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A Whopping $20 Billion In Military Aid, US Making Chinese Invasion Of Taiwan Deadlier Than Ukraine

If China Invades, Taiwan Could Target Shanghai And Beijing With Cruise Missiles
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If Beijing pulls the trigger and sends its forces streaming across the Taiwan Strait, the war could end quickly. Chinese rockets could pummel Taiwanese forces into submission, clearing the way for tens of thousands of Chinese marines to rush ashore on the plains of southwestern Taiwan.

That’s the best-case scenario for China. The worst-case scenario is that the invasion gets hung up on Taiwan’s fortified island of Penghu, the U.S. Navy sends in two or three aircraft carrier battle groups and the war drags out for many bloody weeks.

If that happens, Taiwan could do more than merely defend its islands and beaches. It could strike back at China with a growing arsenal of long-range, supersonic cruise missiles that could reach as far inland as Beijing.

There was a time, not long ago, when Taiwan’s armed forces were both more sophisticated than China’s and, in key categories such as missile-armed warships, more numerous.

This despite China’s billion-plus people hugely outnumbering Taiwan’s own 20 million people.

Chinese reforms in the late 1990s and early 2000s opened up the country’s economy. Two decades of explosive growth fueled a rapid modernization of the Chinese military. In 2020 the People’s Liberation Army possesses more and better ships, planes and vehicles than the Taiwanese military possesses.

Unable directly to compete with China, Taiwan has rewritten its war strategy. Instead of meeting the PLA plane-for-plane, ship-for-ship and tank-for-tank, the Taiwanese military plans to let the Chinese get close—then lob thousands of missiles at them. “Taiwan's objectives are to deter and delay potential invasion,” the Washington, D.C.-based Nuclear Threat Initiative explained.

Taiwan’s huge and growing missile arsenal includes Stinger, Chaparral, Patriot, Tien Chien and Tien Kung surface-to-air missiles; Javelin, TOW and Hellfire anti-tank missiles; and Harpoon and Hsiung Feng anti-ship missiles.

Those shorter-range missiles essentially are defensive in nature. For hitting back at China, Taiwan fields Wan Chien air-launched cruise missiles and Yun Feng ground-launched cruise missiles.

The Yun Feng, a product of Taiwan’s own National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology, poses the greater threat to China.
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The missile can travel as far as a thousand miles with a 500-pound warhead. It’s unclear what kind of guidance systems it includes, but it could be a combination of GPS and self-contained inertial guidance.

The Yun Feng is supersonic thanks to its combined-cycle propulsion. A solid rocket booster accelerate the missile to its cruise speed, at which point an air-fed ramjet takes over. Japan’s fearsome ASM-3 anti-ship missile uses the same kind of propulsion.

In theory, Yun Fengs launching from Taiwan could strike PLA bases in Shanghai and Beijing. Airfields and command centers are the most valuable targets.

“In fielding modern cruise missiles, Taipei conveys to Beijing that a war would not be confined to the island and surrounding waters,” explained the American Enterprise Institute in Washington, D.C. “Cruise missiles allow Taipei to inflict costs on China, both by striking PLA targets and by bringing the war home for Chinese citizens.”

The PLA could attempt to defend against barrages of Yun Fengs by positioning surface-to-air missile batteries around the most important bases and by suppressing Taiwanese missile units on the ground.

But missile-defenses rarely work. And it’s notoriously difficult to destroy small, mobile launch units when they’re under concealment. During wartime, Taiwan probably would be able to launch most of its Yun Fengs. And most of those would hit something.

Taiwan began fielding the Yun Feng as early as 2014. Testing continued in 2020. It’s unclear how many Yun Fengs Taiwan has deployed or plans to deploy. But the more cruise missiles Taiwan can launch at China, the riskier an invasion becomes for Beijing.
 
