India may raise with Washington use of US-made ATGMs by Pak to target Indian troops

[BHarwana]

Indians go to Washington later first get back your base from freedom fighter. It has been 2 days and kashmiris have your military base.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indian-army-camp-under-attack-in-jammu.543555/page-3#post-10242122

 

[undercover JIX]

Trump won't be there forever.

they have the opportunity now to get maximum benefit while Trump is there, Pakistan needs to work around accordingly keeping all future and present threats in mind.

Indians are really failing to counter Pak Army and all their superiority in numbers and arms and ammunition is not helping them, so they have to find banya type tactics to slap their own face, show their bloody face and cry to daddy to get sympathy.

 

[帅的一匹]

We want absolute military superiority in the IOR. That would mean denying our neighbours foreign weapons as much as possible.

Pakistan is naturally right on top of the list.

We don't want a fair arena after all.

You are definitely over-estimating your influence.

 

[ARMalik]

I think there is a SOLUTION to this Indian "concern". Lets give them lots of bananas and also lots of trees to hang around on, and this I believe will alleviate any indian "concerns" on Pakistan using anti-tank weapons.

 

[Zarvan]

Hey Indians can you ever stop crying like kids and fight like a Man

 

[undercover JIX]

I think there is a SOLUTION to this Indian "concern". Lets give them lots of bananas and also lots of trees to hang around on, and this I believe will alleviate any indian "concerns" on Pakistan using anti-tank weapons.

Don't say it, they will take it serious. and demand in UNO.

 

[TheDarkKnight]

Oh really? Wasn't it the US who decided you don't need BVR weapons when the F-16 was sold to you? Or you didn't choose BVR from the goodness of your hearts?

Pakistan was provided 500 Aim120 BVR missiles in the last 18 F16 blk 50/52 deal.

Let's see when Pak will get real ToT for a 3rd gen ATGM from China then.

Mmmm. So far allegedly China has been accused of covertly helping Pakistans nuclear and missiles programs (which btw is in voilation of the NPT and MTCR) and is overtly helping Pakistan to manufacture fighter jets, frigates, submarines etc. But you Indians think they will shy away from providing TOT for a measly 5-10 km range ATGMs?

Your incoherent rants and illogical arguments seem to suggest you have suffered severe brain damage in your ultra-nationalistic patriotisim and facist hatred for Pakistan and its people, and I would advise you to get Psychological help as soon as possible.

Bes Regards and get well soon.

 

[randomradio]

You are definitely over-estimating your influence.

You are underestimating India's influence. You have to think mid term and long term and not what you can only see today. Of course, for that you need to have some kind of vision for the future, which you won't get if you hang around here.

For example, India's ability to explore and drill for oil and gas in Israeli shores without affecting relations with Arabs, which even the Europeans and Chinese have not dared because they fear it will upset their Arab friends.

 

[帅的一匹]

You are underestimating India's influence. You have to think mid term and long term and not what you can only see today. Of course, for that you need to have some kind of vision for the future, which you won't get if you hang around here.

For example, India's ability to explore and drill for oil and gas in Israeli shores without affecting relations with Arabs, which even the Europeans and Chinese have not dared because they fear it will upset their Arab friends.

recently Pakistan just bought T129 helicopter from Turkey and Sea King helicopters from UK, you can't isolate them. It's out of your reach.

 

[SipahSalar]

recently Pakistan just bought T129 helicopter and Sea King helicopters from UK, you can't isolate them. It's out of your reach.

Best part of it all is that the T129 uses a US-made Engine.

 

[randomradio]

Pakistan was provided 500 Aim120 BVR missiles in the last 18 F16 blk 50/52 deal.

PAF got BVR on the F-16s after over 2 decades. The point is a monopoly allows the vendor to dictate what you can and can't have. Defence imports has to be about buyer's market, not the seller's.

Mmmm. So far allegedly China has been accused of covertly helping Pakistans nuclear and missiles programs (which btw is in voilation of the NPT and MTCR) and is overtly helping Pakistan to manufacture fighter jets, frigates, submarines etc. But you Indians think they will shy away from providing TOT for a measly 5-10 km range ATGMs?

Your incoherent rants and illogical arguments seem to suggest you have suffered severe brain damage in your ultra-nationalistic patriotisim and facist hatred for Pakistan and its people, and I would advise you to get Psychological help as soon as possible.

Bes Regards and get well soon.

I do not hate Pakistan, but I don't have any love for Pakistan as well. I'm simply indifferent. Just like my govt, I believe in mutual co-existence, but you lot don't like that.

As for illogical arguments, I think you need to look at your countrymen, even the apparently "educated" ones, who think LCA is late because it will get its FOC 3 years after the JF-17 did and that India has wasted billions in building up a defence industry that is now actually delivering.

Anyway, China is "helping" Pakistan to the point where Pakistan gets an assured supplier but will never get an assured defence industry. Perfectly suits us. The slower you figure out how China works, the better for us.

 

[帅的一匹]

And Pakistan always can survive by using the divergence between different camps. Do you naively think All other western countries will isolate Pakistan just because USA doesn't like it being close with China?

 

[randomradio]

recently Pakistan just bought T129 helicopter from Turkey and Sea King helicopters from UK, you can't isolate them. It's out of your reach.

Dude, that's fine. All that's small stuff. Nobody is talking about isolating Pakistan here.

If you want a history lesson, read up on the relation between the US and Qatar with regards to the M-2000s they purchased from France.

 

[帅的一匹]

Without so called 'China threats', India is not worthy of penny in the eye of the West. So just being grateful.

 

[randomradio]

And Pakistan always can survive by using the divergence between different camps. Do you naively think All other western countries will isolate Pakistan just because USA doesn't like it being close with China?

The US won't lose Pakistan to China. They generally tend to get their way whenever it comes to Pakistan. If things go south for the US, they tend to issue out threats and Pakistan falls in line after that.

Without so called 'China threats', India is not worthy of penny in the eye of the West. So just being grateful.

Correct. If China didn't exist, then the West wouldn't be as bothered about India for at least another decade. And after the decade, the West would become more antagonist towards India as long as other interests did not converge.

Right now, they are looking at the 'potential of China' and the 'potential of India' and reacting to the two situations. If there was no 'potential of India', we would not be important to them.

The West is worried about the 'potential' of both countries. As it stands today, neither country are an economic or military threat to the West and won't be one for at least another 20-30 years.

For all you know, something may happen in the Middle East which will involve India, and the West may suddenly find India a greater threat than China and try befriending China then. China's relations have always flip-flopped in the past. So what makes you think it will be any different in the future?