Beard in Islam Sheikh Yusuf Estes

[Edevelop]

Just answer me Who ordered the collection of Quran in written form first?? and when did it was given first..

Ru blind??
Didn't i just say that Quran was written BEFORE Prophet muhammed died?? Alright even if he 'SAW' it or WORTE IT in collection, he was still alive at the time to judge what was right and what is wrong. The Quran is trusted because muhammed was there to observe it. Simple as that....

Hadiis is not part of the Quran. Its more about the prophet. In fact it was written AFTER HIS DEATH. What are the chances of its accuracy? There are religious scholars out there educated ones mind you that don't take hadees as its importance. Its not part of the religion.

 

[K-Xeroid]

MR stop lying I said Bears if part of men not women fasting is compulsory for both men and women and Mr I asked you a question that tell me the complete method Salah Or Fasting or Zakat or Hajj or Jihad only by looking at the Quran and I challenge you will not find it there because it is in Hadees not Quran Quran just gives orders but no detail how to do it

He can't answer anything and still He cursed Eastern educational system... Look how much Cb4 the Western Output know about Pakistan and Islamic Ideology.... I'm sure he also don't know the national anthem of Pakistan but look at him still claiming himself is a Pakistani..

 

[Zarvan]

Ru blind??
Didn't i just say that Quran was written BEFORE Prophet muhammed died?? Alright even if he 'SAW' it or WORTE IT in collection, he was still alive at the time to judge what was right and what is wrong. The Quran is trusted because muhammed was there to observe it. Simple as that....

Hadiis is not part of the Quran. Its more about the prophet. In fact it was written AFTER HIS DEATH. What are the chances of its accuracy? There are religious scholars out there educated ones mind you that don't take hadees as its importance. Its not part of the religion.

MR Hadees is part of Islam just like Quran and Hadees was written in the time of HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW and MR you can't follow orders of Quran without following Hadees because no method is mentioned in the Quran Sir and Hadees is part of Islam and following it is farz on every Muslim Sir

 

[Al Bhatti]

Muslims keeping beard is not a problem. But keeping those nasty dirty ones sometimes makes me feel like slapping them. Religious Pakistanis in general honestly are quite unclean. A muslim person should always look clean and neat.

Just compare these 2 pics and see which one you guys think looks better:

IMO, the 2 last pics show at least a clean and neat beard.

Add this person also; Muhammad Al Areefi

 

[Al Bhatti]

A muslim person should always look clean and neat.

Agree

 

[Zarvan]

and In the Quran ALLAH also asked us to follow HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW and his actions and also said that HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SW doesn't saying anything from himself he says what ALLAH ask him to say and tell so Hadees are also sayings which ALLAH told HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW to say

 

[K-Xeroid]

Ru blind??
Didn't i just say that Quran was written BEFORE Prophet muhammed died?? Alright even if he 'SAW' it or WORTE IT in collection, he was still alive at the time to judge what was right and what is wrong. The Quran is trusted because muhammed was there to observe it. Simple as that....

Hadiis is not part of the Quran. Its more about the prophet. In fact it was written AFTER HIS DEATH. What are the chances of its accuracy? There are religious scholars out there educated ones mind you that don't take hadees as its importance. Its not part of the religion.

Wow ! The Period of Abubakar Sadeeq (R.A) was started after Prophet S.A.W's Wasal (Died) and Abubaqar Sadeeq (R.A) The first Caliphate ordered first to collect the Quran in written form When Umer (R.A) adviced him.. before it Quran was in memorized form..

 

[Edevelop]

He can't answer anything and still He cursed Eastern educational system... Look how much Cb4 the Western Output know about Pakistan and Islamic Ideology.... I'm sure he also don't know the national anthem of Pakistan but look at him still claiming himself is a Pakistani..

You probably have no idea what Zarvan is saying. His english is quite poor to understand . Even when i answer him he keeps on dragging the same thing. You're just pissed by the fact that i said something that was the truth the other day. There is no Right or Wrong answer in this world. To prove my analysis of lets say about western vs eastern education wrong would make me happy. Unfortunatly you haven't done that. Try to prove me wrong and i will be happy. No one will like you until you prove something on your own.

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

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Hadiis is not part of the Quran. Its more about the prophet. In fact it was written AFTER HIS DEATH. What are the chances of its accuracy? There are religious scholars out there educated ones mind you that don't take hadees as its importance. Its not part of the religion.

Some ahadiith were compiled before, and some after. They were compiled by the same that wrote down the Book, so if you trust them in the before situation then you should trust them in the after situation.

cb4, you're showing the worst of the human being: arrogance. I'd rather rob, rape and murder than be arrogant, it's the basic "generator-function" sin.