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What have you smoked today? Japan's navy ain't shit in front of Chinese Navy today. Bring your royal small Britain navy in, China can sink your entire navy in one day. :p: :sniper:

Qing dynasty also said the same thing with their 1000 navy warships which were counterfeit and sunk by the Royal Navy in 24 hours
 
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The Russian military has proven to be an utter embarrassment in the conflict in Ukraine. Russian military equipment turned out to be a major joke.

The Chinese will probably subdue Taiwan more efficiently, as the Chinese are more strategically adapt as they learn fast from others mistakes. China also has strategic patience and won’t rush to war unless it is certain the odds overwhelmingly favor them.

The probability of the US or Japan physically joining a war against China is next to zero.
 
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Qing dynasty also said the same thing with their 1000 navy warships which were counterfeit and sunk by the Royal Navy in 24 hours
Lol, how about Tang dynasty? wars happened hundreds of years ago mean anything today? then Mongols should be the No. 1 world power now.

If China Invades, Taiwan Could Target Shanghai And Beijing With Cruise Missiles
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If Beijing pulls the trigger and sends its forces streaming across the Taiwan Strait, the war could end quickly. Chinese rockets could pummel Taiwanese forces into submission, clearing the way for tens of thousands of Chinese marines to rush ashore on the plains of southwestern Taiwan.

That’s the best-case scenario for China. The worst-case scenario is that the invasion gets hung up on Taiwan’s fortified island of Penghu, the U.S. Navy sends in two or three aircraft carrier battle groups and the war drags out for many bloody weeks.

If that happens, Taiwan could do more than merely defend its islands and beaches. It could strike back at China with a growing arsenal of long-range, supersonic cruise missiles that could reach as far inland as Beijing.

There was a time, not long ago, when Taiwan’s armed forces were both more sophisticated than China’s and, in key categories such as missile-armed warships, more numerous.

This despite China’s billion-plus people hugely outnumbering Taiwan’s own 20 million people.

Chinese reforms in the late 1990s and early 2000s opened up the country’s economy. Two decades of explosive growth fueled a rapid modernization of the Chinese military. In 2020 the People’s Liberation Army possesses more and better ships, planes and vehicles than the Taiwanese military possesses.

Unable directly to compete with China, Taiwan has rewritten its war strategy. Instead of meeting the PLA plane-for-plane, ship-for-ship and tank-for-tank, the Taiwanese military plans to let the Chinese get close—then lob thousands of missiles at them. “Taiwan's objectives are to deter and delay potential invasion,” the Washington, D.C.-based Nuclear Threat Initiative explained.

Taiwan’s huge and growing missile arsenal includes Stinger, Chaparral, Patriot, Tien Chien and Tien Kung surface-to-air missiles; Javelin, TOW and Hellfire anti-tank missiles; and Harpoon and Hsiung Feng anti-ship missiles.

Those shorter-range missiles essentially are defensive in nature. For hitting back at China, Taiwan fields Wan Chien air-launched cruise missiles and Yun Feng ground-launched cruise missiles.

The Yun Feng, a product of Taiwan’s own National Chung-Shan Institute of Science and Technology, poses the greater threat to China.
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The missile can travel as far as a thousand miles with a 500-pound warhead. It’s unclear what kind of guidance systems it includes, but it could be a combination of GPS and self-contained inertial guidance.

The Yun Feng is supersonic thanks to its combined-cycle propulsion. A solid rocket booster accelerate the missile to its cruise speed, at which point an air-fed ramjet takes over. Japan’s fearsome ASM-3 anti-ship missile uses the same kind of propulsion.

In theory, Yun Fengs launching from Taiwan could strike PLA bases in Shanghai and Beijing. Airfields and command centers are the most valuable targets.

“In fielding modern cruise missiles, Taipei conveys to Beijing that a war would not be confined to the island and surrounding waters,” explained the American Enterprise Institute in Washington, D.C. “Cruise missiles allow Taipei to inflict costs on China, both by striking PLA targets and by bringing the war home for Chinese citizens.”

