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Ultra Far Right Nationalism on the rise in Europe and Russia

Hey flamer84,how we take care of Jobbik faschist anti-romanian,anti-serbian,anti-slovakian movement?

They even have support from Moscow.

Look at this "
Gábor Vona had a lecture at Lomonosov University


Gábor Vona had a lecture at Lomonosov University

Last week Gábor Vona visited Moscow on an invitation. He was invited by a professor of Lomonosov University, Prof. Alexandr Dugin, to present a lecture on the topic of "Russia and Europe".

Prof. Dugin is the former geopolitical advisor of President Putin and now he advises the Speaker of the Duma, the Russian Parliament. Gábor Vona met several leading politicians and had negotiations with them about the important issues of Hungarian-Russian relations. He met Ivan Dmitriyevich Grachov, the president of the Russian Parliament's energy policy committee and Vasiliy Tarasyuk, the vice-president of the same committee, who is also the vice-president of the Russian-Hungarian friendship group. He also spoke with Leonid Ivanovich Kalashnikov, the vice-president of the foreign affairs committee; two government MPs Yevgeniy Fedorov and Anton Vasilyevich Romanov as well as Alexei Anatolyevich Starikov, the vice-president of the Russian gas-industry association.

America: Europe's deformed offspring

The main topics of the discussions were the economic relations of the two countries, the potential Hungarian export and the crisis of the Union - Gábor Vona states in his post. After these meetings he held his presentation at the sociology department of Lomonosov University. The lecture was attended by approximately fifty students and teachers.

In his lecture, he referred to America as the deformed offspring of Europe and the EU as the traitor of our continent. In his view, Russia represents Europe much better than either of the two above, as it preserves its traditions and does not follow the culture of money and the masses. He said that the US could survive by looting and exploiting North America, and this life without traditions and culture was spread to Europe. In his view, Europe has become the servant and a sort of member state of the US, and their economies are so intertwined that a US bankruptcy would bring down Europe as well.


I cant post links,but put in Google Search "Gabor Vona had a lecture in Lomonosov University".They want rebirth of "Great Hungarian" dream.

The hungarian revizionism is the greatest threat facing us right now,not because Hungary is strong but because they have a powerful lobby in Washington.What happened in Kosovo might happen in Transylvania and Vojvodina.The russians are using the hungarians to scare Romania into joining the Eurasian Union,the russians actually dislike hungarians more than romanians.

I will translate a text by Alexandr Dughin and his opinion about Romania and her future role.
 
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We must fight back,my opinion is that Vojvodina will bi first.Why?Becouse our national pride is on the edge of the existance,if you say "I am Serbian patriot" our media will marked you as nationalistic scum,and becouse of Albanians stole our territory,so we are weak now in the eyes of Jobbik.But Sun Tzu says "Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”

Oh mate I didnt know that Alexandar Dugin is Russian Zbignew Brzezinski.So Moscow freely talk about their vision of New Order in Europe and World orchestred by them?

Vostok.You will support Hungarians in their struggle to reunite Great Hungary?Becouse they come first to Moscow for help.
 
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We must fight back,my opinion is that Vojvodina will bi first.Why?Becouse our national pride is on the edge of the existance,if you say "I am Serbian patriot" our media will marked you as nationalistic scum,and becouse of Albanians stole our territory,so we are weak now in the eyes of Jobbik.But Sun Tzu says "Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”

Oh mate I didnt know that Alexandar Dugin is Russian Zbignew Brzezinski.So Moscow freely talk about their vision of New Order in Europe and Euroasia maybe World is next?

Vostok.You will support Hungarians in their struggle to reunite Great Hungary?

I think there are prophecies of a coming 1000 year Russian empire.
 
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We must fight back,my opinion is that Vojvodina will bi first.Why?Becouse our national pride is on the edge of the existance,if you say "I am Serbian patriot" our media will marked you as nationalistic scum,and becouse of Albanians stole our territory,so we are weak now in the eyes of Jobbik.But Sun Tzu says "Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”

Oh mate I didnt know that Alexandar Dugin is Russian Zbignew Brzezinski.So Moscow freely talk about their vision of New Order in Europe and World orchestred by them?

