A NEW AIRCRAFT FOR PAF

[mingle]

you alway wrong Mr you always spreading false rumors on PDF Su-35 not possible because of indan factor ,maybe its either EF2000 or J-10c or J-10d

No J10 as per Haris due to Engine issue its out from game .

 

[The Sandman]

China bought 24 SU-35 fighters for $2 Billion

and if we purchase the same amount of Su35's after adding all the cost for the new infrastructure for it how much it will cost us?

 

[graphican]

On news, General Raheel is flying to Germany next week. Dr Shaid had mentioned that but he stopped without giving reason why.

 

[Benign Persona]

Our Procurement Budget for 2016-17 is $5 Billion We can add 40 Planes in 5 Years we can spare the money Easily... And our defence budget is Increasing so No Prob of Money

Non Chinese Non American then PAF is going for this For sure

very true if we buy EF they will not come before 2020-21 so it wont be a big deal to pay 6-7 billions in 4-5 years.

 

[mingle]

and if we purchase the same amount of Su35's after adding all the cost for the new infrastructure for it how much it will cost us?

i think cost and infrastructure would be same for EF2000 and Su 35 FOR PAK.My idea is its Ef 2000 due to same plane ordered by Kuwait ,oman recently forget about KSA kind of common platform among .

Our Procurement Budget for 2016-17 is $5 Billion We can add 40 Planes in 5 Years we can spare the money Easily... And our defence budget is Increasing so No Prob of Money

Non Chinese Non American then PAF is going for this For sure

Cant wait to see these jets in Pak Colors while Modi Dhoti getting wet getting Slap from everwhere

 

[mingle]

if Pakistanis is eyeing EF then one thing is for sure someone is paying behalf of us and may be he want something in return like sending our troops may be i am wrong but its my personal opinion which i am sharing. nothing comes free

Military leadership not happy with Iran recent events like spy ring and charbahr issue with increasing indian presence and nexsus with our westren neighbour .its one reason making us cozy with GCC .

 

[Zarvan]

you alway wrong Mr you always spreading false rumors on PDF Su-35 not possible because of indan factor ,maybe its either EF2000 or J-10c or J-10d

It's SU-35 and Russia won't get blackmailed by Indians

 

[pkd]

Read it with the following to get a clearer picture.

Pakistan will buy F16,fighter jets from Jordan,Russia,France

Comes down to Su35 and used teens

 

[dadeechi]

$50BN in defence sales over the next 10 years could be $75BN in the following 10 years or $10BN depending on the Indo-Russian relations going foreward, there is a lot at stake for both sides and frankly most nations will not put their relations with an emerging global giant for........Pakistan. Geopolitical realities will see to that.

Leaving all of this talk about abstract concepts such as geopolitics and "influence" to one side, the most rudimentary question is that of cost. If the PAF is unable/unwilling to pay full price for some F-16 Blk.52s, will they be willing to pay full price for some SU-35s? The Russians aren't going to offer any discounts or exotic financing options.

If Pakistan is willing to pay or not is an entirely a different topic. All I am saying is Russia is willing to do business with Pakistan, Sold engines & Choppers, Building overhaul facilities and gas pipelines and negotiating to sell S-300s while planning to sell S-400s to India.

For Russia it is not an either or situation.

Russia would do business with China, India, Pakistan, Iran, Vietnam etc.

One can draw an analogy between Indo-Pak and China-Vietnam scenarios and Russia does business with all of them.

How is Russia selling to Vietnam when it has such large deals with China (which India apparently claims as the reason to diversify to the West)?

India having leverage over Russia is a myth.

 

[Zarvan]

On news, General Raheel is flying to Germany next week. Dr Shaid had mentioned that but he stopped without giving reason why.

Yes a friend also told about Germany but I am also thinking why. Could be just talks but could be for some deals

 

[New World]

On news, General Raheel is flying to Germany next week. Dr Shaid had mentioned that but he stopped without giving reason why.

might be for NSG membership..

 

[mingle]

Yes a friend also told about Germany but I am also thinking why. Could be just talks but could be for some deals

Zarvan its mention 40 planes could be Ef OR SU

Yes a friend also told about Germany but I am also thinking why. Could be just talks but could be for some deals

Zarvan sartaj aziz also mention france how about Rafale to both india and Pak ?

 

[dadeechi]

and if we purchase the same amount of Su35's after adding all the cost for the new infrastructure for it how much it will cost us?

It depends but I would assume Chinese deal would have included the spares and support.

su vs mig? which good? y?

Of course SU-35 is better but you could get almost 2 MIG-35s for 1 SU-35.

 

[Ultima Thule]

It's SU-35 and Russia won't get blackmailed by Indians

why are you so sure, are you in PAF?

 

[Viper0011.]

Here is an interesting video..

Some of the stuff is strange. On a couple of Russian jets, he says they can "take down the Euro fighter before it can see the Russian jet". Which means the Russian jet in question is more advanced (he said this for SU-35, PAk-FA and on one more design). But then he gets to the EFT and says its the only fighter which has a chance to fight the F-22 (which means it is the most advanced one behind the F-22 in electronic warfare, but then, he had already put the EFT down in front of multiple Russian platforms). So it doesn't make sense as the speaker wasn't clear.

In terms of reality, the EFT, SU-35 and PAK-FA would be in the same class. Some slightly more stealthier than the other, but all of them behind Raptor's league.