The PLA could attempt to defend against barrages of Yun Fengs by positioning surface-to-air missile batteries around the most important bases and by suppressing Taiwanese missile units on the ground.

But missile-defenses rarely work. And it’s notoriously difficult to destroy small, mobile launch units when they’re under concealment. During wartime, Taiwan probably would be able to launch most of its Yun Fengs. And most of those would hit something.

Taiwan began fielding the Yun Feng as early as 2014. Testing continued in 2020. It’s unclear how many Yun Fengs Taiwan has deployed or plans to deploy. But the more cruise missiles Taiwan can launch at China, the riskier an invasion becomes for Beijing.
In this theory North Korea can wipe out US as well
 
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Qing dynasty also said the same thing with their 1000 navy warships which were counterfeit and sunk by the Royal Navy in 24 hours
Qing Dynasty lost a war against a few thousand invasion army from 8 countries but New China under Chinese communist fought whole united nation lead alone saved north Korea. Qing Dynasty almost has no industry but New China is current only world manufactory. I guessing you smoke too much to do your own math.
 
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Qing Dynasty lost a war against a few thousand invasion army from 8 countries but New China under Chinese communist fought whole united nation lead alone saved north Korea. Qing Dynasty almost has no industry but New China is current only world manufactory. I guessing you smoke too much to do your own math.

Chinese have a history of losing wars due to poor work man ship going all the way back to the mongol invasion of Japan

The mongols had over 1,000 ships built in China for the invasion force and all ships sank due to the divine wind

What was also more divine was the poor quality of the warships with wooden beams cut too short and quality of wood used

Poor construction resulted in the fleet sinking

So we all know Chinese naval quality has been questionable for over 1,000 years
 
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This won’t make any difference unless Taiwan people fight to death which I doubt.

Not every one in Taiwan want a war. Lots of Taiwan people want to avoid confrontation.

Ukraine in an independent country. It’s massive largest in Europe and has land borders. Comparing Taiwan and Ukraine don’t make sense. Not to mention Ukrainians are tough people just like Russians. They are both Slavic.

Taiwan if it does go to war will only win if USA goes all in. Not just sending bunch of arms. doubt usa will go for it unless they want a nuclear confrontation.
 
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Chinese have a history of losing wars due to poor work man ship going all the way back to the mongol invasion of Japan

The mongols had over 1,000 ships built in China for the invasion force and all ships sank due to the divine wind

What was also more divine was the poor quality of the warships with wooden beams cut too short and quality of wood used

Poor construction resulted in the fleet sinking

So we all know Chinese naval quality has been questionable for over 1,000 years
Your logic the Mongol failed to invade Japan = Chinese made ships poor quality? How about during Ming Dynasty, Ming naval were the most strongest naval in the planet. You smoked pot very day?
 
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Chinese have a history of losing wars due to poor work man ship going all the way back to the mongol invasion of Japan

The mongols had over 1,000 ships built in China for the invasion force and all ships sank due to the divine wind

What was also more divine was the poor quality of the warships with wooden beams cut too short and quality of wood used

Poor construction resulted in the fleet sinking

So we all know Chinese naval quality has been questionable for over 1,000 years


chinese lose wars because they had no nation/govt/leader worth protecting or following

this why u see so many chinese anti-china immigrants today (same for india too)
 
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chinese lose wars because they had no nation/govt/leader worth protecting or following

this why u see so many chinese anti-china immigrants today
China have lost some wars but also won many wars. China were always one of the most dominated empire most of his history.
 
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China have lost some wars but also won many wars. China were always one of the most dominated empire most of his history.
no u were mostly fighting against urselves

even now ur little wannabe kings have daily power struggles
 
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As China ramps up military activity along the Taiwan Strait, the United States recently announced US$345 million in military aid for Taiwan even as the total aid to the self-ruled island state is nearing a whopping $20 billion.

Aimed at arming Taiwan to the teeth, the US announced the package on July 28, which is believed to be the first such package under the Biden administration to use American stocks to assist Taiwan in countering China. The package will include “defense articles,” military education, and training, US President Joe Biden’s administration said.

