War game suggests Chinese invasion of Taiwan would fail at a huge cost to US, Chinese and Taiwanese militaries

[mike2000 is back]

taiwan is crawling with mainland spies.
the second a serious nuclear program is started(and nowhere near finished), the war begins.

Acgualky the US stop them from acquifing weapons few decades ago, not China. Else they will be a nuclear power today. So thank the US

 

[Beny Karachun]

Conventional warhead will be enough to destroy the runway of those bases.

Literally takes just hours to fix, also what makes you think Chinese missiles won't be intercepted

 

[PakFactor]

And 3000++ AShCM , with terminal speed at Mach 3 to Mach 4

And the entire Western Pacific wired with sonar buoys below and Chinese satellites above that know exactly where the ships are and heading and speed and able to direct the DFs and AShCMs to deliver presents and gifts of dim sum and siew mai and tea bags

And yeah, air and naval bases of Murica and their Japan doggies within the 2nd Island Chain all gone within the first 10 minutes

What bases will those F-22 F-35 be flying from?

As within 10 minutes prior to all out attack on Taiwan, the bases in Japan and Guam and Okinawa and Taiwan be figments of memories.


First Strike: China's Missile Threat to U.S. Bases in Asia

Missile Strikes on U.S. Bases in Asia: Is This China's Real Threat to America?

Those bases will all be hit and cratered by DFs with conventional warheads so planes cannot take off.
Go into above to see photos of strikes made by Chinese on model setups in the Western desert of China that represent hardened bunkers for planes and runways and dock settings with models of Burkes and Ticos and the bases HQs to see the pin point targetting of the DFs.

Followed up within half hour by hundreds of Chinese cruise missiles to finish off what the DFs left and to add on to that.

USA carriers dare not get pass the 3rd Island Chain and become a turkey shoot from DF 26s DF 21s

Discounting the 3000++ Chinese AShCMs which include supersonics and hypersonics, there are 300++ DF21s DF26s

USA got 300 carriers?

Chinese will not care about F-22s F-35s

You heard of Suntze and his ART OF WAR.

Another book that Chinese go by that you should educate yourself

Thirty-Six Stratagems - Wikipedia​

en.wikipedia.org

Chapter 4: Melee Stratagems (混戰計, Hùnzhàn jì)[edit]​

Remove the firewood from under the pot (釜底抽薪, Fǔ dǐ chōu xīn)[edit]​

Take out the leading argument or asset of someone; "steal someone's thunder". This is the essence of the indirect approach: instead of attacking enemy's fighting forces, direct attacks against their ability to wage war. Literally, take the fuel out of the fire.

And why all the bases in Japan Okinawa Guam and Taiwan be taken out first.

Your precious F-22s F 35s need fleet of tankers and JSTARS and AWACs
Your tankers and JSTARS AWACs will all be splashed.

How China's Clever New Missile Could Cripple American Air Power
China's Mach 6 Monster Air-to-Air Missile Could Make the U.S. Air Force Come in for a ‘Crash Landing’

This is what USA Airforce Secretary got to say in 2018. And Chinese missiles improved vastly since 2018.

Air Force secretary: China, Russia could shoot down new JSTARS on day one of a war

And as demonstrated so clearly in KSA the Aegis and Patriot systems defending Saudi a joke as the Aegis and Patriot cannot even detect a few sub Mach cruise missiles not to talk of taking them down. Even to now, no one sure where those came from and who flown them. Despite overlapping coverage of those Patriot and Aegis systems.
New sales pitch? US makes the world’s ‘finest’ anti-air systems, but sometimes they just don’t work, Pompeo explains
Saudi air defenses like Patriot & Aegis don’t match their advertised properties, unfit for real combat – Russian Army (MAP)

USA vaunted defense cannot even defend Saudi Arabia against a handful of slow poke sub mach drones and missiles



How then your touted defense systems all failed in Saudi Arabia?


And that against only puny sub sonic slow poke drones and missiles


Murica touted ability with their super duper missiles of Thaad and Patriot and Aegis to defend KSA that Murica so clearly and explicitly demonstrated to te entire world

The world see many overlapping safe covered zones of defenses.

Yet the launching and hits were made by several missiles.

To date, records could not even find the tracks where the missiles came from , and if the installations not hit, might not even have existed.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...es-destroy-houthi-drones-state-tv-2022-03-25/





So you think you be doing much much better against supersonics and hypersonics missiles by the hundreds and thousands?


Tell us again of the LAYERED DEFENSE SYSTEM that Saudi Arabia bought from USA

On March 25 or so.

Saudi Aramco storage facility targeted by Houthi attack, causing fire - Our Today​

Saudi Aramco storage facility targeted by Houthi attack, causing fire - Our Today​

RIYADH (Reuters) Yemen’s Houthis said they launched attacks on Saudi energy facilities on Friday (March 25) and the Saudi-led coalition said oil giant Aramco’s petroleum products distribution station in Jeddah...

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No wonder Saudi Arabia lost all respect for USA and not only refused to accept call from Sleepy Joe.

But created a parody of Sleepy Joe and his Kamala as a sign of the esteem Saudi got for USA now and the failure of USA defensive systems that cannot even stop slow poke attacks from slow poke drones and slow poke missiles.

