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I been thinking this for some time,what if the Turks did not convert to Islam when they were gaining strength in Central Asia,later on to Anatolia but stayed as Tengrists or became Orthodox Christian's who would take over Constantinople,would you guys still be hated by Europeans,Greeks and other Balkan folks ?????
This is the craziest thing i have ever heard
Only Greeks do that, and i never take it as an insult.
Religious hatred of Turks basically stems from Muslims vs Christians.
Today we face a new change they loose their fear more and more of Turks and Muslims
White people fear the Turk
I think they would. You only have to look at how the Roma are treated.
White people fear the Turk
I was expecting someone to bring the Turkic migration and their nature of pillaging multiple empires and small nations simultaneously during the times of Huns and the likes that happened thousand years before the advent of Islam but I’m suprised there’s not one post about it because I think the hatred also stems from it.Religious hatred of Turks basically stems from Muslims vs Christians.
I was expecting someone to bring the Turkic migration and their nature of pillaging multiple empires and small nations simultaneously during the times of Huns and the likes that happened thousand years before the advent of Islam but I’m suprised there’s not one post about it because I think the hatred also stems from it.
One thing I’ve learned from non-Muslim forums is that they will hate other Muslim ethnicities for no other reason than being Muslim but will write a long essay why they dislike Turkish people so clearly not just for being Muslim.
In short, Europe, West Asia and the Steppe have a history with the Turkic nation for thousands of years to the point where they’ve built ancient fortress and barriers that are all directly pointed at one direction and for one purpose.
lolThat is not true. While we were secular, the west was acting more positive toward us. Remember, Turkey was the only non-christian member of NATO. They also accepted Turkey to the Customs Union and grant other rights with 1961 Ankara Agreement. They also requested for millions of Turkish guest-workers. Besides Turkey, they only accepted guest-workers from other European countries such as Italy and Spain. Since the biggest European nations are much more secular now, if we had continued to be a strictly secular country, I believe they would be much more embracing toward us.
That is also not true. These are only a handful of examples from history that we had allies in a war. Since the early times of Ottomans, Turks had no European ally while fighting more than one opponent in most of the cases. Most alliances between European countries were being established through marriages during that time. Since Ottomans did not have such a chance, they were the most lonely country in Europe for centuries. The situation was generally like this :
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ofcI been thinking this for some time,what if the Turks did not convert to Islam when they were gaining strength in Central Asia,later on to Anatolia but stayed as Tengrists or became Orthodox Christian's who would take over Constantinople,would you guys still be hated by Europeans,Greeks and other Balkan folks ?????
My guess is they would still be consider to have 'Arab DNA'.
I make mention of this because Italians are not liked by neo-nazis in Europe because we are supposed to be all the product of Arabs raping Italian women. And this is so far from the truth, even Sicily (ruled by the Arabs) has very, very, very low Arab ancestry (and I am not talking about Middle Eastern admixture for nearly everyone in the Central to Eastern Med has migratory Bronze and Iron Age ancestry from the Greeks and Roman Empire). The Greeks came from just north of Iran and that gets picked up as Middle Eastern.
The Europeans are from the proto-Turks (R1) and despise Anatolian Turks (who are mainly Greek Muslims) for being Turks.
The European far-right is comedy.
#Crusades
The muslims were a superpower and a superior people at that time(they were humble not stuck up like America for most part.)
The Europeans of the time were not considered civilised, they didn't know how to cook very well using spices and condiments etc. Reading and writing was also a big problem for Europeans. You can read about all this in a book called The House of Wisdom by Johnathan Lyons. The Europeans were at that time where the muslims are today. Lacking in education, technological progress, research and resources etc etc
Probably the reason behind low Muslim-Italian marriages.
I don't know what it is in having white skin that makes people feel superior. Maybe I don't have it that's why I don't understand.
They are catholics.
If Turks were still Tengrist today I dont think our war like ways would go.
Regardless of any religion the Turks followed the ways of war never died out but nowadays you have ignorant liberals and humanists trying to paint Tengrism as some sort of hippie religion of peace and stuff.
To all the people who believe this do you honestly think Atilla, Avars, Bulgars, Khazars, Gokturks, Genghis Khan, Sabutai and other badass Nomadic warriors were hippies???