Turkey lashes out at Swedish FM, Austria over ‘defamation’

[CrimsonFury]

Did a Turkish man stole your girlfriend ?


Chinese bot.

I think his mother had an affair with a dude from East Turkestan

 

[-SINAN-]

I think his mother had an affair with a dude from East Turkestan

That's a good probability too.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ar...ourt.aspx?pageID=238&nID=102899&NewsCatID=509

For all brain dead retards out there in the world (including the stupid bitch who is supposed to be the FM of Sweden):


"An article on sexual abuse actions committed against children under the age of 15 has been annulled on technical legal grounds, Turkey’s Constitutional Court said in a statement released on Aug. 15.

“The decision for the annulment of the Constitutional Court did not imply a categorical decriminalization of the sexual abuse actions committed against young children under 15 years of age,” the statement read, adding that the need to issue the press release had arisen since “it was observed that some foreign media organs made intentional news by distorting” the decision of the Constitutional Court dated May 26, 2016, “in seeking to defame the country.”

“Despite the allegations, sexual abuse actions committed against young children aged under 15 years were not decriminalized with the aforementioned decision,” adding that the rule was annulled on technical legal grounds,” it read.

The Constitutional Court announced the decision that the provision for an annulment be put into effect after six months from the date in which it is published in the Official Gazette.

“Thus, it was decided that the provision for the annulment be put into effect after six months from the date when it is published in the Official Gazette so that a legal gap does not occur as a consequence of the annulment,” it said.

“Sexual abuse actions against children will not be decriminalized and will not go unpunished, and the legislative body will be provided the opportunity to make a new regulation within the scope set out in the grounds,” it said, adding that six-month period in question went into effect on July 13.

Noting that sexual abuse committed against children under the age of 15 continued to be criminal acts, the Constitutional Court said it had been “provided the opportunity to make a new regulation addressing some technical problems stated in the annulment decision within the prescribed period.”

Also on Aug. 15, Justice Minister Bekir Bozdağ shared a lengthy tweet discussing the much-criticized ruling, as foreign officials’ criticism of the ruling has led to tension among Turkey, Austria and Sweden.

In his tweet, Bozdağ said that with its decision, Turkey’s top court changed the first and second sentences of the related law’s first article, which used to identify all sexual intercourse of those under the age of 15 as sexual abuse.

Bozdağ said the ruling changed this by removing the phrase “those who have not completed” the age of 15, which means that not all sexual acts committed by those people would be considered abuse."

August/16/2016

What I read from this is that previously sex with a kid (below 15) used to be illegal.
The new law will make it illegal to sexually abuse a kid.
Correct me, if I am wrong...

For adults consent means no sex.
So if You give a 12 year old $500 if she consents to sex,
will it be a crime or not?
If You manage to take a naked picture of the girl in the shower
and then threatens to publish the picture, if no sex?

What sex will not be sexual abuse?

Unless those questions have good answers, the issue remains hot.

 

[-SINAN-]

What I read from this is that previously sex with a kid (below 15) used to be illegal.
The new law will make it illegal to sexually abuse a kid.
Correct me, if I am wrong...

For adults consent means no sex.
So if You give a 12 year old $500 if she consents to sex,
will it be a crime or not?
If You manage to take a naked picture of the girl in the shower
and then threatens to publish the picture, if no sex?

What sex will not be sexual abuse?

Unless those questions have good answers, the issue remains hot.

I don't know the what's the issue....

Lastly, they gave a guy whom sexually abused kids, 508 years of imprisonment and today court added 80 years additionally. Totalling 588 years.

http://www.milliyet.com.tr/karaman-da-cinsel-istismar--gundem-2295271/

Constitutional Court gave a statement today;

They say cancellation of the article 103. doesn't even implies that abuse of the children is going to be left unpunished.

They say before the decision all sexual crimes against the children (below 15) accepted as same and it was against the "principle of proportion".

The sexual crimes against the children that below 15 will be categorized.

Also they add, decision has been given in 13 July 2016 and will take place 6 months later. During this period old article is still in place. And new arrangements will be done during this 6 months.

http://www.bursahakimiyet.com.tr/haber/aymden-cocugun-cinsel-istismari-aciklamasi-149517.html

Are we clear ?

 

[CrimsonFury]

I don't know the what's the issue....