Vostok.You will support Hungarians in their struggle to reunite Great Hungary?Becouse they come first to Moscow for help.

Of course Russia will not support the territorial claims of Hungary to neighbors. And especially - to Serbia. You know, when in 1999, the U.S. bombing of Yugoslavia, the Russian Strategic Missile Forces were put on red alert - in fact, almost started a nuclear war. But then president Boris Yeltsin was a heavy drinker and he did not do anything, did not give the orders. In Russia, people are very warm refer to Serbia and Montenegro. Even to Bulgaria - in spite of the fact that the blood of Russian soldiers liberated the Bulgarians and then they fought against us in both world wars.
Serbs do not have to worry. As far as I know, Russia is already building in Serbia airfield dual purpose - first for the Ministry of Emergency Situations, but it can be quickly converted for military aircrafts.
And Hungary Russia support because we have the same goal - to get rid the world from financial dictatorship of the United States, to protect the true values ​​- family (true family, not a couple of freaks), sovereign state, faith in God and so on.
 
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@vostok and @DejanSRB, I saw the statements of Alexander Dugin and what is saying is bloody right. We are being set up for a financial collapse and then a dictatorship by the anglo-american elite on a global level.
 
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Great Hungary !?

the only thing the hungarians are great at ( right now ) is sending their Hot sluts into america for a high performance in dirty movies !!! :coffee:
 
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@vostok and @DejanSRB, I saw the statements of Alexander Dugin and what is saying is bloody right. We are being set up for a financial collapse and then a dictatorship by the anglo-american elite on a global level.

Dugin as a political scientist and philosopher - I really like. But I would not let him into the real power of a cannon shot. He is cynical and angry - Russian has always belonged to the defeated enemy with a big heart, but he can't do so.
 
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Dugin as a political scientist and philosopher - I really like. But I would not let him into the real power of a cannon shot. He is cynical and angry - Russian has always belonged to the defeated enemy with a big heart, but he can't do so.

Yes,Vostok,I agree .He too like Ivanshov or Zhirinovsky would start off a world war if he takes power. I can see it.He's right on the plans of the anglo-american elite though.
 
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Geopolitics of Romania.

by Alexandr Dughin

1.Romanian geniuses and romanian identity.

Romania has given the world,especially in the 20th century,a whole range of world class geniuses:Nae Ionescu,Mircea Eliade,Emil Cioran,Eugen Ionescu,Stefan Lupascu,Jean Parvulescu,Vsile Lovinescu,Mihail Valsan and many others.

Altough a small country in Eastern Europe,Romania had,in the intelectual field a semnificative contribution to civilisation,comparable to that of the greau european nations,almost surpassing them.This caracteristic of romanian intelectualism reflects the spirit of european thought,indissolubly connected with the spirit of tradition,having its origins,with the ground,roots and tendencies in Antiquity as well as in the eternal european orthodox Orient,which remained virtually unchanged.

The italian professor Claudio Mutti in his article "Mircea Eliade and the unity of Eurasia" refers to the "eurasian nature of the romanian culture".He quotes Eliade:"I felt the descendat and heir of an interesting culture,because it's situated between two worlds:the western world,pure european,and the oriental world.I draw my roots from this two worlds.The western one,through the latin language and by the roman inheritance in customs.But,i was also drawing my roots from a culture influenced by the Orient and rooted in the neolithic.All this are true for a romanian but I think that they are just as true for a bulgarian,a serbo-croat,and finally for the Balkans,for south-eastern Europe and a part of Russia."(M. Eliade, L’épreuve du Labyrinthe, Entrétiens avec Claude-Henri Rocquet, Pierre Belfond, Paris, 1978, p. 26 – 27)

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2.Romania and the structure of her geopolitics option.(euroatlantism and eurocontinentalism)

And now,a few words about the geoplitics of Romania.In the current conditions the term of "Romania's geoplitics" is not apropiate if we consider Romania as a subject of geopolitics.In the architecture of the contemporary world such subject doesn't exist.This comes from the logic of globalist implementation,situation in which the problem is presented thus:there will be one World State,with one world goverment,ruled and dominated by the "rich West",mostly by the USA or an equilibrium will be established between the "large spaces" (Grossraum) of the "new empires" which will integrate whate wete,until then,"nation states".In our world the passing from sovereign nation states will be made towards a world goverment(unipolar world) or towards a new world empire(multipolar world).

