white nationalist protest in Virginia leaves 1 person dead

[Desert Fox]

taking down some of these confederate statues is silly
they are part of history whether you like it or not

Well that's the thing you see ISIS doing. They destroy all symbols of the past in order to erase a nation's identity. Liberals in Western countries are doing the same thing by destroying symbols of American history.

 

[Falcon29]

fat white supremacist salutes the statue of general Lee in Charlottesville, Virginia

Childish behavior by everyone. But it's a shame on all us American people that WN's are the ones leading(even if out of own ulterior motives) this 'lash' against the traditional establishment both on the right and the left which we have to deal with every term that dominate the media and politics of the nation. That's not all a bad thing, routine in development is a good thing. There are many services provided to the citizens of the US that others don't have. There is a quality of life is really upscale(for most people). But, people feel empty, we are no longer developing or sharing ideas with each other. We are kind of in this state of polishing what we already have that has been deemed as an efficient system/culture/etc.... No one is going to be taken seriously if they present their ideas or propose anything new.

Thus people want to break out of this routine but don't want to work towards presenting an alternative that caters to everyone. So each group just pushes their interests. The leftists and rightists do the usual kink. The WN's in their minds have battle against time so they are lashing out. The silent moderates are observing from far and not taking part. The people who think they are that 'spark' we need are progressives. They have their biases too, and don't really bring anything different.

 

[Desert Fox]

I'm glad that Donald Trump highlighted the Liberal media's hypocrisy in covering for the Leftist/Communist violence who were actually the ones initiating the violence in Charlottesville.

@Nilgiri @The Sandman @T-72M1

 

[Dai Toruko]

I dont understand why these Americans from the South support these statues or anything related to the Confederacy. I mean, they fought against the USA, they commited treason to America, we don't see statues for Edward Snowden, who commited treason, but why do they want statues of people that backstabbed their own country and killed thousands of americans? I don't understand, I thought Americans were patriots, but I don't see these people as american patriots when they are waving that battle flag.

 

[Desert Fox]

Spot on. Really since Rodney King, anytime there's a police interaction with any black individual, there's an instant reaction, especially nowadays with everyone and their sisters pointing a cellphone camera at anything that moves. We've only seen the beginning of this new, warring movement. I'm afraid it's going to get much worst and the blame will fall (like it already has) on Trump and his 'seemingly' empowering of white supremacy.

The media is even pushing the story of his father's arrest back in 1927 at a KKK rally/brawl with the cops and Italian-Americans in NYC. Supposedly the old man was 21 back then and when he was arrested, was wearing a white, pointy hoodie with the eyes cut out. If it's true, you know they'll be saying the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.



Baltimore took down 4 confederate statues in the middle of last night! I think it's getting out of control.

These clowns pulled down a statue on their own!

Yeah man I know people in Law Enforcement (NYPD) who tell me the craziest stories in their interaction with criminals in Black neighborhoods. Its gotten tougher for cops to do their jobs now. One of my good friends in the PD, a Palestinian, told me that even when a cop has good reason to believe a suspect is armed they still have to handle the situation with kiddy gloves because of the negative political fallout if they apply necessary force in that particular circumstance.

Check this out, this actually happened recently and the guy had his hand in his pocket.

 

[Falcon29]

Well that's the thing you see ISIS doing. They destroy all symbols of the past in order to erase a nation's identity. Liberals in Western countries are doing the same thing by destroying symbols of American history.

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That's illegal and they were arrested. Not sure where this idea of removing these statues came from. They should just be left alone, it doesn't achieve anything. That being said, both right and left are as horrible as each other. I see them as bickering siblings. What would serve the people is a moderate voice in the country. It's difficult for such a thing to arise as other political groups which ride the wave and steer it into a different direction. Also, having moral people run the country is detrimental to our interests. That's just the reality. We are not going to have a moral foreign policy ever, we are going to continue to compete and export democracy as our strategy makers have long decided that this world works that way and it's best to secure everything we can for ourselves.

So I don't know what the solution is, America will not change if the global peoples don't change. You can't have one moral nation and another seeing that as a weakness to bully it around. So I wonder what the political pundits and think tanks are foreseeing. I haven't noticed much talk about this yet.

But, what's true, is this nation has cultural issues. So many people feel disenfranchised and lack an identity. Most blame liberals for that, and suggest liberal lifestyle is forced upon us. When it really is artificial/materialistic culture that is the problem. Thus you have such people like the WN's and many others who believe culture has taken a wrong turn and the idea of a social status being based on success/wealth/proactivity/etc... is really hurting them emotionally. How do you fix that? Either the establishment proposes a solution or it takes it's natural course. And everyone can only hope that it doesn't take a chaotic one.

 

[ptldM3]

They're arguing for your rights, while holding up torches and weapons...really...torches? Come on, dude! Look at what your actions are saying to the rest of the world!

Do you even know what you're talking about? In a democracy any side has a right to march or demonstrate, no one has a right to use violence. The recent car ramming by a white supremacist should be condemned however, the victims came looking for a fight hence many showed up with improvised weapons, blocked roads and did not have a permit to March.

 

[KAL-EL]

The most stupid thing you can do to distract people from real problems is to start a fight with the past. For a while, it really will distract people. However, long-term consequences can be terrible.

I wholeheartedly agree! It might distract people in the short-term, but the long-term consequences could be absolutely terrible.

