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This guy sometimes flies off a bit
Turkish Space Programs
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This guy sometimes flies off a bit
Pax Ottomana
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I'm sorry but we can't have a serious space program until we're able to launch our satellites ourselves from a launchpad in Turkey. It should be one of our highest priority projects but unfortunately it doesn't appear to be so.
Come on Roketsan! Get your fvcking act together.
Come on Roketsan! Get your fvcking act together.
This was discussed without any information. I'm closely following how Japanese startup is doing a similar project and I see We can build such rocket within a couple years both economically and technologically. We could send Lagari satellite to LEO with such system. I can't underline the significance of such project by a priviate Turkish company.
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The future of Turkey’s satellite industry
Technological advancement is good for any country. But there are some technologies that set the countries that have them apart from those that don’t.
Nuclear weapons capability is one of these thingsç If you have a nuclear weapon then you belong to a different league.
The same can be said for satellites. If you have a satellite in orbit, you have a clear advantage over those countries that don’t. If you own a satellite, you have the advantage of better communication capabilities and military capabilities.
That is why for years Turkey has sought to own a satellite. We were all very happy when we witnessed the launch of our first satellite, Turksat 1B, back in 1994. We would have had a satellite even earlier if Turksat 1A had not fallen out of the skies due to a technical malfunction a few months before. Since then we have launched six satellites.
Over 70 countries currently own at least one payload out in space. Only 10 of them can make their own rockets to send the satellites out there, and the rest have had to buy rocket launchers.
Turkey is one of the 20 countries that can design its own satellites. In recent years we have managed to come a long way. For example, Turkey’s first high-resolution electro-optical satellite, GÖKTÜRK-2, was indigenously designed by the Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) and the TÜBİTAK space cooperation.
In addition to meeting the Turkish Armed Forces’ high resolution image requirements, GÖKTÜRK-2 is utilized for civilian activities such as control of forestland, tracking illegal construction, rapid assessment of damage after natural disasters, determination of agricultural boundaries and geographical data gathering. The project has also furnished the country’s industry with the capability of developing spacecraft in Turkey, including design, integration and environmental test infrastructure.
This is all great for Turkey, but Telkoder’s president Yusuf Ata Arıak says we are on the verge of making big mistakes. In our meeting, Arıak said the satellite industry has grown by 5.5 percent since 2015. The total industry amounts to $127 billion globally but in Turkey it is only $152 million. Arıak noted that 80 percent of that revenue belongs to one company alone, TURKSAT, and he claims that government is trying to block private companies from doing business in Turkey in favor of TURKSAT.
He said there is a need to sit down with government officials to discuss the issue. According to Arıak, the government is trying to pass a new law making it an obligation to have a land station in Turkish territory if you want to operate a satellite service in Turkey. Arıak believes such a law would hinder the industry, stating that Turkey must start closely cooperating with international governing bodies.
Arıak stresses that the Turkish satellite industry can only prosper if we foster a free market in the sector, and it is hard to disagree with him. Let’s see if government officials take note of his warnings.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/economy.aspx?pageID=606#panel-6
Technological advancement is good for any country. But there are some technologies that set the countries that have them apart from those that don’t.
Nuclear weapons capability is one of these thingsç If you have a nuclear weapon then you belong to a different league.
The same can be said for satellites. If you have a satellite in orbit, you have a clear advantage over those countries that don’t. If you own a satellite, you have the advantage of better communication capabilities and military capabilities.
That is why for years Turkey has sought to own a satellite. We were all very happy when we witnessed the launch of our first satellite, Turksat 1B, back in 1994. We would have had a satellite even earlier if Turksat 1A had not fallen out of the skies due to a technical malfunction a few months before. Since then we have launched six satellites.
Over 70 countries currently own at least one payload out in space. Only 10 of them can make their own rockets to send the satellites out there, and the rest have had to buy rocket launchers.
Turkey is one of the 20 countries that can design its own satellites. In recent years we have managed to come a long way. For example, Turkey’s first high-resolution electro-optical satellite, GÖKTÜRK-2, was indigenously designed by the Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) and the TÜBİTAK space cooperation.
