Why PTI failed in KPK?

[Imad.Khan]

Another fault of PTI, check out the government hospital in Sargodha

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@save_ghenda

PTI doesn't deserve to rule, look what have they done to PM health card scheme

Everyone agrees all the issues in Pakistan for the last 30 years are because of Imran khan and PTI government

Quaid-e-Azam Solar plant scandal, another reason not to vote for PTI

Corruption scandal pf PTI

 

[SBD-3]

PTI was hoping initially that they would somehow get rid of Nawaz Sharif one way or the other as they launched on Islamabad one after another, waves of dharnas. But suddenly towards the end of the third year, they started infrastructure projects. Somehow most of their flagship projects were not maintainable.
Punjab's PTIB has rolled out some remarkable achievements in the meanwhile but sadly their initiatives remain alien to most of the people and neither are promoted by the Government (which is a shame really). I would rather say that PTI proved to be a blessing in disguise for N. Not the most wanted friend, but the most useful one. PTI 1)Pushed N towards fast paced development which PPP wouldn't have done. 2) Sensitized PML-N's vote bank by constant opposition and being establishment's aide.
Now even if Nawaz Sharif gets disqualified, PTI might have been little too late to stand a chance in 2018.

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[[Bregs]]

He never had a chance to win the general elections.

The most important thing about the entire scenario viz a viz creation of PTI and subsequent development aka politics and political activities, IS that it has dented the feudal parties like PPP and PML-N.

Both the parties are doing politics before and early years of creation of Pakistan and keeping this fact in mind PTI's performance viz a viz vote bank in few years is remarkable.

The most wonderful thing that had happened in last elections in Pakistan due to PTI is that for the first time in history of Pakistani politics women/young ladies came out to vote out of their own free will and with enthusiasm and not for Rs500 note or political pressure.

I myself witnessed the crowed when i went to vote.

The PTI presence has drawn a large number young generation which is the core of progress and development for any nation.

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well thats for the last few reasons you mentioned here i too feel and wish Imran Khan gets a chance to become PM and must be given at least one chance at central level of govt

 

[Javad]

but but there is only one middle finger on human hand



wah ji wah
jub hamarey hutey ki tareef kerey to bolo hmm usey kya pata kutoon ka
jub tumhary kutey ki tareef to yeh to bara kutta shanas hay

For you and the ganja party...

 

[xyxmt]

For you and the ganja party...

I suggest you smell those fingers now

 

[Javad]

I suggest you smell those fingers now

It was an explanation. . So don't feel so butthurt!

 

[xyxmt]

It was an explanation. . So don't feel so butthurt!

i dont feel butthurt i am used it, i suggest you get used to what you did

 

[ghazi52]

 

[Imad.Khan]

Another flop by the Punjab government of PTI

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PM Imran Khan has increased is expenses for the PM House as well. See we should stop voting for PTI

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[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Quite a fan boy anti PTI club , hahaha PTI has been a 100% sucesss and looking to expand into Sindh and Punjab areas. Baluchistan as well


PTI has been 100% successful and infact have over achived

1- Police reform
2- Hospital Reforms
3- Beautification of cities
4- Health service improvements (Health cards)
5- Hydral projects
6 - CPEC (induction with federal government's cooperation)
7- Raising awareness about corruption , provincially and nationally
8- Bringing technology to digitize land records
9- Planned completion of Metro Project
10- Establishment of Anti Terror , special task force
11 - Billion Tsunami Plantation project
12 - Funding Junior Schools , by donations (improving conditions by donors)

Again won't say PML provincial government has not had some sucess with some of their projects as well , however they have been dragged into Panama Leaks case and that was not PTI's fault as an international body exposed Nawaz Sharif unfortunately

PML/Nawaz Sharif's fall is 100% his own fault for shortcuts he took many years ago and his family lied on TV.

