US intelligence chiefs warn of direct conflict between India, Pakistan: Report

[Hallian_Khan]

http://spiritual-pakistan-future.blogspot.com/2011/01/800-years-predictions-hazrat-naimat.html

http://spiritual-pakistan-future.blogspot.com/2011/04/english-translation-of-800-years.html

https://picturepush.com/public/5915493

 

[Verve]

Do you honestly believe in the possibility of Zaid Hamid's interpretation of Ghazwa-e-Hind in the light of the fact that India have nuclear weapons now?

The relevant Hadith might be pointing towards incursions of Islamic forces in India starting with Muhammad Bin Qasim that eventually culminated into formation of Mughal Empire there.

Big war is inevitable with India ... the only way to undo the fascism that has taken over that nation is by a bloody and brutal war - Fascist Hindu's hatred has to vent and it will, and Pakistan will be sucked in to stop the genocide of Indian muslims or Kashmiris.

I can't see use of strategic nuclear weapons ... it is all hot air when Indians claim that Pakistan's use of tactical nukes on Pak's own soil against Indian Army will result in strategic nukes being fired in reply. Use of strategic nukes in reply by India would result in Pakistan firing nukes in all directions and the big powers would never allow Israel to be targeted from this war.

It won't be surprising that the Indian strategic nukes kill switch is in the hands of USA (or those backing India) by then ...

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

The window of opportunity for open war closed on india when the first allied soldier put his feet in the hellhole of AF....

The door of terrorism opened for india in the Hellhole of AF.... when the US allowed it to build its consulates along Pak borders...

Such intelligence reports must be take with a lump of famous Kashmiri salt... if the intention of such reports is to put pressure on China or Pak then it will only have the opposite effect...

In any scenario if the indians ever try an open war on Pak... the only purpose would be to try to stop China reaching Afro-Asian Ocean...

The US could provide india with weapons, access to space assets or the US might create a bit of trouble in South China Sea...along with Japan as a diversion to the Chinese...

The indians will have to fight their own war on the ground with the Full Force of Sino-Pak Axis....in any scenario i.e. CPEC.

Even with the strategic assets...india doesn't have the numbers... so it is all huff and puff...

Kashmir is not boiling yet... Kashmir is just heating up....summer is long way off...and there is going to be winter..

Snow always melts!

 

[Arsalan 345]

Even if what you allege is remotely true, at the end of the day the foot soldiers who blew them-selfs are either your own citizens or you friend Afghans.

You will still have to admit the the soil is so fertile that the agencies mentioned by you can easily utilize them. So it is not the success of the agencies, rather the twisted mindset that exist within you society that is the root cause.



Wow, another Mumbai.

Well keep on beating the Mujaheddin drum, it will be always in the better interest of Pakistan's foe. Can't you see it's your Mujaheddin and Jihad policy which has done more harm to Pakistan and Afghanistan than anyone else in the region.

Alas some people don't even learn it the hard way.

We are sick and tired.your TV channels your politicians everyone just want to teach Pakistan a lesson as if we are Myanmar or Somalia.you should come out of this mind set. Pakistan will never listen to you because it's an independent state. Stop this war hysteria now.you don't have the courage to start an all out war and we will make your limited war concept into escalation! You know it. Your army knows where they stands.stop war propaganda on TV.nothing is gonna change in Pakistan.

 

[SQ8]

The state currently has no cohesive leadership, the Army is running as an independent organization trying to keep its act(and not Pakistan's necessarily) together. The government or rather the personal fiefdom of Mian Bs is trying tk keep his power with utter disregard for the nation, the rest of the people too are trying to keep their backs intact and doing just enough to keep the system going. In such lack of coordination, there is no reason for India to not exploit weaknesses and stress the state with multiple issues to deal with beyond the already light year long list it has to deal with. All because early on in the 50's the mullah-feaudal-military nexus chose not to educate people and keep their power centers.

The firing is technically insignificant as India cannot do jack at the borders without pushing closer to a situation spiraling out kf control; but it causes confusion, costs and a breakdown of morale.

Pakistanis were coming off a high(based in reality or not) from CPEC and zarb.. and that is pretty much being torn apart.

