Why can't China have national integration like India?

[sms]

I'm not a fan of Chinese ethnic policy, it's legacy of Lenin's invention.

I'd prefer that the gov do not officially categorize people into different ethnic group, and do not put ethnicity on ID card.

Unfortunately like many other policies, it can hardly be revised due to ideological reason.

That's the real concern! but its' not visible in eastern/ central provinces!

Yes. I think this policy can change.
At this time, most of the minor groups actually benefit from this policy, except Xinjiang and Tibet.
Myself is a minority call HUI, although myself look like exactly the same as Han people.

That's true to some extent. But there are few ethnic group has very distinct features and can be spotted / separated easily

How is India ever more integrated than China. This does not make sense. India is composed of various states stitch together by the British. And English is the one language that bind India together. How integrated can India be if the one language that bind it together its the language of its old colonial master.

Please refrain from posting something you are not sure!

 

[kaykay]

Troll thread

 

[Nan Yang]

lets have a friendly discussion

when other countries seek national integration through assimilation, everybody welcomes it
but when china seeks national integration through assimilation, it becomes an issue


why can't china have national integration through assimilation like in india?

1. in india, a northern caucasian is also as much indian as a dravidian from south or a mongolian tribal from northeast, they are all considered indians
similarly, in china, a han is as much chinese as a uyghur from xinjiang or a so called tibetan from tibet, why can't they all be considered chinese?

2. in india, hindi is the national language for a northern caucasian, a southern dravidian or a northeastern mongolian, they all have to learn hindi to get government jobs and interact with each other
in china, why chinese can't be the official language for a han, a uyghur and a so called tibetan?

3. in india, a northern caucasian man can marry a dravidian girl or a northeastern mongolian girl
in china, why can't a han boy marry a uyghur girl or a so called tibetan girl?

4. in india, if anyone claims to be non-indian for his different ethnicity, it is considered as a serious criminal offense and treason
in china, how come anyone claim to be non-chinese for his different ethnic background?

5. in india, assimilation is called national integration, western anglos praise it and say india is a melting pot
in china, why can't assimilation be considered national integration? why can't china be a melting pot?


so, these are my questions to the chinese government which needs to answer them


yes, i understand some people's certified hostility to china, i respect their hostility, we all have the right to be hostile to each other, i actually believe, without mutual hostility, life will become boring, too much peace will threaten our beloved war, and if there is no war, how come we will have a great defense forum like this?

so you become hostile to china, that is good, even, let me tell you the truth, i am also very hostile to china

but at least try to manufacture an acceptable logic for you hostility towards china. if you can't make one, let me know, i will make one for you, i am very good at psyop

First of all, you do not fool anybody by talking like India has a model for any county to follow. You only fool yourself. Lee Kuan Yew was correct to say Indian talk nonsense in his new book. Indian should stop dreaming and start to learn from China.
Its for India's own good.

Here is a comment from Lee Kuan Yew in his latest book.

四、關於印度。雖有年輕化的優勢，但長期李並不看好，主要是“尚空談，少實幹”?外，基礎建設落後，語言不統一及種姓制度也都一一制約了印度的能量。
Fourth, on India.
Although having a younger population advantage, but Lee is not optimistic about the long-term, mainly talking nonsense, not pragmatic. Outside, backward infrastructure, language is not uniform and the caste system in India are weighting down India’s energy.

Source: 67 Years of India - What's the biggest Achievement? | Page 9

 

[Water Car Engineer]

What is keeping India together isnt English, that's ludicrous. It's the simple fact Indians choose to move along together for 60+ years now. Being Korean and having one language cant save two Korea's issues. Being Chinese and having similar languages cant save Taiwan and PRC issues.

 

[dahuilang942]

Too much of rapid growth is called CANCER.

We already slow down .

 

[TejasMk3]

How is India ever more integrated than China. This does not make sense. India is composed of various states stitch together by the British. And English is the one language that bind India together. How integrated can India be if the one language that bind it together its the language of its old colonial master.

This lie will die for good once the statue of unity is built.

Here is the guy who united India.

 

[Sriram]

lets have a friendly discussion

when other countries seek national integration through assimilation, everybody welcomes it
but when china seeks national integration through assimilation, it becomes an issue


why can't china have national integration through assimilation like in india?

1. in india, a northern caucasian is also as much indian as a dravidian from south or a mongolian tribal from northeast, they are all considered indians
similarly, in china, a han is as much chinese as a uyghur from xinjiang or a so called tibetan from tibet, why can't they all be considered chinese?

2. in india, hindi is the national language for a northern caucasian, a southern dravidian or a northeastern mongolian, they all have to learn hindi to get government jobs and interact with each other
in china, why chinese can't be the official language for a han, a uyghur and a so called tibetan?

3. in india, a northern caucasian man can marry a dravidian girl or a northeastern mongolian girl
in china, why can't a han boy marry a uyghur girl or a so called tibetan girl?