Although the specifics of the latest package are unknown, according to reports, Washington could supply equipment like MANPADS, intelligence & surveillance tools, to Taiwan.

With China’s enhanced military activity in the Taiwan Strait and concerns that the country could launch an invasion of Taiwan by 2027, the island state has gone on a military shopping spree to build combat capability to defend itself from the Chinese onslaught.

The announcement comes even as the Pentagon and White House are under pressure from US senators to accelerate the delivery of arms to Taiwan. The goals are two-fold: to aid Taiwan in fending off China and to deter China from considering attacking in the first place by providing Taipei with enough weapons to make an invasion ‘very costly.’

Taiwan won’t have to wait for military manufacturing and sales because this assistance is a component of a presidential authority Congress approved last year to draw weapons from current US military stocks. Compared to funding for new weapons, this expedites the delivery of weaponry.

Earlier this year, US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Washington would provide “significant” military aid to Taiwan to deter China. Austin said he was pleased that “the United States will soon provide significant additional security assistance to Taiwan through (the) presidential drawdown authority (PDA) that Congress authorized last year.”

The Pentagon has used a similar power to deliver weapons valued at billions of dollars to Ukraine. Unlike Ukraine, which has been fighting a war against Russia for more than sixteen months, Taiwan has been continually threatened by China.

China has increased its military aircraft flights into Taiwan’s Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ) and dispatched warships to sail near the strait to assert its control over the island and put more political pressure on its government to join the mainland.

Despite the absence of official diplomatic ties, the US is required by law to arm Taiwan so that it can defend itself. China regularly criticizes such arms purchases. As Washington sanctions one aid package after another, EurAsian Times looks into some of the powerful weapons Taiwan is buying/bought from the US.

What Is Taiwan Buying From the US
This number of systems explored here is an exhaustive list of weaponry that Taiwan has either already purchased or is in the process of purchasing from the United States with an eye on creating effective deterrence.

Combat Drones
Four unidentified sources told Reuters on July 27 that the military shipment might include four unarmed MQ-9A reconnaissance drones. Since the authorities were still working out the specifics of removing some of the sophisticated electronics from the drones that only the US Air Force is permitted access to, it wasn’t clear whether the drones would be handed over to Taiwan.
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EurAsian Times could not independently confirm whether Taiwan would receive the much anticipated and advanced MQ-9A reconnaissance drones in the latest package. However, the MQ-9A would be in addition to the Sea Guardian variant of the drones that Taiwan has already purchased.

Taiwan has already paid US$217 million for four MQ-9B “Sea Guardian” drones from the previous government of US President Donald Trump. Taiwan is anticipated to get the Sea Guardian drones by 2025.

Man-Portable Air Defense Systems (MANPADS)
As soon as the military package was announced, military watchers speculated that this new package would most likely include additional Stinger MANPADS to bolster what is referred to as Taiwan’s asymmetrical warfare. The successful use of MANPADS to defeat and shoot down hostile aircraft has impressed Taiwan and inspired it to add advanced American portable defense systems to its arsenal.

In late May, Taiwan received the first batch of FIM-92 Stinger air defense missiles from the US as part of a $500 million military aid package in a delayed delivery due to the ongoing Ukraine war.
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According to reports, the air defense weapons delivered to the Taiwanese military were portable handheld models. The military employs several Stinger variants, including the Dual Mount Stinger, the Avenger weapons system mounted on a Humvee, and the air-launched Apache attack helicopter configuration.

AD Systems & Precision-Guided Missiles
Su Tzu-yun, a research researcher at Taiwan’s Institute for National Defense and Security Research, expressed a contrasting perspective, claiming that the Pentagon most likely prioritized the delivery of precision-guided weapons in the July 28 package.

The researcher said some of these could include the Norwegian Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile System (NASAMS) and the MIM-104 “Patriot” missiles besides the FIM-92 Stinger.

