why Peaceful muslims are irrelevant and world only view the radicals as representing Islam

[KingMamba]

Things like forced conversion do happen in Pakistan. That's right it mostly happens in rural Sindh though. But what they won't tell you is that many poor Muslim girls are also abducted by rich Sindhi men and forcibly married. Those news will never make it in the media simply because Muslims have to be portrayed as the enemy. First it was the Blacks then the damn commies and now its Muslims.

I can accept that such things happen but once they try to put a number on it I have to call bs.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Yes, yes, you are fully responsible because you are an unspeakably evil Muslim!

By the way, such a thing never even happened in Myanmar.

If an Indian says it then it must be the absolute truth.

 

[DesiGuy]

What I see in Myanmar is Buddhist monks killing Muslims for not being the same race as them. You do not see the racial Burmese Muslims being targeted at all.

There are no true numbers for what is happening in Pakistan. The one case that got most media attention was because the family could not accept her conversion.

Want me to bring sources presenting buddhists view? why they are fed up of muslims? Regarding conversation, you are just unaware of it or simply denying it. Look at minority numbers in pakistan.

i would have had easy time accepting your point had it been the only conflict muslims having in the world.

 

[Zabaniyah]

You are right, they also make comments that Muslims do not speak out when people die in Syria or Iraq but there are countless threads on those killings with countless denouncements on this very forum long before the current conflict in Gaza erupted. These people have a selective memory.

Nah, they are narrow-minded bigots. Plain and simple.

When a society creates a future for them, it is from that point on that the said society sets itself on a path to decadence regardless of how "advanced" they are. That was the mistake that Muslims made during the 20th century.

 

[airuah]

The basic Idea behind this thread is this
The rest of the world is worried about Radical muslims than the radicals of other religions just because of the sheer numbers and the destruction they bring about. The silent majoritu who arw still silent arw expectef to man up and rein in your - however you can . if you dont the others will do it by force when patience runs out and this will lead to a large scale loss of life in the silent majority too....so there will be no use of criticising others or playing the victim card

 

[DesiGuy]

And? How does that relate to me? You have the same problem, just because some Muslims thousands of miles did something then it means I'm too responsible for them. Why should Muslims like me apologise for people who I have never even met. This logic should also apply to all Christians to apologise for genocide of Native Indian, even Romanians, Bulgarians and Greek Christians should apologise too even though it was mostly settlers from UK who committed the crimes.

you asked me what is jihad love..i answered it for you. if something doesn't relate to you, then stop defending it.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Want me to bring sources presenting buddhists view? why they are fed up of muslims? Regarding conversation, you are just unaware of it or simply denying it. Look at minority numbers in pakistan.

i would have had easy time accepting your point had it been the only conflict muslims having in the world.

Did anyone specifically tell you not to post them? Are we threatening you? Are we going to kill you? Did anyone post death threats against you on PDF?

And no, we are not denying the "conversation" we are having with you. We are engaging with you right now

 

[DesiGuy]

Did anyone specifically tell you not to post them? Are we threatening you? Are we going to kill you? Did anyone post death threats against you on PDF?

And no, we are not denying the "conversation" we are having with you. We are engaging with you right now

it was a rhetorical question for him...calm your titties...(is it the first time you seen a typo on net)?

 

[Jaanbaz]

you asked me what is jihad love..i answered it for you. if something doesn't relate to you, then stop defending it.

You're the one who is saying why don't Muslims condemn extremists. Damned if you do........

 

[illusion8]

I don't understand where the numbers of almost 300 hundred million came from. Did their masters in Israel tell them this?

She attributes it to intelligence agencies as sources, but frankly there aren't any such reports on the net to fall back on.