Romania's size as a state doesn't allow us to say that in both cases Romania,not even theoretically can become a "pol" ,situatian in which even today's Russia,with all her nuclear armament,natural resources and messianic history finds herself.

Under such conditions,"the geoplotics of Romania" falls under the category "geoploitics of a united Europe".This fact is not just a present political certainty,Romania beeing a member of the EU,but also inevitably comes from her's geoplitical situation.But more then that the "geoplitic of a united Europe" herself is not something guaranteed and secure.Even Europe as a whole,the EU,can count on sovereignity only in a multipolar world and only in such a case Europe will be sovereign and therefore,Romania as a part of it will be sovereign.Adopting the unipolar model of american dominance which refuses Europe's sovereignity,will afect Romania to,as she's a part of Europe.
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3.Geopolitics of the "sanitary cordon"

In the question of establishing the geoplitic identity of Europe we can identify the next model:-the countries of "New Europe"-eastern european countries which tend to have a strong rusophobe tendency,thus joining the euro-atlantic orientation and distancing themselves from the actual continental tendencies of "Old Europe"-firstly France and Germany(the UK is a traditional american ally).This situation has a long history:Estern Europe was a permanent area of fighting between Europe and Russia an example beeing that in the 19th and begining of the 20th century the UK deliberately used this region as a "sanitary cordon" conceived to prevent an eventual russo-german alliance which would prevent the end of the anglo-saxon dominance in the world.Even in our days the same thing happens,the only difference beeing that today the emphasis is on energy projects,in the countries of the "sanitary cordon" beeing introduced the ideea that is also a a retribution for the soviet occupation in the 20th century.New arguements,old geopolitics.

.........................(i am skipping many parts,it's long and i try to present main ideeas).................


4.Greater Romania.

How can we understand in this situation the nationalist geopolitic project of Romania,known as "Greater Romania"? First of all it's about the historical tendency to build up the romanian national state occured in different historical and geopolitical situations.Here we can rely on history,starting with the ancient geto-dacians,mentioning Burebista and Decebal.Later on,the principalities of Moldova and Romanian Country(Valahia) were formed ,states that existed independently untill their conquering by the turks.

It's worthy the mention of Michael the Brave the one who managed at the begining of the 17th century the union between Valahia,Moldova and Transilvania.Romania won her national independence only in the 19th century,this fact beeing recognised at the Berlin Congress in 1878.Romania's strategic weight depended,even in the conditiond of her independence,by the geopolitical forces in her vecinity.It was a relative and fragile sovereignity based on the external power balance between the South (Ottoman empire),West (Austro-Hungary,Germany,France,England) and East(Russia).Therefore the "Greater Romania" project has remained an utopy altough it took a teoretical integral expression with the plans of building a romanian traditionalist state by the teoreticians of the "Iron Guard"(Corneliu Zelea Codreanu,Horia Sima),and,in the next period the Bucharest Real Politik was forced by bigger forces than Romania's potential, to choose,Antonescu chose Germany,Ceausescu the Soviet Union.

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5.Using romanian nationalism by the "atlantism"


One of the most obvious usage of the "Greater Romania" ideea manifests herself in our days when this ideea is beeing used in the interest of atlantism.This has a clear objective:romanian nationalism(perfectly legitim and reasonable at its core) in Real Politik appealing to the ideea of integrating the Republic of Moldova within Romania.It looks like all flows naturally.But this legitimate wish to unite a sinle ethinc group into one country,in the conditions that this country is a NATO member will lead to the frontieres of this organization(NATO) even closer to Russia,and,in this case,the contradictions between Russia and the EU will only grow.In other terms the national utopia "Greater Romania" in practic,transforms itself in a simple extension of the "sanitary cordon",which will not benefit the EU but only the US and atlantism.

To the integration of Moldova we can add Transnistria which has a strategical position for Russia in this region.
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In a certain stage Transnistria will become a very important base for Russia in this region.In such a perspective Greater Romania will become an impediment which the atlantist strategists have foreseen all along.
The frictions between Romania and Hungary,even with the Ukraine are not important for the atlantists and this aspect of romanian nationalism will not have the support of the atlantists besides the fact that at a certain point the USA will consider that they can use this factor to destabilize the situation after the model of Yugoslavia.

