Why Israel Created Hamas (new, detailed article by Swiss Policy Research)

[HGV]

Many years ago in an interview the former Israeli ambassador to Germany Avi Primor said "In the muslim world only the fighters matter, not the end results"....he didn't elaborate, but he said it with a very big smile on his face....
Well, and he is absolutely right. When someone fights, Muslims adore him, they don't care if that fighting supports their cause of actually harms it...no, he fights, that's all that matters!
And since a very long time Israelis very cleverly use that to their own advantage!

Muslims are just too dumb and emotional to see the big picture...

Arabs regimes certainly have shown a lack of strategic planning, unlike Iran and Hezbollah.

But in the Palestinians' defence, most of the Arab world has already abandoned them and they have virtually no power vis-a-vis their occupier (Zionist Israel). They are stuck between a rock and a hard place; whatever move they take, they lose.

What did Hamas get for backstabbing Iran and Syria to support terrorists in Syria? Did they win favour from the Arab regimes of the Persian Gulf? No, instead those regimes recognised "Israel" unilaterally and Iran is still the only country arming and funding them. Just terrible strategic thinking and decision making.

 

[PakistaniandProud]

It is like saying 'why India created Pakistan'? Maybe Indians wanted Pakistan to be a pain in their backside.

You are not that versed in Pakistani history if you think "India created Pakistan". If anything, Pakistan and Muslims of the subcontinent have more rights to Indus land than the Indians do. Why?

1.) The British took over the territory from the Mughal Islamic empire - which was a Persian speaking Turkic group with leadership who were mainly from Uzbekistan but merged with the locals. Although, the founder of the empire, Babur, was kicked out by the Uzbeks and formed an empire in the subcontinent. The Brits then LOWERED Muslim dominance and gave Hindus dominance again, something Hindus couldn't do on their own because Muslims outclassed them in most ways, IQ, Battle IQ, physical dominance (Iranic, Turkics, Punjabi/Sindhi Indic and Indic groups with Arab lineage gave them the edge over the majority Indic Hindus). This is similar to how the Brits gave Zionist Jews power over the Palestinian Muslims in modern Israel.

2.) Before that, the subcontinent was dominated with other Muslim empires, from Afghan dynasties, Turkic dynasties, etc.

3.) Pakistan sits on the Indus Valley Civilization, while only 5% of it extends to India (with some going to Afghanistan and Iran). Pakistan has more claim on the word "India" than India itself!

4.) Pakistan is like a compilation of previous Muslim empires who dominated the lands. Mostly Afghan (Persians, Pashtuns), Iranians empires, Turkic empires, etc. Pakistan is a mix of Iranic (Pashtuns, Baloch) and Indic (Punjabi, Sindhi). Our Indic groups (Punjabi and Sindhis) are stronger than all Indic groups in India other than the Sikh Punjabis (who are very strong and migrated to India from.. of course, Pakistan).

5.) If it wasn't for modern nation states, Pakistan would already have laid claim to India. India is still pretty impressive in many areas, for example the southern Indians are very smart at math, spelling and astrology. The northern Punjabis are very strong fighters (but they want a separate state now, called Khalistan), etc.

The Brits may have carved out land from the British Raj, but only after they seized it from Muslim control.

 

[Homajon]

But in the Palestinians' defence, most of the Arab world has already abandoned them and they have virtually no power vis-a-vis their occupier (Zionist Israel). They are stuck between a rock and a hard place; whatever move they take, they lose.

That's true. But that's their own fault. Had they acted differently in the past, then their present and future wouldn't look so grim.

But they have this stupid primitive Arab pride....
Iran taught Hezbollah to forget about their Arab pride and use their brain.
If Iran and Hezbollah take up arms, then only if it really serves their interests....
Although in the current case it's not even about Arab pride, since Hamas is controlled by Israel.

 

[Muhammed45]

You are not that versed in Pakistani history if you think "India created Pakistan". If anything, Pakistan and Muslims of the subcontinent have more rights to Indus land than the Indians do. Why?

1.) The British took over the territory from the Mughal Islamic empire - which was a Persian speaking Turkic group with leadership who were mainly from Uzbekistan but merged with the locals. Although, the founder of the empire, Babur, was kicked out by the Uzbeks and formed an empire in the subcontinent. The Brits then LOWERED Muslim dominance and gave Hindus dominance again, something Hindus couldn't do on their own because Muslims outclassed them in most ways, IQ, Battle IQ, physical dominance (Iranic, Turkics, Punjabi/Sindhi Indic and Indic groups with Arab lineage gave them the edge over the majority Indic Hindus). This is similar to how the Brits gave Zionist Jews power over the Palestinian Muslims in modern Israel.

2.) Before that, the subcontinent was dominated with other Muslim empires, from Afghan dynasties, Turkic dynasties, etc.

3.) Pakistan sits on the Indus Valley Civilization, while only 5% of it extends to India (with some going to Afghanistan and Iran). Pakistan has more claim on the word "India" than India itself!

4.) Pakistan is like a compilation of previous Muslim empires who dominated the lands. Mostly Afghan (Persians, Pashtuns), Iranians empires, Turkic empires, etc. Pakistan is a mix of Iranic (Pashtuns, Baloch) and Indic (Punjabi, Sindhi). Our Indic groups (Punjabi and Sindhis) are stronger than all Indic groups in India other than the Sikh Punjabis (who are very strong and migrated to India from.. of course, Pakistan).

5.) If it wasn't for modern nation states, Pakistan would already have laid claim to India. India is still pretty impressive in many areas, for example the southern Indians are very smart at math, spelling and astrology. The northern Punjabis are very strong fighters (but they want a separate state now, called Khalistan), etc.

The Brits may have carved out land from the British Raj, but only after they seized it from Muslim control.

Bro, that was a sarcastic sentence. You did not get the point.

Hamas has risen from Palestinian nation, Zionists are trying to steal that credit.

 

[Homajon]

Yemeni Houthis are currently attacking Israel, so one may think Palescumians are thankful for that....but no, definitely not!!!

One should never forget that when Houthis took the power in Yemen in 2015, Scumas denounced that and supported the Saudi side!!!

Hamas treads carefully with support for Yemen war

Hamas’ stance on the war in Yemen may redraw the map of its political alliances in the region, repositioning itself toward the so-called Sunni axis.

www.al-monitor.com

So first, on orders from their Israeli masters, Palescumian Scumas betrayed the hero Assad, the only Arab leader who was against Israel, and even fought alongside the disgusting Syrian opposition against the hero Assad!

And then, again on orders from their Israeli masters, disgusting Scumas was against the takeover of Yemen by Houthis, who from the very beginning were staunchly against Israel, even though Houthis took power in a totaly bloodless coup without any killings against an illegitimate interim president.

So Palescumian Scumas always opposes those who are truely against Israel!!!
And that is not very surprising given the fact that Scumas was created by Israel and continues to work for Israel till this very day, as is evidenced in the opening article of this thread!

So don't think that Scumas or any other Palescumians are thankful to the Houthis, no, they deeply hate the Houthis!!!

Scumas will always serve the interests of its creater!

So don't feel sorry for what is currently happening in Gaza, this was all long planned by the Israelis and their servant Scumas!!!

1:03min "Hamas has thanked the Yemeni forces"

Yeah, 8 years ago they didn't thank the Houthis at all and wanted them to be defeated, but now ....suddenly....they thank them!!! How disgusting....