Lastly, they gave a guy whom sexually abused kids, 508 years of imprisonment and today court added 80 years additionally. Totalling 588 years.

http://www.milliyet.com.tr/karaman-da-cinsel-istismar--gundem-2295271/

Constitutional Court gave a statement today;

They say cancellation of the article 103. doesn't even implies that abuse of the children is going to be left unpunished.

They say before the decision all sexual crimes against the children (below 15) accepted as same and it was against the "principle of proportion".

The sexual crimes against the children that below 15 will be categorized.

Also they add, decision has been given in 13 July 2016 and will take place 6 months later. During this period old article is still in place. And new arrangements will be done during this 6 months.

http://www.bursahakimiyet.com.tr/haber/aymden-cocugun-cinsel-istismari-aciklamasi-149517.html

Are we clear ?

Dinlemek istemiyorlarki amina kodugumun evlatlari. Oysa kendi kizlari 13 yasinda basliyor...

 

[-SINAN-]

Dinlemek istemiyorlarki amina kodugumun evlatlari. Oysa kendi kizlari 13 yasinda basliyor...

Look at what stupid woman says

""Çocukların korunmasını zayıflatmayacığını umduğumuz, Türkiye’nin de gözden geçirdiği, yasal prosedürün nasıl olması gerektiğinin tartışılmaya başlamasını sevinçle karşıladım. Şimdi bu Türkiye’de de bir çok kuruluş tarafından etraflıca tartışılıyor. Bu nedenle bence bu iyi oldu."

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/...Turkiye_ye_rest__Sozlerimin_arkasindayim.html

After the statement of court, instead of admitting her fault....she implies that court is re-arranging the laws because of her tweet......unbelievable.

Show us that protection for 12 year old children will not be worse due to this development,
and I am sure You will get an apology.

 

[CrimsonFury]

Look at what stupid woman says

""Çocukların korunmasını zayıflatmayacığını umduğumuz, Türkiye’nin de gözden geçirdiği, yasal prosedürün nasıl olması gerektiğinin tartışılmaya başlamasını sevinçle karşıladım. Şimdi bu Türkiye’de de bir çok kuruluş tarafından etraflıca tartışılıyor. Bu nedenle bence bu iyi oldu."

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/haber/...Turkiye_ye_rest__Sozlerimin_arkasindayim.html

After the statement of court, instead of admitting her fault....she implies that court is re-arranging the laws because of her tweet......unbelievable.

Kesin feminist bir karidir bu. Hem suclu hem guclu. Neyse boyle suratlarina tukurmeye devam, anca o zaman adam olacaklar, ya seve seve ya da s..........

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

I don't know the what's the issue....

Lastly, they gave a guy whom sexually abused kids, 508 years of imprisonment and today court added 80 years additionally. Totalling 588 years.

http://www.milliyet.com.tr/karaman-da-cinsel-istismar--gundem-2295271/

Constitutional Court gave a statement today;

They say cancellation of the article 103. doesn't even implies that abuse of the children is going to be left unpunished.

They say before the decision all sexual crimes against the children (below 15) accepted as same and it was against the "principle of proportion".

The sexual crimes against the children that below 15 will be categorized.

Also they add, decision has been given in 13 July 2016 and will take place 6 months later. During this period old article is still in place. And new arrangements will be done during this 6 months.

http://www.bursahakimiyet.com.tr/haber/aymden-cocugun-cinsel-istismari-aciklamasi-149517.html

Are we clear ?

The issues is sexual abuse.
I might be wrong, but if a the 12 year old girl gives consent to sex with a 60 year old guy,
then it is considered sex under the proposed change, but not sexual abuse...

 

[-SINAN-]

The issues is sexual abuse.
I might be wrong, but if a the 12 year old girl gives consent to sex with a 60 year old guy,
then it is considered sex under the proposed change, but not sexual abuse...

You are making guesses about Turkish penal code with out having knowledge about the Turkish penal code.

And issue is here Sweden making baseless accusations on my country....and not even apologizing after being corrected.

And to add more is it even logical to think that sex with children will be legalized under the constitution.... which country on the earth that is legal ?

http://www.atamer.av.tr/cocugun-cinsel-istismari-sucu/

Gonna translate it later.

12 year old girl gives consent

12 year old girl can't give consent.....

 

[TurkeyForever]

Kesin feminist bir karidir bu. Hem suclu hem guclu. Neyse boyle suratlarina tukurmeye devam, anca o zaman adam olacaklar, ya seve seve ya da s..........