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Now the bold part is more and more of a threat as we recently had a letter signed by many US congressmen interfearing in our policies with the hungarian minority and backing them.The russkie may be on to something here.There are increased rumours of "Magyar Garda" paramilitaries preparing to start arm rebellion on Kosovo model and then beg for western interfearence crying wolf(genocide)
 
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Geopolitics of Romania.

by Alexandr Dughin

1.Romanian geniuses and romanian identity.

Romania has given the world,especially in the 20th century,a whole range of world class geniuses:Nae Ionescu,Mircea Eliade,Emil Cioran,Eugen Ionescu,Stefan Lupascu,Jean Parvulescu,Vsile Lovinescu,Mihail Valsan and many others.

Altough a small country in Eastern Europe,Romania had,in the intelectual field a semnificative contribution to civilisation,comparable to that of the greau european nations,almost surpassing them.This caracteristic of romanian intelectualism reflects the spirit of european thought,indissolubly connected with the spirit of tradition,having its origins,with the ground,roots and tendencies in Antiquity as well as in the eternal european orthodox Orient,which remained virtually unchanged.

The italian professor Claudio Mutti in his article "Mircea Eliade and the unity of Eurasia" refers to the "eurasian nature of the romanian culture".He quotes Eliade:"I felt the descendat and heir of an interesting culture,because it's situated between two worlds:the western world,pure european,and the oriental world.I draw my roots from this two worlds.The western one,through the latin language and by the roman inheritance in customs.But,i was also drawing my roots from a culture influenced by the Orient and rooted in the neolithic.All this are true for a romanian but I think that they are just as true for a bulgarian,a serbo-croat,and finally for the Balkans,for south-eastern Europe and a part of Russia."(M. Eliade, L’épreuve du Labyrinthe, Entrétiens avec Claude-Henri Rocquet, Pierre Belfond, Paris, 1978, p. 26 – 27)

..............................................................................................................................

2.Romania and the structure of her geopolitics option.(euroatlantism and eurocontinentalism)

And now,a few words about the geoplitics of Romania.In the current conditions the term of "Romania's geoplitics" is not apropiate if we consider Romania as a subject of geopolitics.In the architecture of the contemporary world such subject doesn't exist.This comes from the logic of globalist implementation,situation in which the problem is presented thus:there will be one World State,with one world goverment,ruled and dominated by the "rich West",mostly by the USA or an equilibrium will be established between the "large spaces" (Grossraum) of the "new empires" which will integrate whate wete,until then,"nation states".In our world the passing from sovereign nation states will be made towards a world goverment(unipolar world) or towards a new world empire(multipolar world).

Romania's size as a state doesn't allow us to say that in both cases Romania,not even theoretically can become a "pol" ,situatian in which even today's Russia,with all her nuclear armament,natural resources and messianic history finds herself.

Under such conditions,"the geoplotics of Romania" falls under the category "geoploitics of a united Europe".This fact is not just a present political certainty,Romania beeing a member of the EU,but also inevitably comes from her's geoplitical situation.But more then that the "geoplitic of a united Europe" herself is not something guaranteed and secure.Even Europe as a whole,the EU,can count on sovereignity only in a multipolar world and only in such a case Europe will be sovereign and therefore,Romania as a part of it will be sovereign.Adopting the unipolar model of american dominance which refuses Europe's sovereignity,will afect Romania to,as she's a part of Europe.
...........................................................................................................................


3.Geopolitics of the "sanitary cordon"

In the question of establishing the geoplitic identity of Europe we can identify the next model:-the countries of "New Europe"-eastern european countries which tend to have a strong rusophobe tendency,thus joining the euro-atlantic orientation and distancing themselves from the actual continental tendencies of "Old Europe"-firstly France and Germany(the UK is a traditional american ally).This situation has a long history:Estern Europe was a permanent area of fighting between Europe and Russia an example beeing that in the 19th and begining of the 20th century the UK deliberately used this region as a "sanitary cordon" conceived to prevent an eventual russo-german alliance which would prevent the end of the anglo-saxon dominance in the world.Even in our days the same thing happens,the only difference beeing that today the emphasis is on energy projects,in the countries of the "sanitary cordon" beeing introduced the ideea that is also a a retribution for the soviet occupation in the 20th century.New arguements,old geopolitics.