While Taiwan already has the advanced Patriot missile defense batteries in its arsenal, a State Department notice obtained by Bloomberg News last December revealed that the US has proposed selling Taiwan up to 100 of its most powerful Patriot air-defense missiles, together with radar and other equipment, in a deal valued at $882 million.
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Moreover, while there is no official confirmation of this yet, there have been reports of Taiwan also considering buying the NASAMS, which have proven their efficiency in combat in Ukraine.

Earlier, Taiwan’s defense minister Chiu Kuo-cheng cited the missile’s success rate in intercepting Russian missiles, which has inspired Taipei to view the system as a possible counter to Chinese fighter bombers, drones, and land-attack cruise and ballistic missiles.

Moreover, Chiu stated optimistically that the NASAMS would “upgrade its air defense capabilities.” “The enemy situation must do this work. We have seen from the Russia-Ukraine war that these weapons have good performance,” Chiu added.

Besides, Taiwan has also purchased missiles like AGM-84L-1 Harpoon Block II Missiles, AIM-9X Block II Sidewinder Missiles, Volcano (vehicle-launched) anti-tank munition-laying systems, and AGM-88B HARM, HARM training missiles, AIM-120C-8AMRAAM, and AIM-120C-8 AMRAAM Guidance Sections.

Fighter Jets
Although not included in the latest package, Taiwan’s most significant purchase from the United States is the F-16V fighter jets that are being delivered in batches to the self-ruled state to face off against PLAAF’s advanced combat planes, like the J-20 stealth fighters and the H-6 class of bombers.

The latest package comes on top of the almost US$19 billion in military sales to Taiwan, including F-16s and other expensive weaponry systems. The United States in 2019 approved a US$8 billion sale of Lockheed Martin F-16 fighter jets to Taiwan, a deal that would take the island’s F-16 fleet to more than 200 jets, the largest in Asia.
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In May this year, Taiwan’s Minister of Defense, Chiu Kuo-cheng, announced the delivery of 66 advanced new F-16Vs from the United States had been delayed due to supply chain disruption, and the ministry was working to minimize the impact and “makeup deficiencies.”

“Multiple channels are being used, and we are minimizing the damage from this,” he said, adding they still expected to get the full order delivered before 2026.

Artillery
Like several US weapon systems that have found widespread combat popularity, especially in the wake of the Ukraine war, HIMARS is also making its way to Taiwan. The purchase of 11 HIMARS M142 launchers was first agreed upon between Taiwan and the US in 2021.

The MND abandoned its plan to purchase 40 M109A6 “Paladin” self-propelled howitzers in 2022 when Washington claimed the howitzers would not be delivered on time due to low production capacity. As a result, Taiwan decided to purchase 18 more of the howitzers in 2022.

According to a May announcement from the Ministry of National Defense (MND), Taiwan would get the High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) M142 launchers it purchased from the United States one year sooner than expected.
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Moreover, MND also announced that the Army will take delivery of 29 HIMARS, a long-range precision strike weapon system, beginning 2026, a year earlier than the original 2027 date, after Washington agrees to prioritize sending the rocket system to Taipei to meet its needs, the ministry said in a press release.

The Army also increased its order for Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS) from 64 to 84, the Liberty Times reported.

The total US military sales to Taiwan now run into billions of dollars, touching or surpassing a whopping $20 billion in recent times to combat the prevalent Chinese threat.

China, on its part, fiercely opposes the delivery of arms from Washington to Taipei by referring to it as contradictory to the long-standing One China policy. However, with the Biden administration unrelenting, China’s Defense Ministry accused the United States of turning Taiwan into a powder keg when the US announced an aid package late last month.

At the time, the White House had announced $440 million in military equipment to Taiwan, which essentially included the sale of 30mm ammunition and related equipment, along with spare parts for Taiwan’s vehicles, small arms, combat weapon systems, and logistical support items.
The best strategy for China is to let all the money and weapons pour in, then do a regime change in Taiwan through political engineering.
 
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