan bhar mein aur soobay banain ge. Isi mein Pakistan ki behtari hai.

 

[El Sidd]

Aap ko sindhi aati ha?

bachpan me seekhi thi phir istemal khatam hogaya to bhol gaye. steel mill jatay thay wahan Sindhi bolte thay. ab apke niazi bech khaye sab

Sindhi seekhne mein mujhe koi harj nahi.

Aap ke liye dedh inch ki masjid. Humare liye Sindhi qabzay se azaadi. InshaAllah yeh banay gi. Pakistan bhar mein aur soobay banain ge. Isi mein Pakistan ki behtari hai.

ji jab waqt ayega to karlenge. is waqt aap na haq ulajh or uljha rahe hain mamlaat

 

[Hamza913]

Not to mention the future Tughluqs and the Gurkhanis who would come to rule the region were also of Turkic descent.

Both of which also assimilated incredibly quickly and have descendants among the current Muslim population of the Indian sub-continent. The Tughlaqs themselves assimilated into the Bhatti clan relatively quickly, so much so that Firoz Shah sought their help rather than that of Turks whenever he had internal disputes. Some even question whether the Tughlaq claim of Turkic ancestry was just meant to give them an illustrious lineage.

Anatolian Turks claim descent from the Oghuz Turks who once rode throughout Western Central Asia.

They're overwhelmingly Mediterranean, whether they accept it or not.

 

[Cliftonite]

Steel mil sa bara pyar ha. Kisi air jagga jakar Sindhi bol laina

Inshallah kabhi nhi banain ga air na is main behtari ha.

Spoken like a true Sindhudeshi.

 

[Naofumi]

The Tughlaqs themselves assimilated into the Bhatti clan relatively quickly, so much so that Firoz Shah sought their help rather than that of Turks whenever he had internal disputes.

Source?

 

[Pax Pakistanica]

Source?

Post by Taimur Khurram

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/musl...punjabi-sindhi-ancestry.664288/#post-12293385