Once that Morale dips low and world(read nations with military capacity to control world events) opinion is fully in favor of a corneded and dazed Pakistani state machine , then India can and will use more bold and direct military force to change geographical pangs it feels.

 

[Well.wisher]

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What happened madamji .
Even our resident anti Indian haters didnt shows this much hate

We are dirty and impure then ,so be it .

Because india deserve this .
Indian's are never friend to pakistan, they always show hatred , prejudice and abuses to pakistan then nuking it forever is better way .

 

[Eagle_storm]

Lets start once we will tell the history that there once a state exists and a state name rapistan. When the war will start inshallah i pray to Allah let me be the first to kill these sick Indians.

 

[The SC]

As far as I can tell this thread has gone on for 7 pages over FAKE news.
The original article quotes Dawn..yet I see no article in Dawn about it.
I see no news source reporting this "story". It is Eastern Media posting fake news and everybody is eating it up like candy.

look for this title instead, it is the exact same content..

India may launch aggressive actions in Pakistan
http://www.thefinancialexpress-bd.c...y-launch-aggressive-actions-in-Pakistan/print
http://www.thefinancialexpress-bd.c...y-launch-aggressive-actions-in-Pakistan/print

http://epaper.dawn.com/DetailImage.php?StoryImage=13_05_2017_005_008

http://www.dnanews.com.pk/india-may-launch-aggressive-actions-pakistan-us-spies/
http://www.dnanews.com.pk/india-may-launch-aggressive-actions-pakistan-us-spies/
And many more..

 

[graphican]

What legitimizes the translations? ,The translators who wrote them years later after the actual events took place,not to mention the translators have failed to translate many of his works?
Nobody can see the future ,Its a sin in Islam to talk such idiotic claims,Nobody but Allah alone knows the future.
What naiatullah wali (R.A) had was just instinct.
What we shouldn't be confusing is that the difference between instinct and the actual future timeline ,Its just a rough estimate .
According to what I believe ,Pakistan will be thoroughly defeated followed by the attack of allies that drive back India.
How can you defend a place like attock ,Its just simple plains and impossible to defend with no substantial natural or geographical features to assist in such a militaristic manner.

Original Persian text is available and there are millions who speak Persian and English today. It is easy to validate or retranslate.

Regarding defending and repulsion back from Attock "River" and turning of Attock's water red, 3 times with the blood of Indians is mentioned. I do not know "how" part.

Support from a Iran, Turks and Msngols is mentioned. He didn't talk of Arab or support from Bangladesh and today its pretty clear why.

And only Allah knows the future and truth. NiamatAllah wali could be totally wrong, but he hasn't been for the gone events.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

look for this title instead, it is the exact same content..

India may launch aggressive actions in Pakistan
http://www.thefinancialexpress-bd.c...y-launch-aggressive-actions-in-Pakistan/print

http://epaper.dawn.com/DetailImage.php?StoryImage=13_05_2017_005_008

http://www.dnanews.com.pk/india-may-launch-aggressive-actions-pakistan-us-spies/
And many more..

Well I stand corrected.

Here's the only video snippet I can find of Lt Gen Vincent Stewart's testimony.

 

[SrNair]

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Because india deserve this .
Indian's are never friend to pakistan, they always show hatred , prejudice and abuses to pakistan then nuking it forever is better way .

Oh Chill Mam.
I am also an Indian .And I dont hate common Pakistanis .Why should I hate them ?
People in border areas may have reasons for their hate due to Partition.But we dont have such emotions
We can understand the difference between elites of Pakistan having vested interests and common Pakistanis that tries to meets their ends.
I think you have faced some bad experience from internet trolls from India .
Bad people can be find in every society but not all of them are like that .

 

[Finer]

What legitimizes the translations? ,The translators who wrote them years later after the actual events took place,not to mention the translators have failed to translate many of his works?
Nobody can see the future ,Its a sin in Islam to talk such idiotic claims,Nobody but Allah alone knows the future.
What naiatullah wali (R.A) had was just instinct.
What we shouldn't be confusing is that the difference between instinct and the actual future timeline ,Its just a rough estimate .
According to what I believe ,Pakistan will be thoroughly defeated followed by the attack of allies that drive back India.
How can you defend a place like attock ,Its just simple plains and impossible to defend with no substantial natural or geographical features to assist in such a militaristic manner.