4. in india, if anyone claims to be non-indian for his different ethnicity, it is considered as a serious criminal offense and treason
in china, how come anyone claim to be non-chinese for his different ethnic background?

5. in india, assimilation is called national integration, western anglos praise it and say india is a melting pot
in china, why can't assimilation be considered national integration? why can't china be a melting pot?


so, these are my questions to the chinese government which needs to answer them


yes, i understand some people's certified hostility to china, i respect their hostility, we all have the right to be hostile to each other, i actually believe, without mutual hostility, life will become boring, too much peace will threaten our beloved war, and if there is no war, how come we will have a great defense forum like this?

so you become hostile to china, that is good, even, let me tell you the truth, i am also very hostile to china

but at least try to manufacture an acceptable logic for you hostility towards china. if you can't make one, let me know, i will make one for you, i am very good at psyop

factual errors...

1. hindi aint no national language, nor is it required for jobs.
2. Indians aren't caucasians and dravidian is a language group not a racial group.

 

[dlclong]

Haha, this is under Western influence, foreigners understanding of China.

In fact, never been a country called ----"China",the so--called ”China“, we call it--- Zhongguo中国, we pipe the citizens of our country called the --Zhongguoren中国人.
”china“ the word is foreigner invention.
In our Zhongguo, whether they are Han , Uighur, Tibetan, Yi, Zhuang, Mongolian, are considered to be Zhongguoren, and basically everyone recognizes.
However, foreigners, just like you Indians, Europeans, who in order to divide us, and never call us "Zhongguo", but to give us take the name of "china", "chinese", but they sometimes only called the Han people is Chinese.
In Google, you can try and play the "汉人", he will display” Chinese“ ，never display "Han or Hans or Han people or Hanren",
our Han people truly name is Hanren / Hanzu 汉人/汉族

you put u country all the different ethnic citizens are called Americans, the indians，and only called Han people chinese.
,our citizens truly name Zhongguoren ,if u don.t call we Zhongguoren ,pLZ call all our citizens chinese

 

[utraash]

BS thread......

 

[AgentOrange]

Too much of rapid growth is called CANCER.

That's what losers say when they know they're falling farther and farther behind.

Ponzi game?

This "ponzi game" made 800 million people out of extreme poor.

You have idea solution for a country that solve all problems?

India is proud of not being party to any "ponzi scheme" of lifting people out of poverty by having more poor than all of Sub-Saharan Africa combined. I guess India sure showed the world.

 

[B+ Dracula]

No Trolling.......BS thread

 

[Luca1]

This lie will die for good once the statue of unity is built.

Here is the guy who united India.

Prior to the British unification of India. India represent a geographical location composed of various small kingdoms.

 

[Arya Desa]

lol @ the chinese who are proud they belong to an ethnic group 1 billion large.

 

[INDIC]

How is India ever more integrated than China. This does not make sense. India is composed of various states stitch together by the British. And English is the one language that bind India together. How integrated can India be if the one language that bind it together its the language of its old colonial master.

You joking?

Prior to the British unification of India. India represent a geographical location composed of various small kingdoms.

Prior to British conquest Mughal and Maratha Empires existed.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

lets have a friendly discussion

when other countries seek national integration through assimilation, everybody welcomes it
but when china seeks national integration through assimilation, it becomes an issue


why can't china have national integration through assimilation like in india?

1. in india, a northern caucasian is also as much indian as a dravidian from south or a mongolian tribal from northeast, they are all considered indians
similarly, in china, a han is as much chinese as a uyghur from xinjiang or a so called tibetan from tibet, why can't they all be considered chinese?

2. in india, hindi is the national language for a northern caucasian, a southern dravidian or a northeastern mongolian, they all have to learn hindi to get government jobs and interact with each other
in china, why chinese can't be the official language for a han, a uyghur and a so called tibetan?

3. in india, a northern caucasian man can marry a dravidian girl or a northeastern mongolian girl
in china, why can't a han boy marry a uyghur girl or a so called tibetan girl?

4. in india, if anyone claims to be non-indian for his different ethnicity, it is considered as a serious criminal offense and treason
in china, how come anyone claim to be non-chinese for his different ethnic background?

5. in india, assimilation is called national integration, western anglos praise it and say india is a melting pot
in china, why can't assimilation be considered national integration? why can't china be a melting pot?


so, these are my questions to the chinese government which needs to answer them


yes, i understand some people's certified hostility to china, i respect their hostility, we all have the right to be hostile to each other, i actually believe, without mutual hostility, life will become boring, too much peace will threaten our beloved war, and if there is no war, how come we will have a great defense forum like this?

so you become hostile to china, that is good, even, let me tell you the truth, i am also very hostile to china

but at least try to manufacture an acceptable logic for you hostility towards china. if you can't make one, let me know, i will make one for you, i am very good at psyop

The entire thread is a trollbait.
India's national language=Hindi, eh? Dravidian/North Caucasian/Mongoloid - racist crap....forced assimilation? Are you high or nuts? Or just plain German?