white nationalist protest in Virginia leaves 1 person dead

[wiseone2]

Some crazy stuff. Showing up with sticks and shields and basically weapons is just asking for trouble. I'm surprised the cops allowed the fighting between the protesters to go for so long before intervening. The way they were beating each other up was nuts.

Then the person in the Dodge Charger plowing into the crowd then backing up trying to get away was insane.

Whatever their white supremacy cause was, they had the right to protest just like people supporting Black Lives Matter came out to protest in large numbers, but to show up with weapons is stupid.

And despite what some think of what the statue of General Lee stood for, it was part of American history and he was a central figure to the Civil War. The confederate general and the person who signed the terms of surrender, so I don't really see an issue with keeping his statue up and the need to take it down isn't the right one, IMO.

taking down some of these confederate statues is silly
they are part of history whether you like it or not

 

[Zibago]

 

[Gomig-21]

Certainly there are genuine grievances in the black community regarding police brutality, no doubt about that. But going from addressing police brutality to demanding that every trace of America's history be torn down because it's a reminder of 'Whiteness' de-legitimizes their cause in the eyes of many people and just makes them look like race baiters.

Spot on. Really since Rodney King, anytime there's a police interaction with any black individual, there's an instant reaction, especially nowadays with everyone and their sisters pointing a cellphone camera at anything that moves. We've only seen the beginning of this new, warring movement. I'm afraid it's going to get much worst and the blame will fall (like it already has) on Trump and his 'seemingly' empowering of white supremacy.

The media is even pushing the story of his father's arrest back in 1927 at a KKK rally/brawl with the cops and Italian-Americans in NYC. Supposedly the old man was 21 back then and when he was arrested, was wearing a white, pointy hoodie with the eyes cut out. If it's true, you know they'll be saying the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

taking down some of these confederate statues is silly
they are part of history whether you like it or not

Baltimore took down 4 confederate statues in the middle of last night! I think it's getting out of control.

These clowns pulled down a statue on their own!

 

[T-72M1]

 

[ultron]

fat white supremacist salutes the statue of general Lee in Charlottesville, Virginia

 

[Dai Toruko]

fat white supremacist salutes the statue of general Lee in Charlottesville, Virginia

This is the Face of Nazi Germany!

 

[vostok]

The most stupid thing you can do to distract people from real problems is to start a fight with the past. For a while, it really will distract people. However, long-term consequences can be terrible.

 

[ptldM3]

Damn Trump, back again with the Fascism!

And can you name one facist thing he has said or done? Only morons fall for the liberal propaganda about Trump being racist.

As for your rant about Germans being racist, it just demonstrates that you are the bigot and incapable of basic reasoning and common sense. How many people have the Turks slaughtered? By your logic Turks are racist killers. What about Arabs inslaving both whites and blacks? How come the blame is only on whites? If you think Germans and Americans are racists you have never been to the Middle East of some Asian countries.

 

[Dai Toruko]

And can you name one facist thing he has said or done? Only morons fall for the liberal propaganda about Trump being racist.

As for your rant about Germans being racist, it just demonstrates that you are the bigot and incapable of basic reasoning common sense. How many people have the Turks slaughtered? By your logic Turks are racist killers.

You are the perfect example... of a Nazi... your comment just proved it!

 

[ptldM3]

You are the perfect example... of a Nazi... your comment just proved it!

You are a moron. I had family in consentration camps and many members of my family fought and killed Nazis and many didn't survive the war.

Typical liberal tactic, when you can't argue, call everyone a racist Nazi. Again where is the proof of Trump doing or saying something racist?

 

[Dai Toruko]

Again where is the proof of Trump doing or saying something racist?

Trump believes Nazis & KKK should just be left alone while they march through American streets armed & battle-ready? What a slap in the face to WW2 Vets.

 

[Śakra]

This is the Face of Nazi Germany!

More that that's the face of McDonalds

 

[ptldM3]

Trump believes Nazis & KKK should just be left alone while they march through American streets armed & battle-ready? What a slap in the face to WW2 Vets.

That is what democracy is about, people are free to believe whatever they like. You are advocating facists beliefs by trying to silence certain groups just because they don't think like you. The real Nazis are from the left.

 

[Falcon29]

You are a moron. I had family in consentration camps and many members of my family fought and killed Nazis and many didn't survive the war.

Typical liberal tactic, when you can't argue, call everyone a racist Nazi. Again where is the proof of Trump doing or saying something racist?

Who told you he is liberal? And who do you subscribe to? If you're not a white nationalist who wants to retain white identity/majority in nations like US or EU, you likely are right wing conservative? If so, you realize your camp calls everyone a Nazi/Terrorist who oppose them on foreign policy or domestic affairs. That camp(Right wing conservative) is not conservative nor constitutional. They are liberal/secular when it comes to lifestyle and civil rights, but are right wing on foreign policy.

They actually don't oppose immigration. They are mostly hand in hand with liberals on foreign policy. Difference is liberals are professional in presentation, while that right wing camp believes in 'Judeo-Christian' 'heritage', even though there is no such thing. And try to unite the right around pro-Israel interventionist policy in the ME and domestic affairs in the US. They are actually tolerant of immigration too. Because in the end they are establishment who want to shift narrative in this increasingly divided world against Muslims and retain their hold on the US.

The white nationalists are actually a bad thing for this right camp. This right wing camp wanted to upstart this 'alt-right' movement and have control over it. So initially, they gave them exposure and sponsored them, so it as a powerful tool that won't gain too much momentum and is good opposition to pressure ruling party to conform to certain agendas. Now the white nationalists are tearing it up, they see the 'Judeo-Christian' narrative as a farce, and believe Jews are culprits of immigration among other things. So they are trying to hijack the movement recently as they have polar opposite views on foreign/domestic policies and social/cultural values.

So it has become a tug of war between white nationalists/preservists or whatever you want to call them and the powerful right wing neocon movement in the country. And the strange part is certain Jewish right wing pundits are tolerant of an alt right that is pro-Israel/pro-establishment, so that makes them racist and bigoted on their part. But, now that the white nationalists are trying to fight uphill battle to reform the alt-right to their liking, this is upsetting the traditional conservative base in this country. So now we see articles and podcasts by many of this camp's pundits that now claim the alt-right has deformed into something it wasn't intended to be.

This is a very interesting era in the US as these white nationalists are very active online on social media and internet platforms and are convincing people at a faster rate. So now this right wing camp is going to try to form an alternative to the current alt-right form and the media war against white nationalists is ramping up.

Anyway, that is my analysis of what's going on. And to you personally, I'm annoyed that you pretend as if only the Left has objective bias when the right is just as disgusting with those biases. Whereas this upcoming 'Alt-right' is something different than both these elephants. So if you want to be part of it, then be part of it. If you're in the traditional camp you're in, you're not part of the developments in this country. Trump's election is proof to that. If you were, Hillary or Ted Cruz would've been elected.

The most stupid thing you can do to distract people from real problems is to start a fight with the past. For a while, it really will distract people. However, long-term consequences can be terrible.

Distract us from what?

 

[Dai Toruko]

That is what democracy is about, people are free to believe whatever they like. You are advocating facists beliefs by trying to silence certain groups just because they don't think like you. The real Nazis are from the left.

They're arguing for your rights, while holding up torches and weapons...really...torches? Come on, dude! Look at what your actions are saying to the rest of the world!