Awlia Allah means Friends of ALLAH. Naturally, the chosen Awlia Allah are blessed with the future revelations and the source is ALLAH. The concept of Awlia Allah has been going on since the mankind, and before the arrival of Jesus (PBUH).

When the time for the birth of Hadhrat ‘Isa (May peace be upon him) drew close, his mother Hadhrat Maryam (May peace be upon her) approached a dry date palm with no dates on it. Allah Most High said:

And shake the trunk of the palm-tree toward thee, thou wilt cause ripe dates to fall upon thee.

Allah says in the Holy Quran: “And (the people of the Cave [Kahf]) stayed in their cave for three hundred years and they added another (nine) years (to that).” [Surah Kahf 18:25]

And you see that the sun, when it rises, moves to the right from their cave and inclines obliquely from them to the left when it sets while they are (lying) in the open chamber of the cave. This (change of the sun’s course) is one of the (great) Signs of Allah’s (Might). He whom Allah guides is the one who is rightly guided, but one whom He holds strayed you will not find for him any Wali (friend to help) and Murshid (guide to show the path). [Surah Kahf 18:17]

There is the exchange between Prophet Musa (PBUH) and Khidr (A.S).

He (Khidr) said, ‘If you remain with me, then ask, not anything, unless I myself mention it. Now both of them set out, until when they embarked in a boat, he cleaved it. Musa told, ‘have you cleaved it in order to drown its passengers, undoubtedly you have done a wrong thing.’ He said? ‘Did I not tell you, that you would not be able to stay with me.’ Musa said, ‘catch me not for what I forgot and put not difficulty in my affair on me. Again, both of them set out, until when they met a boy he killed him, Musa said. ‘Have you killed an innocent soul without his having killed another? Undoubtedly you have done a hideous thing’. He said, ‘Had I not told you, that you could never keep company with me’? Musa said, ‘If I ask anything to you after this, then keep not company with me; undoubtedly, your excuse is already fulfilled from my side’. Again both went on till they came to the people of a village, they asked the villagers for food, but they refused to entertain them, then the two found a wall about to fall, he set it up right. Musa said, ‘if you had wished, you could have taken a wage for it’. He said, ‘this is the separation between me and you’; now I shall tell you the explanation of those things over which you could not have patience. As for the boat, it belonged to certain poor people who were working in the sea, then I intended to make it faulty and behind them, there was a king who used to seize every perfect boat forcibly. And as for the boy, his parents were Muslims, then we feared that he might involve them in contumacy and infidelity. Then we intended their Lord might give them one better than he in purity and nearer in affection. As for that wall, it belonged to the two orphan lads of the city and underneath it was their treasure and their father was a noble man; then your Lord desired that those two should reach their maturity and bring forth their treasure as a mercy from your Lord, and this I did, not of my own biding. This is the significance of those things on which you could not have patience [Surah Kahf 18:70 to 82]

The whole story of Moses and Al-Khidr is also told in a hadith and the best commentary of verses & event in words of our beloved Prophet himself:

Narrated Ibn Juraij: Ya’la bin Muslim and ‘Amr bin Dinar and some others narrated the narration of Said bin Jubair. Narrated Said: While we were at the house of Ibn ‘Abbas, Ibn ‘Abbas said, “Ask me (any question)” I said, “O Abu Abbas! May Allah let me be sacrificed for you ! There is a man at Kufa who is a story-teller called Nauf; who claims that he (Al-Khadir’s companion) is not Moses of Bani Israel.” As for ‘Amr, he said to me, “Ibn ‘Abbas said, “(Nauf) the enemy of Allah told a lie.” But Ya’la said to me, “Ibn ‘Abbas said, Ubai bin Ka’b said, Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Once Moses, Allah’s Apostle, preached to the people till their eyes shed tears and their hearts became tender, whereupon he finished his sermon. Then a man came to Moses and asked, ‘O Allah’s Apostle! Is there anyone on the earth who is more learned than you?’ Moses replied, ‘No.’ So Allah admonished him (Moses), for he did not ascribe all knowledge to Allah. It was said, (on behalf of Allah), ‘Yes, (there is a slave of ours who knows more than you ).’ Moses said, ‘O my Lord! Where is he?’ Allah said, ‘At the junction of the two seas.’ Moses said, ‘O my Lord ! Tell I me of a sign whereby I will recognize the place.’ ” ‘Amr said to me, Allah said, “That place will be where the fish will leave you.” Ya’la said to me, “Allah said (to Moses), ‘Take a dead fish (and your goal will be) the place where it will become alive.’ ” So Moses took a fish and put it in a basket and said to his boy-servant “I don’t want to trouble you, except that you should inform me as soon as this fish leaves you.” He said (to Moses).” You have not demanded too much.” And that is as mentioned by Allah: ‘And (remember) when Moses said to his attendant …. ‘ (18.60) Yusha’ bin Nun. (Said did not state that). The Prophet said, “While the attendant was in the shade of the rock at a wet place, the fish slipped out (alive) while Moses was sleeping. His attend an said (to himself), “I will not wake him, but when he woke up, he forgot to tell him The fish slipped out and entered the sea. Allah stopped the flow of the sea. where the fish was, so that its trace looked as if it was made on a rock. ‘Amr forming a hole with his two thumbs an index fingers, said to me, “Like this, as in its trace was made on a rock.” Moses said “We have suffered much fatigue on this journey of ours.” (This was not narrate by Said). Then they returned back and found Al-Khadir. ‘Uthman bin Abi Sulaiman said to me, (they found him) on a green carpet in the middle of the sea. Al-Khadir was covered with his garment with one end under his feet and the other end under his head. When Moses greeted, he uncovered his face and said astonishingly, ‘Is there such a greeting in my land? Who are you?’ Moses said, ‘I am Moses.’ Al-Khadir said, ‘Are you the Moses of Bani Israel?’ Moses said, ‘Yes.’ Al-Khadir said, “What do you want?’ Moses said, ‘ I came to you so that you may teach me of the truth which you were taught.’ Al-Khadir said, ‘Is it not sufficient for you that the Torah is in your hands and the Divine Inspiration comes to you, O Moses? Verily, I have knowledge that you ought not learn, and you have a knowledge which I ought not learn.’ At that time a bird took with its beak (some water) from the sea: Al-Khadir then said, ‘By Allah, my knowledge and your knowledge besides Allah’s Knowledge is like what this bird has taken with its beak from the sea.’ Until, when they went on board the boat (18.71).

They found a small boat which used to carry the people from this sea-side to the other sea-side. The crew recognized Al-Khadir and said, ‘The pious slave of Allah.’ (We said to Said “Was that Khadir?” He said, “Yes.”) The boat men said, ‘We will not get him on board with fare.’ Al-Khadir scuttled the boat and then plugged the hole with a piece o wood. Moses said, ‘Have you scuttle it in order to drown these people surely, you have done a dreadful thing. (18.71) (Mujahid said. “Moses said so protestingly.”) Al-Khadir said, didn’t I say that you can have no patience with me?’ (18.72) The first inquiry of Moses was done because of forget fullness (**or not recalling as forgetfulness does not suit in respect for prophet), the second caused him to be bound with a stipulation, and the third was done he intentionally. Moses said, ‘Call me not to account for what I forgot and be not hard upon me for my affair (with you).’ (18.73)

(Then) they found a boy and Al-Khadir killed him. Ya’la- said: Said said ‘They found boys playing and Al-Khadir got hold of a handsome infidel boy laid him down and then slew him with knife. Moses said, ‘Have you killed a innocent soul who has killed nobody’ (18.74)

Then they proceeded and found a wall which was on the point of falling down, and Al-Khadir set it up straight Said moved his hand thus and said ‘Al-Khadir raised his hand and the wall became straight. Ya’la said, ‘I think Said said, ‘Al-Khadir touched the wall with his hand and it became straight (Moses said to Al-Khadir), ‘If you had wished, you could have taken wages for it. Said said, ‘Wages that we might had eaten.’

