Vietnam Defence Forum

[World Citizen]

Since Vietnam now views China as the biggest potential threat, so it is normal to have China's subject involved in the topic.

But it is the Viet members here who started to derail the topic, and making fun about China's living standards.

So next time I will not reply to their off-topic comments.

Vietnam views China as back stabs, greedy friend , NOT biggest potential threat .

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

As I recalled you are the one that started to talk about GDP.

I stated that the military power is backed by the economic power, while you and NiceGuy started to derail the topic by making fun at China's living standards.

So next time stop derailing when you are running out of arguments.

Vietnam's economy is so puny, she cannot afford to make her own R&D, while stop foreign weapons are expensive.

With a such little budget, you will easily run out of money.

 

[Carlosa]

I stated that the military power is backed by the economic power, while you and NiceGuy started to derail the topic by making fun at China's living standards.

So next time stop derailing when you are running out of arguments.

Vietnam's economy is so puny, she cannot afford to make her own R&D, while stop foreign weapons are expensive.

With a such little budget, you will easily run out of money.

I didn't run out of arguments, I gave you plenty of arguments that you could not say much about. Too bad those posts got deleted by the moderator so everybody could see. You can try to fool people that don't know china, but not me, I know china very well.

Vietnam doubled the defense budget in the last 3 years and the economy is growing at a very healthy rate, so I don't think it will be a problem to fund the military.

 

[Viet]

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Russia can refit Kilos to launch Brahmos I think.

Or get Amur class

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Good stand off weapon



China doesnt have Brahmos to sell.

that is nice. I am pretty sure we will purchase more submarines. the imbalance of power at sea leaves us little choice but resorting to asymmetric warfare. Amur class seems to be suitable for our need.

I stated that the military power is backed by the economic power, while you and NiceGuy started to derail the topic by making fun at China's living standards.

So next time stop derailing when you are running out of arguments.

Vietnam's economy is so puny, she cannot afford to make her own R&D, while stop foreign weapons are expensive.

With a such little budget, you will easily run out of money.

that is not new what you say: we are small and short of money. so what is your suggestion? shall we surrender?

 

[Viet]

look at the ugly shape of your country, then everybody knows how capable you viets are in the history. Look at the territory China occupied, then you will konw what Chines could do

this thread is about the status of VN army as it is. if you look for modern gear you better go to other threads.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

that is not new what you say: we are small and short of money. so what is your suggestion? shall we surrender?

Better to take care of your own economy than buying those expensive toys.

 

[Viet]

Better to take care of your own economy than buying those expensive toys.

a wise advice of a wise man?
STOP intruding into our land, water, airspace and islands and RETURN to the negotiating table.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

a wise advice of a wise man?
STOP intruding into our land, water, airspace and islands and RETURN to the negotiating table.

It is too expensive for Vietnam, having few Kilo subs and Gepard light frigates still make your navy looks like peanut.

BTW, Xisha is our territorial sovereignty right now, and we are keen to maintain the status quo.

 

[Carlosa]

Better to take care of your own economy than buying those expensive toys.

Give that same message to china so that they can try to fix the big holes that threaten to reck the chinese economy such as the shadow banking (a multi trillion dollar hole), real state bubble, etc. Let see how long china can keep financing the military if one of those bubbles burst.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Give that same message to china so that they can try to fix the big holes that threaten to reck the chinese economy such as the shadow banking (a multi trillion dollar hole), real state bubble, etc. Let see how long china can keep financing the military if one of those bubbles burst.

I am not going to reply on this post. Otherwise, it is going to be off-topic again.

BTW, next time if you wanna discuss your newly purchased weapons, just stop comparing it with China's, it is utterly useless.

Vietnam is nowhere on the league to make the comparison with the mighty China.

 

[Viet]

It is too expensive for Vietnam, having few Kilo subs and Gepard light frigates still make your navy looks like peanut.

BTW, Xisha is our territorial sovereignty right now, and we are keen to maintain the status quo.

for a long period of time we concentrated on economic recovery. actually since about 5 years, when the tension in the SC Sea began to escalate, we are starting with the naval build-up, and on track to become the most powerful navy in SE Asia in 3 years.

well, you are right, we are still peanut if compared to navies of China, Japan, not to mention America.
we are keen on maintaining the status quo as well.

 

[sicsheep]

that is nice. I am pretty sure we will purchase more submarines. the imbalance of power at sea leaves us little choice but resorting to asymmetric warfare. Amur class seems to be suitable for our need.


that is not new what you say: we are small and short of money. so what is your suggestion? shall we surrender?

imbalance of power at sea? when was the last time you checked the balance of power on land? we don't even need our Navy for Vietnam.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

for a long period of time we concentrated on economic recovery. actually since about 5 years, when the tension in the SC Sea began to escalate, we are starting with the naval build-up, and on track to become the most powerful navy in SE Asia in 3 years.

well, you are right, we are still peanut if compared to navies of China, Japan, not to mention America.
we are keen on maintaining the status quo as well.

It is hard for Vietnam to become the strongest naval power in SEA, since many other nations are larger than you.

If we sell the Type 052 series destroyers and the AIP subs to Indonesia, then you can never become the strongest navy in SEA.

 

[Viet]

I am not going to reply on this post. Otherwise, it is going to be off-topic again.

BTW, next time if you wanna discuss your newly purchased weapons, just stop comparing it with China's, it is utterly useless.

Vietnam is nowhere on the league to make the comparison with the mighty China.

the problem is it is difficult to avoid china as topic when coming to weapons purchases, because the defence of vietnam is about defending our country against china. that is basically our motive since vietnam regained independence. we don´t want to compare with you, but want to get rid of you.

to tell you the truth. the vietnamese people don´t need anything from you, just peace. you can keep your money or whatever to yourself. today everyone of us even wants to avoid the word "china" in daily discussions.

 

[Carlosa]

It is hard for Vietnam to become the strongest naval power in SEA, since many other nations are larger than you.

If we sell the Type 052 series destroyers and the AIP subs to Indonesia, then you can never become the strongest navy in SEA.

china doesn't even have a AIP sub yet, but you want to sell them to Indonesia, time for you to get a grip on reality.