In addition to meeting the Turkish Armed Forces’ high resolution image requirements, GÖKTÜRK-2 is utilized for civilian activities such as control of forestland, tracking illegal construction, rapid assessment of damage after natural disasters, determination of agricultural boundaries and geographical data gathering. The project has also furnished the country’s industry with the capability of developing spacecraft in Turkey, including design, integration and environmental test infrastructure.
This is all great for Turkey, but Telkoder’s president Yusuf Ata Arıak says we are on the verge of making big mistakes. In our meeting, Arıak said the satellite industry has grown by 5.5 percent since 2015. The total industry amounts to $127 billion globally but in Turkey it is only $152 million. Arıak noted that 80 percent of that revenue belongs to one company alone, TURKSAT, and he claims that government is trying to block private companies from doing business in Turkey in favor of TURKSAT.
He said there is a need to sit down with government officials to discuss the issue. According to Arıak, the government is trying to pass a new law making it an obligation to have a land station in Turkish territory if you want to operate a satellite service in Turkey. Arıak believes such a law would hinder the industry, stating that Turkey must start closely cooperating with international governing bodies.
Arıak stresses that the Turkish satellite industry can only prosper if we foster a free market in the sector, and it is hard to disagree with him. Let’s see if government officials take note of his warnings.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/economy.aspx?pageID=606#panel-6
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I rarely disagree with the private sector but in this case Mister Arıak is wrong.
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There's already a free market in Turkey. What Turkey is saying with the current regulations is that if you want to operate satellites in Turkey, you have to INVEST in Turkey. There's no such a thing as a free lunch. Foreign firms can easily partner up with local Turkish companies to start joint ventures and overcome such regulations, which is in place only to support the development of satellite/aerospace industry in Turkey.
I'm sorry but granting access to 100% foreign companies to Turkish satellites isn't good at all for the development of the industry in Turkey and on top of that it creates a serious national security issue. Anak (whoever he really is) and Zurriyet can kindly go put a sock in it.
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I'm sorry but we can't have a serious space program until we're able to launch our satellites ourselves from a launchpad in Turkey. It should be one of our highest priority projects but unfortunately it doesn't appear to be so.
Come on Roketsan! Get your fvcking act together.
Developing space launch vehicles takes so much time !!! And you don't have any long range ballistic missiles yet ...
(NOTE : That's Vega with Turkish flag!)
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Well thanks for stating the obvious there Sherlock. It's just an animation. No one claimed it was a genuine Turkish designed rocket.Developing space launch vehicles takes so much time !!! And you don't have any long range ballistic missiles yet ...
(NOTE : That's Vega with Turkish flag!)
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No reason to share that picture when you have these:
Wrong pictures can misguide people !
UFA is a liquid fuel design unlike VEGA ...
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Rendering of TAI's '1 ton' SGEO (SMALL GEOSTATIONARY SATELLITE) communication satellite.
Some details;
Satellite will be 1-2 tons, size and weight of the satellite would allow for multiple SGEO to be loaded onto a single space launch vehicle cutting down cost and operational availability. Reduced size and weight also allows for electric propulsion to be equipped. Planned number of transponders will be between 16 to 22. SGEO will serve civilian communication services as well as being compatible for military data use.
http://aa.com.tr/tr/bilim-teknoloji/tusastan-yeni-nesil-uydu-hamlesi/931493
Second stage of VEGA is liquid fuelled and uses a Ukrainian rocket engine.
Some details;
Satellite will be 1-2 tons, size and weight of the satellite would allow for multiple SGEO to be loaded onto a single space launch vehicle cutting down cost and operational availability. Reduced size and weight also allows for electric propulsion to be equipped. Planned number of transponders will be between 16 to 22. SGEO will serve civilian communication services as well as being compatible for military data use.
http://aa.com.tr/tr/bilim-teknoloji/tusastan-yeni-nesil-uydu-hamlesi/931493
No reason to share that picture when you have these:
Wrong pictures can misguide people !
UFA is a liquid fuel design unlike VEGA ...
Second stage of VEGA is liquid fuelled and uses a Ukrainian rocket engine.