 

[Desert Fox]

Childish behavior by everyone. But it's a shame on all us American people that WN's are the ones leading(even if out of own ulterior motives) this 'lash' against the traditional establishment both on the right and the left which we have to deal with every term that dominate the media and politics of the nation. That's not all a bad thing, routine in development is a good thing. There are many services provided to the citizens of the US that others don't have. There is a quality of life is really upscale(for most people). But, people feel empty, we are no longer developing or sharing ideas with each other. We are kind of in this state of polishing what we already have that has been deemed as an efficient system/culture/etc.... No one is going to be taken seriously if they present their ideas or propose anything new.

Thus people want to break out of this routine but don't want to work towards presenting an alternative that caters to everyone. So each group just pushes their interests. The leftists and rightists do the usual kink. The WN's in their minds have battle against time so they are lashing out. The silent moderates are observing from far and not taking part. The people who think they are that 'spark' we need are progressives. They have their biases too, and don't really bring anything different.

The Liberals have had a monopoly over American culture, academia, media, and arts for the last 60 years or so. They got to enjoy the best years of American prosperity but they are also the ones who squandered that prosperity through their own selfish and momentary pleasures. Today their children and grandchildren are revolting against the degeneracy left behind as their legacy. Generation Z is said to be the most conservative and right leaning since the second world war.

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/e...americans-gen-z-may-be-most-conservative-wwii

The future is anti-Liberal.

 

[wiseone2]

The Liberals have had a monopoly over American culture, academia, media, and arts for the last 60 years or so. They got to enjoy the best years of American prosperity but they are also the ones who squandered that prosperity through their own selfish and momentary pleasures. Today their children and grandchildren are revolting against the degeneracy left behind as their legacy. Generation Z is said to be the most conservative and right leaning since the second world war.

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/e...americans-gen-z-may-be-most-conservative-wwii

The future is anti-Liberal.

the liberals have won the wars on sexual relationships and financial responsibility. whole generations have been messed up

More that that's the face of McDonalds

the ugly american

 

[Desert Fox]

That's illegal and they were arrested. Not sure where this idea of removing these statues came from. They should just be left alone, it doesn't achieve anything. That being said, both right and left are as horrible as each other. I see them as bickering siblings. What would serve the people is a moderate voice in the country. It's difficult for such a thing to arise as other political groups which ride the wave and steer it into a different direction. Also, having moral people run the country is detrimental to our interests. That's just the reality. We are not going to have a moral foreign policy ever, we are going to continue to compete and export democracy as our strategy makers have long decided that this world works that way and it's best to secure everything we can for ourselves.

So I don't know what the solution is, America will not change if the global peoples don't change. You can't have one moral nation and another seeing that as a weakness to bully it around. So I wonder what the political pundits and think tanks are foreseeing. I haven't noticed much talk about this yet.

But, what's true, is this nation has cultural issues. So many people feel disenfranchised and lack an identity. Most blame liberals for that, and suggest liberal lifestyle is forced upon us. When it really is artificial/materialistic culture that is the problem. Thus you have such people like the WN's and many others who believe culture has taken a wrong turn and the idea of a social status being based on success/wealth/proactivity/etc... is really hurting them emotionally. How do you fix that? Either the establishment proposes a solution or it takes it's natural course. And everyone can only hope that it doesn't take a chaotic one.

Certainly, and I would also like to add that there is in fact a very strong racial aspect to this whole divide as well because the main drive behind tearing down all of these Confederate statues is because they symbolize the White Anglo-Saxon past of America, the days of slavery and Jim Crow, etc and this I believe is understandable from an African Americans perspective when they view this with extreme hatred because all their lives they have been told that the White man is keeping them down, even though in reality most Confederates did not own slaves and even condemned slavery, like General Robert E. Lee (a great man) who's statue the whole fighting was over the past weekend. The statues and symbols of the Founding Fathers of America are also next because they too owned slaves and did not consider non-Whites equal to White men, and as much as this is bitter for some this is the reality, but which society at the time did not hold similar views regarding people other than its own?

But this new Alt-Right phenomena is also a cultural revolt against the establishment in all its forms. It is the new counter culture of young White males who see the history of their forefathers, their ancestors being erased just because they did things which all other nations, races, and people's did all throughout history (slavery and colonization is as old as humanity) but yet only White men must pay for the crimes of their ancestors. This double standard has caused a massive backlash.

 

[ultron]

I dont understand why these Americans from the South support these statues or anything related to the Confederacy. I mean, they fought against the USA, they commited treason to America, we don't see statues for Edward Snowden, who commited treason, but why do they want statues of people that backstabbed their own country and killed thousands of americans? I don't understand, I thought Americans were patriots, but I don't see these people as american patriots when they are waving that battle flag.

And America backstabbed Britain. What's your point? Guess who built the statue of liberty? Not by English speakers.

 

[Dai Toruko]

Guess who built the statue of liberty?

Sultan Abdulaziz (Ottoman Empire) gave the order to build the statue of liberty.

 

[Desert Fox]

The best video on the Charlottesville rally from the Nationalist perspective:

@Nilgiri @wiseone2 @Falcon29 @T-72M1

 

[ultron]

Racism is pure evil. I don't give a damn where it's coming from. And the US government adds fuel to the fire by asking these ridiculous race questions on census, making everything about race.