Yok ya, bu kadina zaten hayati boyunca 500+ salatalik girmistir, kesin hastalik vardir ve kötu balik gibi kokuyordur. EEWWW

 

[T-Rex]

Everything is freedom of speech in the west, even being racist towards other religions such as muslims.

But if you say anything about "skin color" they say NO NO NO.

So they use the word "muslim" instead of the word "dark skinned", it's like a word game, they are so smart we don't get what they are doing.

If you dance to their dirty tune you are 'secular', this is what secularism is all about in the Muslim states, it has nothing to do with protecting the legitimate rights of minorities or other individuals, it's all about slandering and defaming Muslim governments who really want to protect the legitimate interest of a Muslim state. This is why I call it suckularsim, it's a dirty weapon used against Muslim states either to break them or to turn them into puppet states like Egypt and BD.

 

[The SC]

What I read from this is that previously sex with a kid (below 15) used to be illegal.
The new law will make it illegal to sexually abuse a kid.
Correct me, if I am wrong...

For adults consent means no sex.
So if You give a 12 year old $500 if she consents to sex,
will it be a crime or not?
If You manage to take a naked picture of the girl in the shower
and then threatens to publish the picture, if no sex?

What sex will not be sexual abuse?

Unless those questions have good answers, the issue remains hot.

Is that what happens in Sweden? Otherwise how can you imagine that?

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

You are making guesses about Turkish penal code with out having knowledge about the Turkish penal code.

And issue is here Sweden making baseless accusations on my country....and not even apologizing after being corrected.

And to add more is it even logical to think that sex with children will be legalized under the constitution.... which country on the earth that is legal ?

http://www.atamer.av.tr/cocugun-cinsel-istismari-sucu/

Gonna translate it later.


12 year old girl can't give consent.....

I have asked for clarification, multiple times,
and if none of You can give a unambigious explanation, why complain?

According to the convention on childrens rights, children cannot give consent.
It also say that sex with children, regardless of what they want is Statutory rape.

Let me rephrase the question.
After the proposed change, when will laws on Statutory Rape always come into effect?
12. 15, 18 years, or what?

Mexico allows sex from 12 Years and onwards.

 

[-SINAN-]

I have asked for clarification, multiple times,
and if none of You can give a unambigious explanation, why complain?

Constitutional Court gave a statement today;

They say cancellation of the article 103. doesn't even implies that abuse of the children is going to be left unpunished.

They say before the decision all sexual crimes against the children (below 15) accepted as same and it was against the "principle of proportion".

The sexual crimes against the children that below 15 will be categorized.

Also they add, decision has been given in 13 July 2016 and will take place 6 months later. During this period old article is still in place. And new arrangements will be done during this 6 months.

http://www.bursahakimiyet.com.tr/haber/aymden-cocugun-cinsel-istismari-aciklamasi-149517.html

According to the convention on childrens rights, children cannot give consent.
It also say that sex with children, regardless of what they want is Statutory rape.

Let me rephrase the question.
After the proposed change, when will laws on Statutory Rape always come into effect?
12. 15, 18 years, or what?

Mexico allows sex from 12 Years and onwards.

Hımm, Okay.

TCK 103.

Abuse of the children comes to effect in these circumstances.
1-) Any sexual act against children below the age of 15.
2-) Children that are above 15 years old but did not fully developed mentally.
3-) Any sexual act against the children that are above 15 years old and mentally fully developed by force, threat, trick, and with any kind of act that binds the will.

İs and is going to be considered as sexual abuse of the children.

If an 15 years old have consent, then it's not sexual abuse of the children but "sex with a minor" which has a different punishment.

If you have anymore questions, i will gladly answer as i fully understood the situation.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Hımm, Okay.

TCK 103.

Abuse of the children comes to effect in these circumstances.
1-) Any sexual act against children below the age of 15.
2-) Children that are above 15 years old but did not fully developed mentally.
3-) Any sexual act against the children that are above 15 years old and mentally fully developed by force, threat, trick, and with any kind of act that binds the will.

İs and is going to be considered as sexual abuse of the children.

If an 15 years old have consent, then it's not sexual abuse of the children but "sex with a minor" which has a different punishment.

If you have anymore questions, i will gladly answer as i fully understood the situation.

If that is true, then I dont see any reason for alarm.