I like the energy projects his government did however the financial irregularities cases against him are strong, I appreciate his contribution and I will always do that.

However his problem is financial irregularity and strange Doosti with iNDIANs


PML-N failiures:
1- Nandi poor power plant project failed to get comissioned even after 3-4 years of overbudget and alleged completion (Massive failiure folks resign over stuff like this)
2- Qaid-e-azam solar power plant project , build over budget and now being proposed to be sold at 50% discount (Massive failiure folks resign over stuff like this)
3- In ability to reduce the inflation , currency has fallen
4- Promised energy crisis will be resolved however it has been 4 years and same issues persist.
5- Failiure to complete Iran-Pakistan gas line for 4 years
6- Unable to solve financial irregularities in Sindh (Karachi budget allocations) , causing disruptions in Karachi due to lack of finances to run city effectively. No accountability to tackle Sindh government's lack of issuance of funds.
7- Failiure to revive PIA/Steeles Mills , some partial success with Railways but a poor performance in Railways just satisfactory and ok result.
8 - No real achivement in Sports during the government
9 - Pakistan Premiere class launched and failed
10- No foreign minister / team to tackle RAW/ SPIES internationally
11- PANAMA leaks (MASSIVE FAILIURE BREACH OF TRUST), now it can be argued who leaked this and for what purpose. However !!! Now it is leaked and his family has been 100% exposed
12- The failiure of Police , seen as thugs and violent against demonstrators , massive failiure reduced the trust in Punjab Police as local security guards.
13 - Jackle and Hyde persona with Indian Doost coming to visit him routinely
14- Diplomatic failiure on F16 discounts , No follow up order defence article
15- Nothing done for cultural revival / TV and culture , promoting artist or older movie writers or directors
16- Some questionable bans on TV channels


Commendable Achivement I saw in PML (Nawaz Sharif):

• Allocation of provincial funds on time (10/10), now if Sindh messes it up for Karachi it is their problem
• CPEC investment drive (10/10)
• Introducton of managed city Metro project with Turkey (10/10) Appreciate it
  
• Sanitation improvemenst again with Turkey (10/10)
• Ordering of Locomotives on time for railways (10/10)
• Pakistan Premiere launched idea was good but failed (ok)
• Opened and allowed KPK representatitives to join CPEC forum (10/10)
• Islamic Aliance cooperation (10/10)
• NOC general raheel sharif (10/10)
• Planned completion of Rawalpindi Airport (10/10)
• Planned completion of Pakistan's first liver / kidney transplant center (10/10) (NOT YET COMPLETED) but nice try , I appreciate this effort I do !!! as a Pakistani I do
• Love the progress on CPEC (10/10) , obviously military is also involved 100%
• 50 Billion CPEC investment , 10/10 (But this was on going project from Musharaf's time not one person can take claim but it is continuation of discussion). But the investment came in his time and so some credit is due
• Improvement in Saudi-Pakistan ties some credit is due
• Funding for Major DAMs has been secured and work has started (10/10)
• Free Trade Agreement with Turkey (10/10)
• Trade enancements with China (10/10), functional CPEC (10/10) obviously China is DRIVING the show with Pakistan Military
  
• Qater LNG deal (10/10)
  
• Overall Pakistan's outlook in Islamic world improved due to positive moves 10/10
• Pakistan Stock exchange share sale to China 10/10

I do not hate Mr Sharif , he did some good but there was aweful lot of bad stuff that also happened .

