A NEW AIRCRAFT FOR PAF

[Signalian]

technically it will be mistake

f-16s
thunders
and fifth gen

this was future plan for low cost less spare issue and deals .

5th gen compromises either stealth or payload/range. The avionics are excellent.

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

how much SU $$$ per peace?

 

[dadeechi]

I'll say it again, India and Russia will have at least $50BN USD worth of defence deals in the next 10 years and will remain their largest defence customer, there is no way to ignore India has signifcant leverage over Russia, especially where Pakistan is concerned.

I know what you are saying but let me give an example

What happens if Russia sells SU-35s to Pakistan? Would India pull out of FGFA or Brahmos JVs? No because that is the best that India has on offer today from any supplier in the world. Wherever India had options it selected others - be it RAFALEs, Apaches, Chinooks, C130s, Scorpenes etc.

 

[dadeechi]

how much SU $$$ per peace?

$85 million a piece

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

85 or 50?

 

[Maj.Osmani]

ooooh what is that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laddu

 

[Benign Persona]

the EF Typhoon aircraft's counter air performance is cited as its major strength, and it is frequently cited to be “82% as effective as an F-22.

many experts claim in pure air superiority role the Typhoon is second only to F22 raptor even today.

how much SU $$$ per peace?

su 35: 40 to 65 million
MIG 35: 30 to 40 million
EF: more thn 100 million

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

su vs mig? which good? y?

 

[Abingdonboy]

Because india is literally dependent on Russia .. From T-90 parts to ammo and that formula goes for each and every Russian system used by india.. Apart from that geopolitics shifts are crazy things... From Brahmos down to your nuclear subs .. It's indja that's dependent on Russia not the other way around.

Just saying.


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@Topic ; Could very well be the J series flankers.

I know what you are saying but let me give an example

What happens if Russia sells SU-35s to Pakistan? Would India pull out of FGFA or Brahmos JVs? No because that is the best that India has on offer today from any supplier in the world. Wherever India had options it selected others - be it RAFALEs, Apaches, Chinooks, C130s, Scorpenes etc.

$50BN in defence sales over the next 10 years could be $75BN in the following 10 years or $10BN depending on the Indo-Russian relations going foreward, there is a lot at stake for both sides and frankly most nations will not put their relations with an emerging global giant for........Pakistan. Geopolitical realities will see to that.

Leaving all of this talk about abstract concepts such as geopolitics and "influence" to one side, the most rudimentary question is that of cost. If the PAF is unable/unwilling to pay full price for some F-16 Blk.52s, will they be willing to pay full price for some SU-35s? The Russians aren't going to offer any discounts or exotic financing options.

 

[mingle]

Dam where are those people who were making fun of me all the time ???? Yes we are buying and most probably they are SU-35.

@Arsalan @waz

zarvan it would be EF from Italy

 

[Ultima Thule]

Dam where are those people who were making fun of me all the time ???? Yes we are buying and most probably they are SU-35.

you alway wrong Mr you always spreading false rumors on PDF Su-35 not possible because of indan factor ,maybe its either EF2000 or J-10c or J-10d

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Our Procurement Budget for 2016-17 is $5 Billion We can add 40 Planes in 5 Years we can spare the money Easily... And our defence budget is Increasing so No Prob of Money

Non Chinese Non American then PAF is going for this For sure

 

[mingle]

Not to mention the many meetings between Italy and Pakistan recently

i think in future we have turkey and Italy as major countries for arms deal from West

 

[karakoram]

if Pakistanis is eyeing EF then one thing is for sure someone is paying behalf of us and may be he want something in return like sending our troops may be i am wrong but its my personal opinion which i am sharing. nothing comes free

 

[dadeechi]

85 or 50?

China bought 24 SU-35 fighters for $2 Billion