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I dont know where Obama Administration is a proven failure, but in HK, US successfully make a big mess to China, and u Chinese dare not do anything to stop the protest but to come here and talk like idiot.:pop:

Obamacare is a failure.
Obama's war on terror is a failure.
Obama's economic policies are a failure.
Obama's Hispanic immigration policies are a failure.
Obama's healthy school lunches program is a failure.
Obama's plan to improve US education performances is a failure.
Obama's plan to control Libya, Iran, and Ukraine are bloody failures.
Obama's plan to control Hong Kong's useful idiots has been exposed and starting to fail.

Obama is a grand symbol of the failure of liberalism. You're a failure at trolling.
 
Vietnam's infant mortality rate is double that of China. So I don't know what he's gloating about. Vietnam is worse than China in every quantifiable measure, usually by an order of magnitude. When Vietnamese kids die of malnourishment, they do die in trash bins because the nation of Vietnam is one giant trash bin. :rofl:



In Hong Kong, protest and public gatherings are legal and are indicative of a vibrant political culture. Just like in Vietnam , burning down factories and murdering innocent workers is legal and indicative of a nation of apes.
The infant die for many reasons such as die of sickness, their parents dont want to have those babies etc. But no VN kids starve to death in dirty trash bin like in 'rich' China

Vn workers burning down factories coz they hate the foreigners boss and illegal worker, and it bring No risk of separation . But in HK, they got US money to make a mess to China govt., and that kind of protest could make China collapse like Soviet union

Obama's plan to control Hong Kong's useful idiots has been exposed and starting to fail.

Obama is a grand symbol of the failure of liberalism. You're a failure at trolling.
No, we dont see any sign of failure in HK yet :pop:
 
Simplified Hanzi looks ugly and crippled.

One day it supposed to be returned to traditional one, as education development already spread well and developed.

There's no reason by saying Chinese people unable to learn traditional Hanzi as it too hard to learn, the reality they can.

It's not Hanzi is the problem, but the lack of education development is the problem.

So it will be returned one day.

Crippled Hanzi is not a progress.

复杂的东西不一定美。相反,越复杂的东西越容易看起来做作,繁乱和虚伪。就如山水画一样,字的美在于用最简约的方法传达最多的信息。东方人的审美观强调的就是委婉的美,而不是过度华丽的繁杂。因此,简体字可以说是东方美的最高体现 - 简约,但不简单。相反,所谓的“繁体美”只不过是西方洗脑的一种体现。

再说,语言的魅力并不在于字体,而在于字的使用。即便繁体字真的如你所说的那么漂亮那又如何呢?使用繁体字的人连基本的语法都搞错,连自己的名字都改成英文名字,还有什么资格说自己有多“正宗”?
 
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The infant die for many reasons such as die of sickness, their parents dont want to have those babies etc. But no VN kids starve to death in dirty trash bin like in 'rich' China

Vn workers burning down factories coz they hate the foreigners boss and illegal worker, and it bring No risk of separation . But in HK, they got US money to make a mess to China govt., and that kind of protest could make China collapse like Soviet union


No, we dont see any sign of failure in HK yet :pop:

Plenty of Vietnamese kids die in trash bins. More than China. Only difference is that Vietnam can't afford trash bins so Vietnamese kids die in dirt holes after being mauled by wild dogs. And plenty of Vietnamese kids starve to death. That's why child malnourishment is so bad in Vietnam and why Vietnamese children are the shortest in *all* of Asia. They have so little food to eat and their growth is so stunted, we might as well start calling Vietnam "The Shire" after that town of Hobbits in Lord of the Rings. :rofl:

Vietnamese workers burn down factories because they're stupid. They can't tell the difference between Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, or Germans so they start burning down everything. Like black people in Ferguson, Missouri. The result is that Vietnam's already crappy living standards will get even worse as foreign investment dries up and the next generation of Vietnamese people will be even shorter and less intelligent than this generation. :coffee:
 
Plenty of Vietnamese kids die in trash bins. More than China. Only difference is that Vietnam can't afford trash bins so Vietnamese kids die in dirt holes after being mauled by wild dogs. And plenty of Vietnamese kids starve to death. That's why child malnourishment is so bad in Vietnam and why Vietnamese children are the shortest in *all* of Asia. They have so little food to eat and their growth is so stunted, we might as well start calling Vietnam "The Shire" after that town of Hobbits in Lord of the Rings. :rofl:

Vietnamese workers burn down factories because they're stupid. They can't tell the difference between Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, or Germans so they start burning down everything. Like black people in Ferguson, Missouri. The result is that Vietnam's already crappy living standards will get even worse as foreign investment dries up and the next generation of Vietnamese people will be even shorter and less intelligent than this generation. :coffee:
High malnourishment just bcz we dont have enough milk for children (rice, fish dont provide enough nultrition), not bcz we dont have enough safe food and warm shelter so the kids have to starve to death in dirty trash like in China.

