Ukraine war will make China more cautious on Taiwan, advisers say

[Han Patriot]

Why is China not in Russia?


More like the PLA is sweating out a new higher estimate of casualties for Xi.

Huh wtf are you saying? Why should we be in Russia, we not stronk like USA. We are just poor plastic toy maker. So now stronk superpower USA needs to compare himself to China... Pathetic!

So now your new excuse for being a coward is China? Gosh, you guys are an embarrassment. First you justify your abandonment of Ukraine by saying they are fighting and winning the war, now this. Dude imagine Ukraine is a women getting raped, she is still penetrate with a dick despite pushing the rapist away slightly, he is still thrusting her like hell, while her cuckold husband USA watches on and cheer. Lolol

 

[chinasun]

The Taiwan issue is a branch of the Sino-American issue. If Taiwan declares its independence. China will announce that it will not be the first to use nuclear weapons on the Taiwan issue. Lure the United States and its allies to Taiwan to fight a controllable protracted war. When the US dollar hegemony disintegrates, that is, the time for Taiwan to end the war. In China's view, the starting point of all issues is the hegemony of the dollar.
Taiwan has been in a tense situation for a long time, and the ones most affected are export-dependent South Korea and Japan. The second is the United States. Money that can't buy enough products will depreciate.

 

[qwerrty]

oh, they gonna be very cautious for sure. they gonna bombed the shit out them before moving in to clean up. like others posted above, it's gonna be bad for taiwan from this rus-ukr lessons.

 

[gambit]

oh, they gonna be very cautious for sure. they gonna bombed the shit out them before moving in to clean up. like others posted above, it's gonna be bad for taiwan from this rus-ukr lessons.

So China would rather destroy the island and commit genocide rather than let Taiwan go. I guess when you have no skin in the game, the lives of other peoples are easily dismissed.

 

[Han Patriot]

So China would rather destroy the island and commit genocide rather than let Taiwan go. I guess when you have no skin in the game, the lives of other peoples are easily dismissed.

America was willing to fight a war till the last Taiwanese too matey. Just like in Ukraine, you watched and cheer ok Ukraine while they get raped. Like a good old cuck.. Lol

 

[TheSolution]

America was willing to fight a war till the last Taiwanese too matey. Just like in Ukraine, you watched and cheer ok Ukraine while they get raped. Like a good old cuck.. Lol

When, or if, China invades Taiwan, there is one thing you should certainly expect from the West:

A trending hashtag #PrayForTaiwan and a brand new profile picture for everyone to show their support with

Apart from that, you should be fine!

 

[gambit]

America was willing to fight a war till the last Taiwanese too matey. Just like in Ukraine, you watched and cheer ok Ukraine while they get raped. Like a good old cuck.. Lol

As if YOU would join the PLA to 'liberate' Taiwan...

You probably would get seasick just watching the water in the bathtub, let alone being inside an amphib crossing the strait.

 

[blain2]

Lmao.. I agree with you.. There is alot of truth in that because they will make sure that if they move on Taiwan they will use nukes.. If Taiwan gets hit once the battle could be over before it even starts

Why would China use "nuclear weapons" on what are essentially ethnic Chinese people? That is a misplaced understanding.

China will have to win over Taiwan either diplomatically or via a conventional war. I agree that Russia's performance has been dismal in this war. There is so much to be said about what was expected of the Russians and what they ended up delivering (which isn't much).

China should double and triple down on its training and tactics. If they are looking to overwhelm Taiwanese with sheer numbers, that won't do it. They will need quality troops, realistic planning and logistics that actually work. None of this comes easy.

Most importantly, China has to find a way to shield itself from the economic pressures that will come with any such ventures. Russian economy has been brought to its knees because they did not understand what damage our current networked international monetary system can do to an individual country cut from it.

Obviously, the hope is that China and Taiwan can re-unite peacefully (East-West Germany is a good model) without any of the bloodshed.

 

[Han Patriot]

When, or if, China invades Taiwan, there is one thing you should certainly expect from the West:

A trending hashtag #PrayForTaiwan and a brand new profile picture for everyone to show their support with

Apart from that, you should be fine!

And the ROC flag as their profile pic, funny how fading colors flag is no more a trend. Lol

As if YOU would join the PLA to 'liberate' Taiwan...