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Gökmen Space Aviation and Training Center (GUHEM) construction continues.
http://aa.com.tr/tr/bilim-teknoloji...k-200-milyon-liralik-merkez-yukseliyor/940753
Astronot yetiştirecek 200 milyon liralık merkez yükseliyor
200 milyon liralık bütçesi ve modern mimarisiyle uzay ve havacılık alanında Türkiye'nin en önemli merkezi durumuna gelecek Gökmen Uzay Havacılık ve Eğitim Merkezi'nin inşaatı sürüyor.
Bursa Ticaret ve Sanayi Odası (BTSO) tarafından ''Gökmen Projesi'' kapsamında yapımına başlanan, Türkiye'nin ilk uzay temalı merkezinin inşaatı yükseliyor.
Bilim, Sanayi ve Teknoloji Bakanlığı, Türkiye Bilimsel ve Teknolojik Araştırma Kurumu (TÜBİTAK) ve Bursa Büyükşehir Belediyesinin destekleriyle 13 bin metrekare alanda yapımı devam eden Gökmen Uzay Havacılık ve Eğitim Merkezi (GUHEM), tamamlandığında Avrupa'da en iyi, dünyada ise ilk 5 havacılık ve uzay merkezinden birisi olacak.
Uzay ve havacılıkla ilgili eğitim amaçlı düzenek ve sergilerin yer alacağı GUHEM, 200 milyon liralık bütçesi ve modern mimarisiyle uzay ve havacılık alanında Türkiye'nin en önemli merkezi durumuna gelecek.
Merkezin bir yıl içinde tamamlanması planlanıyor
Yaklaşık 150 interaktif düzenek, havacılık öğrenme ve uzay inovasyon merkezi ile dikey rüzgar tüneli gibi birbirinden farklı uygulamaların yer alacağı GUHEM'in ilk katında modern uçuş simülatörleri yer alacak.
"Uzay katı" olarak adlandırılan ikinci katta ise atmosfer olayları, güneş sistemi, gezegenler ve galaksilere ilişkin bilgiler sunulacak. Bu kattaki yer çekimsiz alan ile merkeze gelen ziyaretçiler uzay ortamını tecrübe edebilecek.
Geçen ağustos ayında temeli atılan merkezin bir yıl içinde tamamlanması planlanıyor.
"Türkiye'nin ilk astronotunu Bursa'dan çıkarmayı hedefliyoruz"
BTSO Yönetim Kurulu Başkanı İbrahim Burkay, AA muhabirine yaptığı açıklamada, merkezin, ilk ve orta öğretim düzeyindeki gençlerin uzay ve havacılık konusundaki farkındalığını artıracağını söyledi.
Merkezde, sergi alanlarının yanı sıra çocukların ilgisini çekecek eğitim programlarının gerçekleşeceği atölye ve laboratuvarların da yer alacağını belirten Burkay, şunları kaydetti:
"Uzay havacılık sektörlerinde söz sahibi olan ülkeler kendi astronotlarını da yetiştiriyor. Artık yerli uydusunu üretme noktasına gelen ülkemizde uzay ve havacılık konusunda gençlerimizde daha fazla farkındalık oluşturmalıyız. Bu anlamda bizler de yeni neslin uzay ve havacılık alanında bilinçlenmesini ve yıllara yayılan bu çalışmalar sonucunda da Türkiye'nin ilk astronotunu Bursa'dan çıkarmayı hedefliyoruz."
http://aa.com.tr/tr/bilim-teknoloji...k-200-milyon-liralik-merkez-yukseliyor/940753
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200 Million TL is nothing. Rant, rant and rant
No reason to share that picture when you have these:
Wrong pictures can misguide people !
UFA is a liquid fuel design unlike VEGA ...
Yes liquid propellant missile can be controlled if some unexpected happens, solids not
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200 million TL astronaut training center?
I mean, I applaud the idea and the effort. But aren't we getting too ahead of ourselves here? We haven't launched a single satellite to space yet. I feel the money would've been better invested in speeding up the Uydu Firlatma Sistemi / National Rocket Launchpad Center project.
I mean, I applaud the idea and the effort. But aren't we getting too ahead of ourselves here? We haven't launched a single satellite to space yet. I feel the money would've been better invested in speeding up the Uydu Firlatma Sistemi / National Rocket Launchpad Center project.
