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why Peaceful muslims are irrelevant and world only view the radicals as representing Islam

Yet they won't view murder of innocent children as extreme. I just see double standards everywhere including in the Muslim world.

I wouldn't know this, but to what degree would you cite Gaza as a reason for Islamic radicalization as a whole?

Has Gaza played a major part in radicalization of a section of Pakistani society for e.g.?
 
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Because Western media portrays them so and some people don't realize that it is intended to drive a wedge into the national unity of other countries.
 
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300 million is BS. If it was 300 million, we'd all be crapping our pants right about now. I'd say 200,000-300,000 actually armed fighters, fund raisers and radical leaders. Another 2-3 million who blindly believe everything these people say (these are your run of the mill protesters who always seem less informed and always seem to be able to make time to protest every little thing).100 million who make excuses for them after the fact because of some false sense of kinship but don't actually support them and the other billion and half are just embarrassed of all the groups above.

Do you think I'm in the ballpark or way off?

I would put armed at around 100,000 worldwide and the rest 3 million supporters while maybe a few unwittingly supporters as well (a lot of time these groups collect funds in the name of charity without many people knowing what they are really going too).

چوں خلافت رشتہ از قرآن گسیخت
حریت را زہر اندر کام ریخت
خلافت نے جب قرآن سے اپنا رشتہ توڑ لیا اور حریت و آزادی کے جام میں زہر گھول دیا۔

@haman10 I think that is farsi, what is he saying?
 
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@haman10 I think that is farsi, what is he saying?
the first 2 sentence are probably farsi

when khelafa (ruling) was taken away from quran , freedom was gone . or sth like that :)

nothing bad though :D

actual flags.
not iranian for sure , although he didnt say anything bad in the quoted post
 
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The reason is very simple....and I think all of you know it....just pretending to be innocent....

There is a saying: "your silence implies your consent"......if you don't protest a crime, then you are equal partner to it.

I haven't seen yet, these so called 'peaceful' Muslims uttering a word against the atrocities committed against non-Muslims anywhere in the world......they only speak up when non-Muslims give them a 'taste of their own medicine' and to a lesser extent when they are targeted by their fellow Muslims.....

Therefore, remaining peaceful and silent won't help, you have to protest against the atrocities of those extremists to make people notice that you are actually against them.......otherwise you will be always clubbed together........

Hi,

These muslims are being rejected by the world---THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN REJECTED BY THEIR GOD---BEING SILENT IS THE BIGGEST CURSE-----.

Oh---they are not silent when they are burning hindus, christians and other minorities---
 
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This is always the case. Loud people will get attention, without funding/power they will be deemed idiots by the majority and people will move on.The problem starts when they those.

And the U.S and it's close buddies the Saudis have been quite willing to support or allows other orgs/countries to support these crackpots, be it either the Taliban/AQ, the JuD, the Jamatis, or more recently, as some people believe, isis. It would be quite interesting to hear her views on the concept of good terrorist/bad terrorist used by the U.S
 
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Becasue the leaders and governments of peaceful Muslims are overthrown by some folks
 
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Dr Lee please show your actual flags. Other then that what's your point? The poetry you quoted doesn't make sense.



Yet they won't view murder of innocent children as extreme. I just see double standards everywhere including in the Muslim world.

I am Sunni Muslim, Shanghai resident, fluent in Chinese , Urdu, English and understand Persian, arabic . My Nationality is Musalman, and will strive for it , as Rumi said , Your destination is your homeland.

"Freedom and Fight for Freedom is poisoned , as Leadership ignored true teachings of Quran, sense and definition of freedom is changed, cause of fight is not properly defined, Muslims scholars are writing without logic. Let's learn something from Jews , how properly they have defined their cause to whole world, even they are not right .

Sanai once said, if you can't be

بر خود آنرا کہ پادشاہی نیست
بر گیاہیش پادشاہ شمار

If someone can't be conqueror of oneself can conquer nothing,
 
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Because of the very simple reason. They do not protest to radical Islam with the strength and Intensity with which they should Oppose. They should oppose radical Islam in a tone which is audible.


Haha, you must find a local scholar to correct your thought and to open your heart.
 
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When we highlight the Radical Muslims and Minimize the Peaceful Muslims , we legitimize the actions of small group of Criminals.
Can you provide a summary or bullet points of the main arguments made by the panelists please?
the panel and the organizer are well known radical conservatives. they are also very intolerant about Islam and Muslims, so much so that the only Muslim they will accept is one who is not actually a Muslim
 
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I will like to add, it is important that every community encourage tolerance, non violence etc. i see a problem with Muslims that, most of them in some form support radical elements. They provide the atmosphere which helps these elements. It is the responsibility of any community to prevent radicalism. i do not see them doing it, they talk about minority rights, but they treat their minorities very badly. Cannot think of any Muslim countries where minorities are treated well. Saudi is worst where they cannot even practice their religion. At the core they are medieval in thinking.
 
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Muslims are considered radical, because we preach insaaf.
 
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