.........................(i am skipping many parts,it's long and i try to present main ideeas).................


4.Greater Romania.

How can we understand in this situation the nationalist geopolitic project of Romania,known as "Greater Romania"? First of all it's about the historical tendency to build up the romanian national state occured in different historical and geopolitical situations.Here we can rely on history,starting with the ancient geto-dacians,mentioning Burebista and Decebal.Later on,the principalities of Moldova and Romanian Country(Valahia) were formed ,states that existed independently untill their conquering by the turks.

It's worthy the mention of Michael the Brave the one who managed at the begining of the 17th century the union between Valahia,Moldova and Transilvania.Romania won her national independence only in the 19th century,this fact beeing recognised at the Berlin Congress in 1878.Romania's strategic weight depended,even in the conditiond of her independence,by the geopolitical forces in her vecinity.It was a relative and fragile sovereignity based on the external power balance between the South (Ottoman empire),West (Austro-Hungary,Germany,France,England) and East(Russia).Therefore the "Greater Romania" project has remained an utopy altough it took a teoretical integral expression with the plans of building a romanian traditionalist state by the teoreticians of the "Iron Guard"(Corneliu Zelea Codreanu,Horia Sima),and,in the next period the Bucharest Real Politik was forced by bigger forces than Romania's potential, to choose,Antonescu chose Germany,Ceausescu the Soviet Union.

...............................................................................................................

5.Using romanian nationalism by the "atlantism"


One of the most obvious usage of the "Greater Romania" ideea manifests herself in our days when this ideea is beeing used in the interest of atlantism.This has a clear objective:romanian nationalism(perfectly legitim and reasonable at its core) in Real Politik appealing to the ideea of integrating the Republic of Moldova within Romania.It looks like all flows naturally.But this legitimate wish to unite a sinle ethinc group into one country,in the conditions that this country is a NATO member will lead to the frontieres of this organization(NATO) even closer to Russia,and,in this case,the contradictions between Russia and the EU will only grow.In other terms the national utopia "Greater Romania" in practic,transforms itself in a simple extension of the "sanitary cordon",which will not benefit the EU but only the US and atlantism.

To the integration of Moldova we can add Transnistria which has a strategical position for Russia in this region.
................................................................................................................................


In a certain stage Transnistria will become a very important base for Russia in this region.In such a perspective Greater Romania will become an impediment which the atlantist strategists have foreseen all along.
The frictions between Romania and Hungary,even with the Ukraine are not important for the atlantists and this aspect of romanian nationalism will not have the support of the atlantists besides the fact that at a certain point the USA will consider that they can use this factor to destabilize the situation after the model of Yugoslavia.

.......................................................................................


Now the bold part is more and more of a threat as we recently had a letter signed by many US congressmen interfearing in our policies with the hungarian minority and backing them.The russkie may be on to something here.There are increased rumours of "Magyar Garda" paramilitaries preparing to start arm rebellion on Kosovo model and then beg for western interfearence crying wolf(genocide)

So who wants to balkanize you ? West or Russia?
 
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6.Romania in the Eurasia project.

Now,we can present in a few words the teoretic model in which Romania can participate in the Eurasian project.
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It's a lot to translate so i will stop.:)))

Basically his main ideeas are in a nutshell...come to the dark side,we have cookies.Joke apart the russian politolog launches the ideea that in a Eurasian Uniion Romania will be more respected then in the EU ,Russia will allow a union between us and Moldova ,they will even throw in a few pieces of Ukraine in, that we lost in the 19th century and WW2.They will support the Greater Romania project,oppose any hungarian revizionism but only under the umbrella of the Eurasian Union.Their talks with the hungarians are only scare mongering pointed at us.

So who wants to balkanize you ? West or Russia?

Both...we have to joggle to get a better deal from the two of them as we always did throughout history,the russians seem more brutal to me.
 
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6.Romania in the Eurasia project.