You probably would get seasick just watching the water in the bathtub, let alone being inside an amphib crossing the strait.

And you would volunteer to defend Taiwan? Lolol. Don't talk a lot numb nuts, we know US is gonna provide sanctions and moral support while we reclaim our own territory. Lol. Now buzz off and concentrate on necking blacks, that's your forte, but you might be a Asian American wannabe.

As usual a cowardice country who only invades poor 3rd World nations.

 

[Zibago]

So China would rather destroy the island and commit genocide rather than let Taiwan go. I guess when you have no skin in the game, the lives of other peoples are easily dismissed.

I know exactly what you mean buddy I mean some countries tested MOAB on civilians and hate droned children while exiting a war
Lives of people are just numbers for such heartless thugs

 

[kingQamaR]

China would certainly succeed in taking Taiwan - but only at severe human cost and damage to its military reputation. What will REALLY be making them think twice is the scope of the sanctions being applied to Russia by the West

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Taiwan is isolated with only the US as an ally. In the event of war, only the US can help Taiwan. No other country can due to no diplomatic recognition. Oh, and Chinese military is 10 times more powerful than Russian military, especially in navy and air force. Chinese military literally makes Russian military look like a joke.

Kiev has a population of 2.5-3M

Taipei has an urban population of 8-9M.

Have fun with that China.

The larger the population in a city, the more vulnerable to siege.

In terms of size ratio, Taiwan to China is much worse than Ukraine to Russia. Taiwan is only 30,000 square kilometers. China is 9.6 million square kilometers. That's a huge size difference. Taiwan is much smaller than China compared to Ukraine is smaller than Russia.

Also, US navy can't get past China naval blockade of Taiwan due to land based anti ship missiles, J-20 fighter jets, Type 055 destroyers.

The US public would never support a naval war in Taiwan strait and losing thousands of American servicemen in Taiwan strait.

@F-22Raptor @gambit

 

[gambit]

I agree that Russia's performance has been dismal in this war. There is so much to be said about what was expected of the Russians and what they ended up delivering (which isn't much).

Everyone, myself included, got snookered by the apparent might of the Russian military on paper. By everyone, that included Xi Jinping and the PLA. Now, everyone is in shock.

China should double and triple down on its training and tactics. If they are looking to overwhelm Taiwanese with sheer numbers, that won't do it. They will need quality troops, realistic planning and logistics that actually work. None of this comes easy.

Most importantly, China has to find a way to shield itself from the economic pressures that will come with any such ventures. Russian economy has been brought to its knees because they did not understand what damage our current networked international monetary system can do to an individual country cut from it.

Then you are looking at YEARS of preparation in political, economics, and military fronts.

Since am USAF, and I have been patient then critical of the VKS in this Russia-Ukraine war, am looking at how China view airpower. The Soviet/Russia view of airpower is that of the 'airborne artillery' perspective. It is limited in scope. The problem for the PLA is that its model of airpower mimicked the Russia model. Another problem is that the Russia/China employment of airpower is that of the ground control intercept (GCI) concept. Basically, the pilot depends on a ground air control officer for just about everything. The 'airborne artillery' perspective meshes with the GCI concept of airpower employment. Pilots are restrained in responses if they encounter resistance. Training focuses more on obeying orders than on taking initiatives. Now, with the VKS basically in shambles over Ukraine, the PLAAF essentially have to start from zero in terms of doctrines and training. Without airpower, no invasion of Taiwan is possible.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Without airpower, no invasion of Taiwan is possible.

Let's see how long F-16 can last against J-20. My guess is not very long.

 

[kingQamaR]

Taiwan should acquire enough anti-ship missiles to sink the entire Chinese navy twice. Build up reinforced concrete bunkers at every corner of potential amphibious landing spots just like the Germans did in France with the wall of the Atlantic in ww2. Acquire shoulder fired anti-armour, anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons by the hundreds of thousands. When the time comes, there is guarantee there will be the possibility of re-supply by the US navy in case of a naval blockade. Most likely, they will organize a massive airborne deployment on a scale never seen before, attempting to seize key infrastructure after targeting them with ballistic and cruise missiles. There needs to be thousands of anti-aircraft batteries just like in ww2, to overwhelm the airborne troops with bullets and deny them any remote chance at landing their feet on the ground. This will require huge ammunition stock which must be protected at all cost in deep underground bunkers.