I repeat : The protest in VN bring no harm to the territorial integrity of VN, when China will collapse like Soviet due to HK protest spreading every where :pop:
 
复杂的东西不一定美。相反,越复杂的东西越容易看起来做作,繁乱和虚伪。就如山水画一样,字的美在于用最简约的方法传达最多的信息。东方人的审美观强调就是委婉的美,而不是过度华丽的繁杂。因此,简体字可以说是东方美的最高体现 - 简约,但不简单。相反,所谓的“繁体美”只不过是西方洗脑的一种体现。

再说,语言的魅力并不在于字体,而在于字的使用。即便繁体字真的如你所说的那么漂亮那又如何呢?使用繁体字的人连基本的语法都搞错,连自己的名字都改成英文名字,还有什么资格说自己有多“正宗”?
我部分同意你的觀點,不過我們沒必要去管他們太多,畢竟台灣,香港,新加坡還有日本的相當大的一部分人已經進化成了’香蕉人‘。在黃種人面前趾高氣揚,在白人面前低聲下氣,畢竟黃皮白芯嘛。他們願得如此,便由他們去吧。
說到文字上,事實上是簡繁各有各的優點,但沒必要太較真。比如我們用簡體,記錄的速度跟得上慢些講話的教授,他們根本沒得體會。
至於文化上嘛,不是我們不正統,而是蔣中正搬空了我們的故宮跟國庫還有高知分子,再拿去跟別人炫耀。我有親眼在故宮看過,真心希望有朝一日能讓那些國寶重歸故地。
不要在乎他們怎麼說,我們就是中華正統!因為中華的正統,是人,不是物!
 
High malnourishment just bcz we dont have enough milk for children (rice, fish dont provide enough nultrition), not bcz we dont have enough safe food and warm shelter so the kids have to starve to death like in China.

I repeat : The protest in VN bring no harm to the territorial integrity of VN, when China will collapse like Soviet due to HK protest spreading every where :pop:

Your kids are starving, their growth is stunted, and they suffer from low IQs because of malnourishment. You admit it yourself. So not only do you not have enough safe food, you don't have enough of any food. Period. And you're trying to compare to China where the average IQ is much higher than Vietnam, where each generation is taller than the last, where infant mortality is half as much as Vietnam? :crazy:
 
Plenty of Vietnamese kids die in trash bins. More than China. Only difference is that Vietnam can't afford trash bins so Vietnamese kids die in dirt holes after being mauled by wild dogs. And plenty of Vietnamese kids starve to death. That's why child malnourishment is so bad in Vietnam and why Vietnamese children are the shortest in *all* of Asia. They have so little food to eat and their growth is so stunted, we might as well start calling Vietnam "The Shire" after that town of Hobbits in Lord of the Rings. :rofl:

Vietnamese workers burn down factories because they're stupid. They can't tell the difference between Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, or Germans so they start burning down everything. Like black people in Ferguson, Missouri. The result is that Vietnam's already crappy living standards will get even worse as foreign investment dries up and the next generation of Vietnamese people will be even shorter and less intelligent than this generation. :coffee:
Vietnam is so useless. Too many NiceGuy over there.

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Please SPARE ME and the other friends who can read Hanzi here from opening google translation everytime we need to read your posts guys.
 

I don't think they can help it. Child malnourishment affects brain development. Maybe a lot of the niceguys in Vietnam didn't get enough food as kids.

"Meanwhile, with 2.2 million children suffering from stunted growth, Vietnam is now among the top 20 countries with the highest rates of stunted growth because of malnutrition, Dr. Le Thi Hop, president of the Vietnam Nutrition Association, said."

Vietnam has 2.2mn malnourished children
 
I don't think it would serve Hong Kongers , in general, if they were to adopt a radical pro-independence rant. They are too far integrated into the PRC now since the British reverted control in 1997. No, I think that the Beijing Government should listen to some issues brought about by the protest movement , and compromise. It should also be emphasized upon that it is to the best interest for all Hong Kong and Hong Kongers to remain part of China. Either way, China has to listen to the demands of these groups, if it is to realize peaceful resolution.

