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With whom does Turkey hope to fight a war? Does she regard any country her foe? Are there any COIN commitments within Turkey? PKK? I want to understand where the Altay will be useful (country/terrain). In any case I don't know if heavy tanks are effective in the mountainous regions where insurgents operate.
 
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When are we gona give Turkey a big contract to bring some improvement in our situational awareness initiatives ? Its long over due we should award Turkey 1-2 billion dollar contract to develop that side of Army
 
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Altay MBT is 60 Tonnes... and they call Arjun MBT over weight!!!

Just thinking out loud.. now back to the topic.

Way to Go turkey.. Altay sure looks like a beast :cheers:
 
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Altay MBT is 60 Tonnes... and they call Arjun MBT over weight!!!

Just thinking out loud.. now back to the topic.

Way to Go turkey.. Altay sure looks like a beast :cheers:

Turkey doesn't calls Arjun over weight, its your own Indians who call it over weight as per the performance parameter set in the start of the project. Altay has a target weight parameter as 60 Tons, if it crosses this figure then you can call it a fat or over weight tank, but if it meets its parameter, then it isn't, as 60 Ton tank is Turkish requirement.
 
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With whom does Turkey hope to fight a war? Does she regard any country her foe? Are there any COIN commitments within Turkey? PKK? I want to understand where the Altay will be useful (country/terrain). In any case I don't know if heavy tanks are effective in the mountainous regions where insurgents operate.

Likely threats
Greek Leo 2A6 and 2A4 in West
Armenian T series obsolete Tanks
Russian T series Tanks
Iraki M1A2(Necessity of conditions)
Iran Tanks(Necessity of Conditions)


Now a days, Turkey has 350 Leo 2A4, 170 Leo-1T Volkan, 170 M-60T Sabra Tanks that We can call modern and thousands of M-48 and 60 junks...

At first period, 250 Altay will be produced and This number will be increased up to 1000 Altay...
 
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Altay MBT is 60 Tonnes... and they call Arjun MBT over weight!!!

Just thinking out loud.. now back to the topic.

Way to Go turkey.. Altay sure looks like a beast :cheers:


As Nutuk implied one of another forum that After hundreds of modernization and domestic defence programs, You are going to see that The strategy of Turkish army will be chanced.. I mean Turkish army will be a striker army along with many defencive abilities.

The armoured accomodation in battlefield will be following;
-First Line: 60-65 tonnes Altay MBT
-Second line: 35 Tonnes FNSS AIFV
-Third Line:18 tonnes Akinci APC
 
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With whom does Turkey hope to fight a war? Does she regard any country her foe? Are there any COIN commitments within Turkey? PKK? I want to understand where the Altay will be useful (country/terrain). In any case I don't know if heavy tanks are effective in the mountainous regions where insurgents operate.

From what i have seen we have always used upgraded M-60s in operations against the PKK. That along with Cobras, Akreps,BTR60PB (Gendermarie). I think this is for a country defense role like the M60T and the Leopard 1/2A4. We don't have the best relations towards certain countries but no foe or anything. We do have a arms race with Greece though :P
 
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With whom does Turkey hope to fight a war? Does she regard any country her foe? Are there any COIN commitments within Turkey? PKK? I want to understand where the Altay will be useful (country/terrain). In any case I don't know if heavy tanks are effective in the mountainous regions where insurgents operate.

Got Iraq downsouth, has bones with Greece.
 
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Turkey's Otokar has unveiled a new 6x6 wheeled armoured vehicle

Turkey's Otokar has unveiled a new 6x6 wheeled armoured vehicle to contest a local competition.

The vehicle, known as Arma, was developed to target the Turkish Land Forces' Special Purpose Tactical Wheeled Armoured Vehicle (Ozel Maksatli Taktik Tekerlekli Zirhli Arac, OMTTZA) project. It is competing against two other vehicles in the shape of FNSS Defence Systems' Pars and HEMA Endustri's Anafarta, a variant of Patria's 6x6 Armoured Modular Vehicle (AMV).

The 6.428 m long, 2.708 m wide and 2.223 m high Arma has an 18,500 kg gross weight and a payload of 4,500 kg and carries a driver, commander and eight dismounts in its fully nuclear-, biological-, chemical- (NBC-) protected hull.

No details have been released on its ballistic protection, but since it is required to be amphibious, armouring is not expected to exceed STANAG 4569 Level II, but its relatively high 425 mm ground clearance should help achieve mine protection to Level IIIB or higher.

Mobility tests with prototypes to date have included around 10,000 km of running over varied terrain. Arma's front two axles are steerable enabling it to make a turning radius of 7.85 m and the vehicle rides on independent hydropneumatic suspension, offering respectable off-road mobility and comfort. It can negotiate a 45-degree approach and departure angles leading onto 60 per cent inclines and 30 per cent side-slopes. It can also cross 1.2 m-wide trenches and climb over 60 cm obstacles.

A 450 hp water-cooled turbo diesel capable of running on F-34 or F-54 fuel drives the wheels through an automatic gearbox and single-speed transfer box, giving it a top speed of 105 km/h and a power/weight ratio of 24.3 hp/tonne.

This also powers the onboard 24 V DC electrical system, which incorporates two maintenance-free 125 Ah batteries and a 3.3 kW converter.

Turkish Land Forces are expected to make a selection for its OMTTZA requirement by mid-2010 and subsequently procure 336 vehicles in a variety of versions: 30 for NBC reconnaissance, 36 radar carriers, 108 sensor carriers, 39 command vehicles and 108 fire-support vehicles, which could be armed with a manually operated 20 mm cannon.

Otokar is developing an 8x8 variant of Arma, which should be unveiled in the second half of 2010. The company was previously party to the development and construction of the 8x8 Yavuz version of the Singaporean Terrex 8x8 infantry carrier vehicle.


Otokar ARMA

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I think we should go with whatever Otokar decides to produce in the armored vehicle department. The more support we give them the better. They have alot of experience.
 
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