And there was a king in furor (ahead) of them” (18.79) And there was in front of them. Ibn ‘Abbas recited: ‘In front of them (was) a king.’ It is said on the authority of somebody other than Said that the king was Hudad bin Budad. They say that the boy was called Haisur. ‘A king who seized every ship by force. (18.79) So I wished that if that boat passed by him, he would leave it because of its defect and when they have passed they would repair it and get benefit from it. Some people said that they closed that hole with a bottle, and some said with tar.

‘His parents were believers, and he (the boy) was a non-believer and we(Khadir) feared lest he would oppress them by obstinate rebellion and disbelief.’ (18.80) (i.e. that their love for him would urge them to follow him in his religion, ‘so we (Khadir) desired that their Lord should change him for them for one better in righteousness and near to mercy’ (18:81). This was in reply to Moses’ saying: Have you killed an innocent soul.’? (18.74). ‘Near to mercy” means they will be more merciful to him than they were to the former whom Khadir had killed. Other than Sa’id, said that they were compensated with a girl. Dawud bin Abi ‘Asim said on the authority of more than one that this next child was a girl. [Sahi Bukhari Book Prophetic Commentary on the Quran 60, Hadith 250]

In fact, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) prophesied that in the End Time, people will be blessed with the revelation as guidance for protection or important purposes.

And it is not for any human being that Allah should speak to him except by revelation or from behind a partition or that He sends a messenger to reveal, by His permission, what He wills. Indeed, He is Most High and Wise. --- ASH SHURAA (42) VERSE 51

Naimatullah Shah (R.A) covered the whole WW1 and WW2 including the separation of Bangladesh from Pakistan. So far, his predictions have been accurate. It doesn't soundlike instinct, insight and future preparation.

Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab (RA):

reported the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) as saying: There are people from the servants of Allah who are neither prophets nor martyrs; the prophets and martyrs will envy them on the Day of Resurrection for their rank from Allah, the Most High.

They (the people) asked: Tell us, Apostle of Allah, who are they? He replied: They are people who love one another for the spirit of Allah (i.e. the Qur'an), without having any mutual kinship and giving property to one. I swear by Allah, their faces will glow and they will be (sitting) in (pulpits of) light. They will have no fear (on the Day) when the people will have fear, and they will not grieve when the people will grieve.

He then recited the following Qur'anic verse: "Behold! Verily for the friends of Allah there is no fear, nor shall they grieve." (Surah Yunus:62)

In reference to the Abdaals, Imam At-Tabarani (Radi Allahu ta'ala Anhu) quotes a Hadith Shareef in which the Beloved Prophet (Salla Allahu ta'alaAlayhi wa Sallam) declares, “There will always exist 40 persons on the Earth, each of whom is blessed like Hadrat Ebrahim (Alaihis Salaam). It rains because of their barakah. Allah appoints another when one of them dies.”

Finally, confirming from Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in the quote below.

the Prophet said: ittaqu firasat al-mu’min fa innahu yara bi nurillah “Beware the vision of the believer, for he sees with the light of Allah,” then he recited the verse: “Therein lie portents for those who read the signs” (al-mutawassimin) (15:75) [Tirmidhi (gharib) from Abu Sa`id al-Khudri, and Tabarani from Abu Imama with a fair (hasan) chain according to al-Haythami in the chapter on firasa of Majma` al-zawa’id]

Check out Muhammad Qasim in Youtube. He is next Awlia Allah who gets revelation from ALLAH straight, and there has been no indication to suggest he is fraud.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCybYujh4WdACDY8D_nj2oEg

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Just ask mujahadeen and they will handle it.Indian weakness is always be it's long coast line.you know what I mean!xd India deserves more Mumbai like scenarios.we are sick are tired if their war hysteria.