What one can do is judiciously look at radicalism in Muslim society by studying demography, poverty, mal nutrition, exposure to radical text or teachings, education or lack of it, weapons, drugs spread, jihadi literature on the internet and outside and it's possible reach to what percentage of audience in Muslim countries, sectarian and other social divides, what's trending in jihad etc etc. It might help in formulating counter strategies - methods and investments, also will give an idea of what causes it. For. e.g. there was a Pakistani article Three sources of extremism in Pakistan | Pakistan Today - which talks about three causes of extremism found in Pakistani society and what is it's reach and effect.

There will emerge a probable ball park figure - which might not be to the mark - but an estimate none the less, it is a necessity though.

25,000 Wahhabi preachers visited India in 2013 alone, and they preached to an estimated 2 million Muslims in India.

 

[Joeblow]

Yeah and why are the radical Muslims killing off other Muslims? It is because they oppose their filthy doctrine as illegitimate. What are the numbers? Do you buy your own articles number of 300 million? If there were that many why does ISIS and Al Qaeda not even have 10,000 total members? IS has 4000 fighters only, why don't they have over a million at the very least heck they would be happy with half a lakh.

300 million is BS. If it was 300 million, we'd all be crapping our pants right about now. I'd say 200,000-300,000 actually armed fighters, fund raisers and radical leaders. Another 2-3 million who blindly believe everything these people say (these are your run of the mill protesters who always seem less informed and always seem to be able to make time to protest every little thing).100 million who make excuses for them after the fact because of some false sense of kinship but don't actually support them and the other billion and half are just embarrassed of all the groups above.

Do you think I'm in the ballpark or way off?

 

[Jaanbaz]

She attributes it to intelligence agencies as sources, but frankly there aren't any such reports on the net to fall back on.

What one can do is judiciously look at radicalism in Muslim society by studying demography, poverty, mal nutrition, exposure to radical text or teachings, education or lack of it, weapons, drugs spread, jihadi literature on the internet and outside and it's possible reach to what percentage of audience in Muslim countries, sectarian and other social divides, what's trending in jihad etc etc. It might help in formulating counter strategies - methods and investments, also will give an idea of what causes it. For. e.g. there was a Pakistani article Three sources of extremism in Pakistan | Pakistan Today - which talks about three causes of extremism found in Pakistani society and what is it's reach and effect.

There will emerge a probable ball park figure - which might not be to the mark - but an estimate none the less, it is a necessity though.

And who will judge how extreme Muslims are? Does supporting Palestine make me a extremists and a terrorist?

 

[Dr Lee]

Can you Imagine 300 million suicide bombers lmao. These kind of numbers are pulled out of back sides of some western ''thinkers'' on Islam. Their sole purpose is to soften their public against any future invasion of more Muslim countries. What's surprising is some saffron wearing chaddi sitting thousands of miles from USA has jumped the bandwagon too.

چوں خلافت رشتہ از قرآن گسیخت
حریت را زہر اندر کام ریخت
خلافت نے جب قرآن سے اپنا رشتہ توڑ لیا اور حریت و آزادی کے جام میں زہر گھول دیا۔

 

[illusion8]

And who will judge how extreme Muslims are?

That's a good question, it would be complex and every country needs to look at it within their own perspective.

radicalization happens at various degrees and has it's own effects on different people. You cited Gaza - the Germans and the French may view the beating up and targeting of french Jews and German Jews by the Palestinian supporters as extremism in their own land.

 

[Jaanbaz]

چوں خلافت رشتہ از قرآن گسیخت
حریت را زہر اندر کام ریخت
خلافت نے جب قرآن سے اپنا رشتہ توڑ لیا اور حریت و آزادی کے جام میں زہر گھول دیا۔

Dr Lee please show your actual flags. Other then that what's your point? The poetry you quoted doesn't make sense.

That's a good question, it would be complex and every country needs to look at it within their own perspective.

radicalization happens at various degrees and has it's own effects on different people. You cited Gaza - the Germans and the French may view the beating up and targeting of french Jews and German Jews by the Palestinian supporters as extremism in their own land.

Yet they won't view murder of innocent children as extreme. I just see double standards everywhere including in the Muslim world.