Best of luck on that.

It's highly doubtful that the recent protests in Hong Kong are ones for so-called independence. HongKongers know better than anyone else that a clean break from the mainland in terms of business or political ties would bring about far more severe consequences for their economic wellbeing and possibly political status quo. This movement isn't about autonomy or self-governance either as there hasn't been any major protests like this one under Britain's rule and Hong Kong is the Chinese city with the greatest power to itself.

Instead, the quagmire on Hong Kong's political stage is likely a precipitate of the clash between two counteracting forces: the desire of Hong Kong citizens to be free of Beijing's influence and the decreasing role that Hong Kong has on China's political and economic realms. Hong Kong citizens have, perhaps understandably, a morbid fear of being affected by Beijing's political and socioeconomical clout. This is quite readily catalyzed by frequent cases of intrusion and unlawful activities conducted by mainlanders and the general discontent extended against Chinese mainlanders. However, both sides of the dispute know that Hong Kong is unlikely ever going to be completely autonomous or self-sufficient without a third party. Hence, protests are in a way the most effective method to get support from international observers without being brushed aside for being illegitimate. The fact that the protesters have been relatively "violent" in their work have attested to their increasing desperation. On the other hand, China sees Hong Kong as less of a burden and more of a side issue, and hence the rather muted response from Chinese officials. Mix the two together, and out comes an increasingly-violent protest that is expansive on the surface but ultimately feeble at the core. Of course, that doesn't preclude the fact that Beijing should do its best to at least hold talks with the organizers of the movement.
 
Your kids are starving, their growth is stunted, and they suffer from low IQs because of malnourishment. You admit it yourself. So not only do you not have enough safe food, you don't have enough of any food. Period. And you're trying to compare to China where the average IQ is much higher than Vietnam, where each generation is taller than the last, where infant mortality is half as much as Vietnam? :crazy:
They may lack of food bcz of many reasons such as suffering floor, land slide etc so our Gov.t cant provide enough rice, fish for them at that time, but still No VN kids starve to death in dirty Trash like in China (U can not find any link say that VN kids starve to death in trash bin).

China kids not only face wt starving, but also face wt the risk of economy collapse now, thats why handsome HK kid like Joshua Wong must stand up and protest now :laugh:
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I don't think they can help it. Child malnourishment affects brain development. Maybe a lot of the niceguys in Vietnam didn't get enough food as kids.

"Meanwhile, with 2.2 million children suffering from stunted growth, Vietnam is now among the top 20 countries with the highest rates of stunted growth because of malnutrition, Dr. Le Thi Hop, president of the Vietnam Nutrition Association, said."

Vietnam has 2.2mn malnourished children
But they r still alive, no kids starving to death in Trash bin in VN like in China:laugh:
 
@ChineseTiger1986

I think its not that simple. There are Chinese hard conservatives who are extremely anti-CPC and social liberals that are pro-CPC. For example, Okemos, Sahalian and Kolaps are all neocons that want regression back to pure Confucianism and think that the only way to do that is to get rid of the CPC.

These guys are KMT supporters who worship the Christianity.

However, Sahalian is the most Confucianist supporter, the rest two are just pure CPC haters.

Simplified Hanzi looks ugly and crippled.

One day it supposed to be returned to traditional one, as education development already spread well and developed.

There's no reason by saying Chinese people unable to learn traditional Hanzi as it too hard to learn, the reality they can.

It's not Hanzi is the problem, but the lack of education development is the problem.

So it will be returned one day.

Crippled Hanzi is not a progress.

The simplified Hanzi was created way before CPC, so don't hate it because PRC is now using it.

BTW, I hate to write the traditional Hanzi, it looks so outdated.
 
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No need to apply any harsh measures. Chinese Govt. is handling pretty well. Its just a game of nerves. People will eventually get tired of sitting there and sloganeering. A violent reaction on government part will close this thing sooner but will also result in bad PR. I dont think there is any need to resort to that for now.

Violent government action will give the protest a more legitimate cause and undoubtedly swing public and international opinion against China, which will impede the interests of those truly seeking to mediate a deal between the two governments; besides, such a bold and drastic move is quite unnecessary considering how small Hong Kong has become as a player in China's collective economics and politics.
 
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