@gambit
He has the Pakistani flag, but if my memory recalls it, doesn't @DF41 post the same way? Who's a Chinese member?
Whenever I see those big smilies, I immediately think it's either a Jap or Chinese.

 

[jhungary]

Literally takes just hours to fix, also what makes you think Chinese missiles won't be intercepted

shhhhh...... you need to let them live in their own delusion.

You should say "Yes Sir, DF-26 will permanent destroy those airfields. And it can NEVER, EVER be fixed."

 

[REhorror]

A couple ACG lost from the USA would result in more than 10,000 losses already (since each ACG houses more than 5000 troops), so the think tank already failed at primary school calculus in the OP.

 

[jhungary]

A couple ACG lost from the USA would result in more than 10,000 losses already (since each ACG houses more than 5000 troops), so the think tank already failed at primary school calculus in the OP.

Lost not equal to lost with all hand. I don't think there were ever aircraft carrier lost with all hand since the inception of Aircraft Carrier. Ship that big is hard to lost with all hand, usually casualty with Aircraft Carrier is between 600-1000 of her crew. Depending on size.

Plus I think the 3200 being referred to is casualty in ground campaign

 

[gambit]

@gambit
He has the Pakistani flag, but if my memory recalls it, doesn't @DF41 post the same way? Who's a Chinese member?
Whenever I see those big smilies, I immediately think it's either a Jap or Chinese.

Yeah, it is the same Chinese guy. The fact that his commenting style remains the same means he is not very creative.

 

[antonius123]

Literally takes just hours to fix, also what makes you think Chinese missiles won't be intercepted

I doubt it takes only several hours for material delivery + working process + drying process.; could be days the fastest.

Those fixing time will be valuable for PLAAF to secure her position. Besides the destruction target is not only the runaway of course.

Nobody said DF-21/26 can't be intercepted; but good luck for intercepting it... it is hypersonic and maneuverable

shhhhh...... you need to let them live in their own delusion.

You should say "Yes Sir, DF-26 will permanent destroy those airfields. And it can NEVER, EVER be fixed."

Sorry, but no intellectual value could be derived from your reply other than hilarious cheerleeding

 

[Abid123]

Nooooo...

According to our Indonesian forum member who consults for the PLA, only the USN will be involved in this war. Yer wrong, pal.

Yeah like the US is involved in Ukraine?

 

[SQ8]

Conventional warhead will be enough to destroy the runway of those bases.





Both of you could be the dumb ones.

runways aren’t destroyed with one strike and at worst have massive craters - and the US runway repair teams have mastered the art of repairing runways from the times of cold war. Then there are adjacent taxiways and so on. So while flight operations may be halted for 48 hours max they will resume. That will give China the advantage but it wont “destroy the runway forever “

 

[gambit]

Conventional warhead will be enough to destroy the runway of those bases.

No, would not.

Guess which is the most difficult to repair.

 

[jhungary]

I doubt it takes only several hours for material delivery + working process + drying process.; could be days the fastest.

Those fixing time will be valuable for PLAAF to secure her position. Besides the destruction target is not only the runaway of course.

Nobody said DF-21/26 can't be intercepted; but good luck for intercepting it... it is hypersonic and maneuverable




Sorry, but no intellectual value could be derived from your reply other than hilarious cheerleeding

 

[SQ8]

No, would not.

Guess which is the most difficult to repair.

https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/134809/airmen-ready-to-rapidly-repair-runways/


Apparently the DF-41 fanboys haven’t heard of them.
1 hour 47 minutes is their goal to take a cratered runway and have it back to operational status

I doubt it takes only several hours for material delivery + working process + drying process.; could be days the fastest.

Those fixing time will be valuable for PLAAF to secure her position. Besides the destruction target is not only the runaway of course.

Nobody said DF-21/26 can't be intercepted; but good luck for intercepting it... it is hypersonic and maneuverable




Sorry, but no intellectual value could be derived from your reply other than hilarious cheerleeding

Please read up on runway repair teams so you too can add intellectual value. Runway repair isn’t repairing your home’s driveway.
https://www.187fw.ang.af.mil/Portal...rview Narrative.pdf?ver=2020-04-10-145504-683

https://www.erdc.usace.army.mil/Med...6447/11-step-program-repairs-airfield-damage/

Within 2 hours they are conducting taxi tests on large craters. 6 hours is the standard timeframe when teams are not deployed to go from nil to deployed and repaired for flight ops.
During a conflict these teams would be on high alert.
So good luck believing in the DF-41 to “destroy runways”

 

[Beny Karachun]

I doubt it takes only several hours for material delivery + working process + drying process.; could be days the fastest.

Materials are literally in the airfield already, working process is literally just dumping it into the hole and liquid physics will do the rest with maybe some evening in need, whole process takes a few hours at most

 

[applesauce]

Acgualky the US stop them from acquifing weapons few decades ago, not China. Else they will be a nuclear power today. So thank the US

thank? why?
if it wasn't for us interference in the first place, there would be no taiwan problem today.

and today is not 1970-80. china could not mount an invasion of taiwan island with any chance of success back then. people often forget that the RoC military was far more powerful and technologically superior to the PLA as recently as the 90s and being an island it could be safeguarded against the one advantage the pla had at the time which was qty.