 

[Kabira]

PML-N failiures:
1- Nandi poor power plant project failed to get comissioned even after 3-4 years of overbudget and alleged completion (Massive failiure)
2- Qaid-e-azam solar power plant project , build over budget and now being proposed to be sold at 50% discount (Massive failiure)
3- In ability to reduce the inflation , currency has fallen
4- Promised energy crisis will be resolved however it has been 4 years and same issues persist.
5- Failiure to complete Iran-Pakistan gas line for 4 years
6- Unable to solve financial irregularities in Sindh (Karachi budget allocations) , causing disruptions in Karachi due to lack of finances to run city effectively. No accountability to tackle Sindh government's lack of issuance of funds.
7- Failiure to revive PIA/Steeles Mills , some partial success with Railways but a poor performance in Railways just satisfactory and ok result.
8 - No real achivement in Sports during the government
9- Pakistan Premiere class launched and failed
10- No foreign minister / team to tackle RAW/ SPIES internationally
11- PANAMA leaks (MASSIVE FAILIURE BREACH OF TRUST)
12- The failiure of Police , seen as thugs and violent against demonstrators , massive failiure reduced the trust in Punjab Police as local security guards.

1. Agreed Nandipur fuckup is responsiblity of N.
2. Again Bahalwapur solar project isn't looking good because lot's things have changed since 5 years. Now govenment will hold bidding to grant solar power projects.
3.Inflation is all time low.
4. Ending of energy crisis promise is by December 2017 when 6000MW will be added. Let's wait, government have whole year.
5. Iran gas depend on sanctions, nothing to do with N.
6. After 18th amendment is job of provincial government to allocate budget to cities.
7. N tried best to sell of PIA/PSM but corrupt MQM/PPP qatal/wadera mafia don't want it. Only army intervention can help sell PIA and other loss making entities.
8. Pakistan just won series in west indies.
9. PIA have only one solution, to sell it off.
10. Sartaj Aziz does the same job.
11. PANAMA gave new life to PTI, good for them.
12. Punjab police is better then KP as per neutral international surveys. Local media is in pockets of PTI.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Its reallly a 50-55% execution figures for Nawaz Sharif , I welcome the positives and say alhamdulilah , better then Zardari who delivered close to 0% in his 5 years

But for PTI in KPK fully satisfied with what they attempted to do and how they executed the projects , it seems their "regional domestic" team is more capable. I liked their approach and strength of their domestic workforce who can execute successful projects with minimum capacity. With own resources. And that is the aspect that draws me to this group

With Nawaz sharif , he is more successful on economic policies and external international partners who execute projects on his behalf. His internal team is not as effective
The only domestic projects he does well are the ones where he hands out "money" or gifts.

The stuff Nawaz completed 100% with flying colors of course I will give credit to it but I will also acknowledge the short comings in his 5 year term.

 

[Imad.Khan]

8. Pakistan just won series in west indies.

Are you giving credit to PMLN for this?

12. Punjab police is better then KP as per neutral international surveys. Local media is in pockets of PTI.

Sorry mate, too late to play Aprils fools with us.

If you are serious then what international survey? please share it with the whole community.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well I was suggesting a broader sports policy and success

a) Acamdemies for football , Hockey, or Cricket , professional funding
b) Some financial support scheme to artist in Pakistan , and local cultural and heritage elements

Federally such financiing and project execution is done for National sport bodies
With aim like we want to win 10-15 Olympic medals by next olympic etc

I don't really see any defining imprint of Nawaz legacy on any sporting federation in Pakistan
during the 5 year period. Something we can say ok this was his policy

Ideally , focus being none PCB entities, PCB is a self running entity. t-20 League was more o a adhoc thing that just happened by PCB internal team

Talking about Hockey , Football, Squash , Tennis , Volley Ball, Athletics , Swimming etc

• What was his policy in TV/Movies /Drama / Arts ?

As a party in power one expects some policies on such areas

 

[Kabira]

Projects fail, nothing new. PTI/KP Rs2 billion container school scheme was failure and money was lost, likely in pockets of corrupt politicians. Now they have shut it down. In few years we will know more about all failed schemes by PTI and corruption.

Believe me just IK being non-corrupt doesn't guarantee anything on the ground. Even he have likes of Tareen and qabza group leader Alim on left and right side.

Another PTI failed project was mobile court, no one knows where the money went.