Have been hearing for the last 3 decades that India is about to attack any time!!!! Even they amassed the largest forces since WW2 with ammunition boxes opened. And, the USSR was in full presence with full force in Afganistan!!!! Again they tried in 2002 - this time with the USA in full presence with full force in Afganistan!!!! Forget about 2008, 2016 and all every other years!!! Still nothing happened because of Innalilalhi Ve Innailahi Rajeun!!!! As long as that holds what bad thing to expect???? Now, look at conditions vis-à-vis Pak now:

• Paving the way for China to be a two-ocean future Super Power. Even the Jewish folks are considering her as another Zion.
• Pak is securing Hijaz and Haremain.
• Continuous investments in CPEC.
• The USA is in full retreat to fold back into isolation- with 20T$ loan and tricking up!!!
• The China-Russia axis forging ahead to put a stop to the western hegemony.
• Even the white folks don't believes in EC any more!!!
• Last but not the least, the seal on the soul of the Turkish folks is being etched off layer by layer!!!

They believe in conjectures not in the truth!!! The conjectures, IMO, are progressing to be favorable for Pak!!!!!

 

[Mumm-Ra]

Just another day...just another war between India and Pakistan on PDF

 

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The state currently has no cohesive leadership, the Army is running as an independent organization trying to keep its act(and not Pakistan's necessarily) together. The government or rather the personal fiefdom of Mian Bs is trying tk keep his power with utter disregard for the nation, the rest of the people too are trying to keep their backs intact and doing just enough to keep the system going. In such lack of coordination, there is no reason for India to not exploit weaknesses and stress the state with multiple issues to deal with beyond the already light year long list it has to deal with. All because early on in the 50's the mullah-feaudal-military nexus chose not to educate people and keep their power centers.

The firing is technically insignificant as India cannot do jack at the borders without pushing closer to a situation spiraling out kf control; but it causes confusion, costs and a breakdown of morale.

Pakistanis were coming off a high(based in reality or not) from CPEC and zarb.. and that is pretty much being torn apart.

Once that Morale dips low and world(read nations with military capacity to control world events) opinion is fully in favor of a corneded and dazed Pakistani state machine , then India can and will use more bold and direct military force to change geographical pangs it feels.

Great post sir ,from our current capabilities we should focus 5 years for a completely defensive war ,It would require to restructuring the armed forces first.
I would raise a new armored corps ,which would include a conceptualized funding for a Heavy rail gun mounted tank or anything that evolves the concept of armored fighting Supported by the largest tank force in human history ,We operate less tanks than our gigantic primary enemy ,IF anything military history teaches us ,Those who improvise always win.

by 2020 we could hope to induct the JF-17 thunder block 3,on short basis we can start inducting the Chinese 5th generation platform.
-Keeping mind various other platforms we hope to induct for our navy.
All of this and many more in a span of 5 years,Next 5 years will be to prepare for an offensive all out war that would have Primary objectives.
We cut off India from kashmir ,advance if we could until seize fire towards leh/ladakh. The main battle would be to force India on the negotiating table by defending the disputed territories,the offensive would take place prior to escalated international pressure ,Changing global opinion through Allied powers followed by a culminating unexpected attack.
-Seize territory before India fully mobilizes ,Within 24 hours we should be able to dominate their air-force and navy,to do so we should be able to prepare ourselves.

If we want to fight a war ,we should prepare for it at least 5 years prior to the engagement but unfortunately the qoum wants to fight war's with the civilians and the military junta is focused on keeping afloat their Ego's in disney land while the rest of the nation is blinded by CPEC, If we hope to compete with the world we should first find ourselves the hope ,courage and ability to withstand and survive the challenges that face our country by stop asking foreign nations to give us loans ,build bridges and dams.
CPEC sickens me to the core ,it represents what the diseases of our nation as collectively we see in our society due to leadership failure..We shouldn't be asking other nations to give us loans,build airports ,bridges and dams.

Check out Muhammad Qasim in Youtube. He is next Awlia Allah who gets revelation from ALLAH straight, and there has been no indication to suggest he is fraud.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCybYujh4WdACDY8D_nj2oEg

Bro ,I'm aware as I've read what you've posted before.
I also knew about the qasim guy ,he's rising in popularity but I don't believe in him ,Looks to me more like fraud.