Now,we can present in a few words the teoretic model in which Romania can participate in the Eurasian project.
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It's a lot to translate so i will stop.:)))

Basically his main ideeas are in a nutshell...come to the dark side,we have cookies.Joke apart the russian politolog launches the ideea that in a Eurasian Uniion Romania will be more respected then in the EU ,Russia will allow a union between us and Moldova ,they will even throw in a few pieces of Ukraine in, that we lost in the 19th century and WW2.They will support the Greater Romania project,oppose any hungarian revizionism but only under the umbrella of the Eurasian Union.Their talks with the hungarians are only scare mongering pointed at us.



Both...we have to joggle to get a better deal from the two of them as we always did throughout history,the russians seem more brutal to me.

.come to the dark side

Both sides are dark.According to me ,the western faction has more darkness.


??? Aren't you part of NATO? If this is true , the Romania should leave NATO and develop nuclear weapons ....
 
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Both sides are dark.According to me ,the western faction has more darkness.



??? Aren't you part of NATO? If this is true , the Romania should leave NATO and develop nuclear weapons ....

That would be something,with the current enslaved political elites we barely managed to develop romanian tractors 23 years after 1989 revolution.First things first,we are on the good road,after the initial shock in the 1990's when the country was robbed blind ,the industry scrapped and nobody moved a finger in these last years we awoke as a nation and managed to stop many fraudulent privatisations,selling of our resources as we are begining to have a voice.

We have to joggle to survive,as we always did in our history.From immemorial times this nation was caught between migrating tribes,slavs,cumans,bulgars,pecenegs,magyars,then the mongol tatars,Hungarian Kingdom,Ottoman empire,Hapsburg empire,The poweful Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth,The Austro-hungarian empire,than came the Russian Empire,then Germany,this goes on for centuries but we managed to survive keeping intact our traditions and our religion.Endure and survive in the future we will,believe me!
 
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We must fight back,my opinion is that Vojvodina will bi first.Why?Becouse our national pride is on the edge of the existance,if you say "I am Serbian patriot" our media will marked you as nationalistic scum,and becouse of Albanians stole our territory,so we are weak now in the eyes of Jobbik.But Sun Tzu says "Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”

Oh mate I didnt know that Alexandar Dugin is Russian Zbignew Brzezinski.So Moscow freely talk about their vision of New Order in Europe and World orchestred by them?

Vostok.You will support Hungarians in their struggle to reunite Great Hungary?Becouse they come first to Moscow for help.

There's nothing to be done but show the West that the hungarians are lying and that they are not discriminated as a minority in Slovakia,Romania and Serbia and that theirs is just a revizionist propaganda.Armed retaliation for now is excluded as we will suffer the fate of Serbia in the 90's.

Unfortunately the West is very biased when it comes of hungarians and orthodox nations.Look what happened in 1990 in Romania and how they were biased,trying to blame the romanians as to force an intervention and destabilise the country.We had a narrow escape back then.They presented a romanian beaten by hungarians as a hungarian beaten by romanians.How twisted is that??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_clashes_of_Târgu_Mureș#Western_media_involvement
 
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That would be something,with the current enslaved political elites we barely managed to develop romanian tractors 23 years after 1989 revolution.First things first,we are on the good road,after the initial shock in the 1990's when the country was robbed blind ,the industry scrapped and nobody moved a finger in these last years we awoke as a nation and managed to stop many fraudulent privatisations,selling of our resources as we are begining to have a voice.

We have to joggle to survive,as we always did in our history.From immemorial times this nation was caught between migrating tribes,slavs,cumans,bulgars,pecenegs,magyars,then the mongol tatars,Hungarian Kingdom,Ottoman empire,Hapsburg empire,The poweful Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth,The Austro-hungarian empire,than came the Russian Empire,then Germany,this goes on for centuries but we managed to survive keeping intact our traditions and our religion.Endure and survive in the future we will,believe me!

Juggling won't work as almost all communications in NATO nations are monitored by NSA and its puppet corporates.You will have advantage to russians in negotiations ,but the west will be aware of your plans in advance. This is why if what you claim is true,it is extremely critical that you leave NATO and invest in developing biological and nuclear weaponry.These two are the only guarantee to keep predatory superpowers at bay.
 
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