 

[Zarvan]

If you are so smart then answer the correct one

You probably have no idea what Zarvan is saying. His english is quite poor to understand . Even when i answer him he keeps on dragging the same thing. You're just pissed by the fact that i said something that was the truth. There is no Right or Wrong answer in this world. To prove my analysis of lets say about western vs eastern education wrong would make me happy. Unfortunatly you haven't done that. No one will like you until you prove something on your own.

Sir he has clear idea of what I am saying you don't have any idea of Islam Quran or Hadees and that is the problem Sir Sir you can't follow most orders of Quran because method to follow them is not in the Quran it is in Hadees and that is why ALLAH in quran says follow HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

...You're just pissed by the fact that i said something that was the truth. ...

Voilà an example. You said something you trust and believe is the truth, you didn't say something that is the truth.

 

[Edevelop]

Some ahadiith were compiled before, and some after. They were compiled by the same that wrote down the Book, so if you trust them in the before situation then you should trust them in the after situation.

cb4, you're showing the worst of the human being: arrogance. I'd rather rob, rape and murder than be arrogant, it's the basic "generator-function" sin.

Well as i said, there is no Right or Wrong answer in this world. To prove me wrong with proof will make me happy. Prove me something about hadith and Quran that is correct? What i do know and believe is that hadith is not part of religion. Anyone can write something about my personal life whether i was a saint or not. personal life shouldn't interfere with religion. A person should look for the right answers own its own from Quran's help. I have tried doing that for the past many years

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Voilà an example. You said something you trust and believe is the truth, you didn't say something that is the truth.

je ne se pas un Francais.

But how do you know what others are saying is the truth? Take Zravan's beard topic. Do you actually believe it is compulsory for muslims??

 

[Edevelop]

Wow ! The Period of Abubakar Sadeeq (R.A) was started after Prophet S.A.W's Wasal (Died) and Abubaqar Sadeeq (R.A) The first Caliphate ordered first to collect the Quran in written form When Umer (R.A) adviced him.. before it Quran was in memorized form..

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yes or no memorize or not memorized, Quran was during prophets time.
Thanks for reminding me about other caliphates. The caliphates were close to the prophet and it made sense.
In the end Quran is trusted because the caliphates were close to the prophet till the time it had been written.


I still say Haddis is something not part of religion as it was written 200 years after by random people. There is no clear indication how accurate it is. No one should interfere personal life with religion. i.e what muhammed did or didn't do

Now when Zarvan talks about beard being compulsory then i find him no different between sikhs. They too are required to grow beard.. LOL..

 

[Zarvan]

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yes or no memorize or not memorized, Quran was during prophets time.
Thanks for reminding me about other caliphates. The caliphates were close to the prophet and it made sense.
In the end Quran is trusted because the caliphates were close to the prophet till the time it had been written.


I still say Haddis is something not part of religion as it was written 200 years after by random people. There is no clear indication how accurate it is. No one should interfere personal life with religion. i.e what muhammed did or didn't do

Now when Zarvan talks about beard being compulsory then i find him no different between sikhs. They too are required to grow beard.. LOL..

Mr Hadees is part of Islam I don't know what religion you follow to follow orders of Quran you have to follow Hadees because details and method of orders of Quran are in Hadees so and beard is sunnah of our PROPHET SAW and also he ordered Muslims to do it and stop doing Kufr and your last statement you have indirectly insulted HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW

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Well as i said, there is no Right or Wrong answer in this world. To prove me wrong with proof will make me happy. Prove me something about hadith and Quran that is correct? What i do know and believe is that hadith is not part of religion. Anyone can write something about my personal life whether i was a saint or not. personal life shouldn't interfere with religion. A person should look for the right answers own its own from Quran's help. I have tried doing that for the past many years

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je ne se pas un Francais.

But how do you know what others are saying is the truth? Take Zravan's beard topic. Do you actually believe it is compulsory for muslims??

Mr in Islam every aspect of life is covered by Islam including so called personal life these kind of statements show you lack of knowledge about Islam

 

[Zarvan]

"Uloom al Hadith: Preservation of the Sunnah" - Navaid Aziz - YouTube
"Uloom al Hadith: Defining basic hadith terminology" - Navaid Aziz - YouTube

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"Uloom al Hadith: Examining some proofs of those who reject the Sunnah" - Navaid Aziz - YouTube
Status of Sunnah in Islam - Salem Al-Amry - YouTube
cb4 Sir listen to above videos